Occult wars

[rodtigo]

Hey everyone, I’m bringing up this topic to ask something: I was watching some YouTube channels about World War II and occultism in general. I’d like to learn more about it. Do you think that, for example, in current wars there could also be some kind of “magical war” happening behind the scenes?

 

[Morell]

There wasn't any real occult war during WW2, there is none now.

There are and were people fascinated by occult, they were among Nazi, there are now. Some like very loud USA Christians are still fascinated by magic and occult. (so they have something to fight against)

 

[AbammonTheGreat]

There are always occultists involved in wars. As occultists are in every part of society. Now if you're asking if world leaders are waging wars for magical purposes? This is highly unlikely, even if they are exposed to occultists in their circles or are occultists themselves.

 

[rodtigo]

There are always occultists involved in wars. As occultists are in every part of society. Now if you're asking if world leaders are waging wars for magical purposes? This is highly unlikely, even if they are exposed to occultists in their circles or are occultists themselves.

Thank you very much for the answer. I’m sad to see how things are going for the sake of power. I believe there is magic involved, but, as you said, not directly — rather, it’s more of a war for oil and power in the world

There wasn't any real occult war during WW2, there is none now.

There are and were people fascinated by occult, they were among Nazi, there are now. Some like very loud USA Christians are still fascinated by magic and occult. (so they have something to fight against)

I believe that too​

 

[Morell]

Just to note, since you bring up combo of occult and wars, the occult rituals sent in fight tend to be ineffective. Crowley's attempt to defeat a group of occultists using magic failed miserably.

 

[Robert Ramsay]

There wasn't any real occult war during WW2, there is none now.

Although Gerald Gardner and his coven had a go at Hitler...

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[Morell]

Although Gerald Gardner and his coven had a go at Hitler...

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Didn't hear about that one! Was he effective?

 

[Robert Ramsay]

The article says that after the ritual, Hitler shelved his plans to invade Britain and took on the Soviet Union instead which was a very stupid idea...

 

[nutmeg]

There is an entire country in the middle east whose religion is basically perverse occult practices, very successful in wars too.

 

[hollowglasd]

Which country is it?

 

[𝕳𝖊𝖑𝖑𝖋𝖎𝖗𝖊]

Some satanic nazis where involved in the Maidan revolution. That revolution turned into a civil war, which became the Russo Ukrainian war when Russia invaded. I'm pretty sure Azov Battalion, Right Sector and Misanthropic Division had atleast some satanists in them. The band M8l8th are satanic nazis. I remember watching war footage early in the invasion where Russians found an abandoned Demonolatry Idol on a table in the backyard of a house the captured. A Youtuber called kineslayer said some niners enlist on the Ukrainian side as an insight role.

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Which country is it?

Israel

 

[Kepler]

Like that of Ra against Apep being a metaphor of civilization/order and barbarism/chaos living out in a cave allegory.

Rituals for that have been adapted recently by individuals aiming for the secular standards of Ma'at along with their nation. Adapted to the spells from lines with Two Lands, an Upper and Lower in deft hands. Originality for immediate complexity.

Going back a couple years

In Feb 2022 during the religious covid protests I began rapid magick response with various types of illumination to help mitigate their chaos and disperse it by the end of the Olympics(zealots completely dispersed the day after).
My work involved unconventional things like completely decoupling my magick from Tropical astrology to reset my spiritual links to an on date ecliptic, and weaponizing a celestial entity with a constellation that was previously binding it.
Fun things like energy from all the protest horns sounding for days was redirected to this spiritual release announcement.
To condense explaining some pathworking it would sound as scififantasy. For example, debris for invention from the astral battle of Arcturus was claimed by a civilization under immediate threat of war after the Olympics.

Synchronous timing with the breaking of the killing stone of Tamamo-no-Mae taken as an omen of success with the survival of the threatened nation after the initial onslaught of barbarian invasion.

There's tons going on, easily lots more than Magical Battle of Britain.

 

[supremecoyote]

Himmler was an occultist, Hitler didn't particularly care for it from my understanding. But there was real occult initiatives amongst the nazis as Himmler and the Thule society were interested in resurrecting Atlantis.

Crowley and Gardner were both involved in ww2 on the side of Britain.

WW3 though ? Other than the Trump's ambitions of starting a holy war on behalf of Israel and green lighting Armageddon. And my suspicion of fanatical christian elder abuse of Trump by the hands of christian leaders surrounding him. WW3 strikes me as very a mundane situation, until new information tells us otherwise. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a lot of cursing going back and forth behind the scenes between warring countries, but that's neither here nor there.

 

[Jadugar]

You'll probably find more solid examples by looking at history, like priests melting wax ships to destroy enemy fleets via image magic, people creating horoscopes of a king to plain their death, or seers advising leaders before wars. I suppose the sinuous, secret ways magic takes gives it no room in the modern world where you can launch missiles with a push of a button, a far more stable ritual than pricking dolls. Anyone high level enough to be calling shots is enmeshed in a political machine that can easily carry out its functions posthumously, or make it inefficient to rely on addling their brains because of the vast bodies that guide every action.

Well, usually, anyway. Back when a single broadcast of Fox and Friends couldn't radically determine a president's executive actions.

It's interesting to think of a world that's outpaced magic. In most every other sector, being a learned magician can still derive some benefit, but it's hard to figure where sorcery could fit in the context of modern warfare. I wonder if one day there won't be any magicians left at all.

 

[Nagaram]

Back when a single broadcast of Fox and Friends couldn't radically determine a president's executive actions.

Functionally, whats the difference between melting wax boats for an outcome and goading a president at the same hour every day into changing the course of geopolitics? Just because the ritual is different doesn't mean it's not magick. Just that it's really dumb how easily this works.

 

[Jadugar]

Functionally, whats the difference between melting wax boats for an outcome and goading a president at the same hour every day into changing the course of geopolitics? Just because the ritual is different doesn't mean it's not magick. Just that it's really dumb how easily this works.

I'm reminded of older and more direct example, astrologist Joan Quigley and her involvement with Nancy and Ronald Raegan. Donald Raegan claims, "Every major move and decision the Reagans made during my time as White House Chief of Staff was cleared in advance [with Quigley]"

Perhaps it's not that magic has no place in warfare and politics, but rather everyone's learned their lesson. After Zahhak and the pharaoh in Exodus, the world agrees, no more sorcerers near kings.

 

[Morell]

Perhaps it's not that magic has no place in warfare and politics, but rather everyone's learned their lