Epstein Files Megathread

[Beyond Everything]

Funnily enough, a friend of mine knows (and is not a fan of) someone who appears in the Epstein files. I won't say which person, but they are in here-

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[MorganBlack]

LOL. This was posted 12 hours ago.
I usually avoid this stuff - too much black abyss gazing - but I know the feeling...

 

[Seimulluh]

Seems like Marina Abramovic is connected to everyone and everything. Lot of accusations regarding satanic rituals and so on. I wonder if its related to some actual current or is it just art...

 

[Morell]

The more I hear about those files, child misuse, cannibalism, the more I'm reminded of the story Skeletons of the Gods.

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[Kepler]

Not that all nations don't have citizens involved, but specifically due to their wealth, status and regular participation US citizens are infamous for child sex tourism, according to anecdotes and academic study. It's not too much of a wonder that the problem would be systemic, that they'd elect and protect a pedophile and that many of their government institutions, security and media would try to avoid, obfuscate, and cover it up.
That's it's being uncovered and revealed to be something larger than Watergate is a sign that the forces involved with insulating and protecting the Epstein class are faltering.

 

[MorganBlack]

Hey!! We just have a lot of people.

Once you adjust for population the individual likelihood of an American being an sex offender is statistically lower from a smaller, high-density source like Australia or Germany.

I asked Gemini to crutch the numbers:

When adjusted for population (per capita), the United States often drops out of the "top" spot, replaced by European and Asian nations with higher densities of travelers per 100,000 citizens.

According to the most recent data on arrests, deportations, and traveler surveys, the highest per-capita "offender-source" countries are:

Rank Country
Primary Travel Ease Factor
Per Capita Context

1 Germany
High density of "charter" tourists to Africa/Asia.
Highest volume in Europe relative to size.

2 Japan
Geographic proximity to SE Asian hubs.
High "salaryman" tourism culture.

3 Australia
Short-haul access to Indonesia/Thailand.
High arrest rates per 100k travelers.

4 United Kingdom
-High mobility and historical colonial links.
Significant "repeat offender" data.

5 France
Proximity to North and West Africa.
High rates of domestic legal prosecutions.

6 United States
Massive volume, though per-capita is lower.
Dominates the Caribbean/Mexico market.

7 South Korea
Rapidly growing intra-regional travel.
High rates of technology-facilitated tourism.

8 Netherlands
High historical involvement in Thailand.
Strong legislative focus on "outbound" crime.

9 Sweden
High awareness but high per-capita reporting.
Focus on "Nordic Model" spillover.

10 Canada
Easy access to Central/South America.
Significant "seasonal" offend

 

[Seimulluh]

Hey!! We just have a lot of people.

Once you adjust for population the individual likelihood of an American being an sex offender is statistically lower from a smaller, high-density source like Australia or Germany.

I asked Gemini to crutch the numbers:

When adjusted for population (per capita), the United States often drops out of the "top" spot, replaced by European and Asian nations with higher densities of travelers per 100,000 citizens.

According to the most recent data on arrests, deportations, and traveler surveys, the highest per-capita "offender-source" countries are:

Rank Country
Primary Travel Ease Factor
Per Capita Context

1 Germany
High density of "charter" tourists to Africa/Asia.
Highest volume in Europe relative to size.

2 Japan
Geographic proximity to SE Asian hubs.
High "salaryman" tourism culture.

3 Australia
Short-haul access to Indonesia/Thailand.
High arrest rates per 100k travelers.

4 United Kingdom
-High mobility and historical colonial links.
Significant "repeat offender" data.

5 France
Proximity to North and West Africa.
High rates of domestic legal prosecutions.

6 United States
Massive volume, though per-capita is lower.
Dominates the Caribbean/Mexico market.

7 South Korea
Rapidly growing intra-regional travel.
High rates of technology-facilitated tourism.

8 Netherlands
High historical involvement in Thailand.
Strong legislative focus on "outbound" crime.

9 Sweden
High awareness but high per-capita reporting.
Focus on "Nordic Model" spillover.

10 Canada
Easy access to Central/South America.
Significant "seasonal" offend

And if you prompt differently you will get the actual correct countries like Afghanistan on the top of the list...Based on your list also why wouldnt everybody want to live in Africa, seems like safe place, maybe somalia?!

 

[Morell]

Hey!! We just have a lot of people.

Once you adjust for population the individual likelihood of an American being an sex offender is statistically lower from a smaller, high-density source like Australia or Germany.

I asked Gemini to crutch the numbers:

When adjusted for population (per capita), the United States often drops out of the "top" spot, replaced by European and Asian nations with higher densities of travelers per 100,000 citizens.

According to the most recent data on arrests, deportations, and traveler surveys, the highest per-capita "offender-source" countries are:

Rank Country
Primary Travel Ease Factor
Per Capita Context

1 Germany
High density of "charter" tourists to Africa/Asia.
Highest volume in Europe relative to size.

2 Japan
Geographic proximity to SE Asian hubs.
High "salaryman" tourism culture.

3 Australia
Short-haul access to Indonesia/Thailand.
High arrest rates per 100k travelers.

4 United Kingdom
-High mobility and historical colonial links.
Significant "repeat offender" data.

5 France
Proximity to North and West Africa.
High rates of domestic legal prosecutions.

6 United States
Massive volume, though per-capita is lower.
Dominates the Caribbean/Mexico market.

7 South Korea
Rapidly growing intra-regional travel.
High rates of technology-facilitated tourism.

8 Netherlands
High historical involvement in Thailand.
Strong legislative focus on "outbound" crime.

9 Sweden
High awareness but high per-capita reporting.
Focus on "Nordic Model" spillover.

10 Canada
Easy access to Central/South America.
Significant "seasonal" offend

You do realize that Gemini is not capable of doing any statistics...

 

[MorganBlack]

You guys German, huh? Math and basic research is one thing Gemini can do very well, unlike the person above.

 

[Ohana]

No even if these are true and the point per capitia is average in America the files reveal something.

Despite Americans in power claiming to care about people they don't. Even if someone in charge isn't on the list they were in power and might have been able to see what was going on and did nothing.

They did nothing to protect themselves. In a country thats has a lot of individualism do you really think they were trying to protect them? Or themselves?

They just didn't care. Some of them must have heard what was going on and did nothing. I've lived here and that tracks. This is worse.

They just don't care. Breathing in. Isolating. Individual. Power.

Have to interact with the material world one day. Can't close your eyes and pretend to care forever.

These files are a travesty not just because what is in them but because of what it say. Do you know how people get where they are? They know a lot of people. A lot of people had to have known about this and did nothing.

Just to save face because its easy to say nothing to protect yourself. Its easy to do nothing. Its easy to close your eyes and say hey I'm not the one doing that and if I whistle blow it'll come back to get me. Thats all that happened I bet. There was no loyalty I bet besides in money and influence.

And they really just didn't care about the lives ruined. This is the extreme version of a culture that doesn't care. It might get worse too. I think people should start caring a bit more about the world in front of them than shutting their eyes.

Because honestly if enough people keep shutting their eyes then something worse than these files can happen. Believe me. There is worse. There's always worse.

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Because honestly if enough people keep shutting their eyes then something worse than these files can happen. Believe me. There is worse. There's always worse.

What do people think caused the great depression? The dust bowl didn't help but the government could have cared. For ten years it could have done something.

It did nothing and watched people starve. Kids, parents, friends. Unemployment was so low and the American government just did nothing for years on end. People starve in that time.

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Lives were lost from that like lives were lost in these files and people traumatized. Now people affected have to pay for therapy. Pay for a lot of therapy pay for high quality therapy.

And I haven't checked with the news has any money been offered to the victims to help pay for all that? Any at all. I hope so. And if not right now I hope eventually.

 

[MorganBlack]

I think we all can agree that Money and Power must be interrogated. However, to over-focus on the American oligarchy while running interference for your own aristocrats is just more tribalism. They all need to be investigated, on all sides, in all countries. A pox on all their houses.

Lest we forget Norway’s Prince Rapey Draco Malfoy and his psychopathic hover-mom:

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Or... France’s former culture minister resigns over Epstein-linked tax fraud investigation

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And the Epstein files caused quite a panic in the ranks of the UK's corrupt political establishment, prompting the one of their overlords, Lord Peter Mandelson, to resign from the Labour Party and the House of Lords.

The mounting Epstein collateral damage

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[Ohana]

I think we all can agree that Money and Power must be interrogated. However, to over-focus on the American oligarchy while running interference for your own aristocrats is just more tribalism. They all need to be investigated, on all sides, in all countries. A pox on all their houses.

Lest we forget Norway’s Prince Rapey Draco Malfoy and his psychopathic hover-mom:

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Or... France’s former culture minister resigns over Epstein-linked tax fraud investigation

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And the Epstein files caused quite a panic in the ranks of the UK's corrupt political establishment, prompting the one of their overlords, Lord Peter Mandelson, to resign from the Labour Party and the House of Lords.

The mounting Epstein collateral damage

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Yeah they should but America is unique in that it had a lot of international power over culture. This is a generalization but America has a culture of individualism over community.

America has taken this to an extreme. I think people need less individualism at this point. The not caring about the world and shutting off to it. The apathy.

Also America has been impervious to criticism for so long. America is another country. Its not immune to criticism. I know the amount of criticism seems like a lot right now but this is just a backlog of it because people have not been able to criticize it for a long time.

America was called the new world for so long. It was called the land of opportunity. America has had nothing but good press until recently. Yes other countries should be scrutinized too but I think the American ideal of hope and perfectionism should be stopped.

Its not a perfect country. Its lagging behind educationally. It could use some improvements and the individualism of not caring about others here. It might have lead to these human rights violations.

Here's my guess to how this conspiracy actually happened. People worked for rich people with a lot of money and that money lead to not a lot of questions asked. Instead of thinking about the people's lives that were affected they were blinded by a sad check of money.

And isn't that sad. Money should be helping people. People shouldn't be helping money and becoming blind to the grevious harm caused by ignoring this.

This went too far. Way too far and to some I'm probably understating this and I probably am. I probably can never accurately describe in words how not okay and how too far it got. Its was inhumane

 

[MorganBlack]

I get where you're coming from, but 'America' being used as symbolic proxy for all the corrupt wealthy elites in all countries is also taking your eye off the ball.

(Yes, I hope they're all investigated and prosecuted, but I'm not holding my breath.)

But Epstein is a symptom of a much bigger issue... and yes, many are Americans, particularly in our tech industry, which is just a cut-out for military intelligence and the CIA. The issues ahead of us are from the likes of Peter Thiel, Epstein alum Bill Gates, Musk, as well as the fiscal banking system trying to replace currency with a digital control grid.

Whitney Webb on the upcoming digital control grid . (below) She's one of the legit good guys, even if a little more conspiratorial than I.
Webb argues that the goal is to move the world onto programmable, surveillable money by making existing currencies worthless through destabilization.

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While everyone is focused on legitimate horrible rapists and pedophiles , it sounds like Argentina will be their smoke test. If that works expect everyone's currencies to go away... the EU only has one to do away with already.

 

[Beyond Everything]

All the mongoloid-ish Trump-worshipping Qanon yokels are conspicuously silent now that the real pizzagate is revealed- or at least slightly peeled back as Trump's people strenuously put the brakes on.

 

[MorganBlack]

Right! It's is all partisan gamesmanship for them rather than principles.

 

[Kepler]

Norway appears to be laying charges.
Unlike the American judiciary which publishes the identities of the victims and hides the perpetrators.
Attacks those trying to prosecute.

The DOW was over 50000 and whatabout...

Too big to face charges

Typical American avoidance techniques for not taking responsibility. Obfuscate, try to change the subject with fear/rage bait, point fingers and whatabout. Any concern about perps facing charges is only mentioned in passing as a lesser concern after defending the illusion of American ethical rep with strawman arguments that no one has made.

 

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[rin_]

Norway appears to be laying charges.
Unlike the American judiciary which publishes the identities of the victims and hides the perpetrators.
Attacks those trying to prosecute.

The DOW was over 50000 and whatabout...

Too big to face charges

Typical American avoidance techniques for not taking responsibility. Obfuscate, try to change the subject with fear/rage bait, point fingers and whatabout. Any concern about perps facing charges is only mentioned in passing as a lesser concern after defending the illusion of American ethical rep with strawman arguments that no one has made.

America has (and has had) many good qualities, but there are plenty of bad ones. Well said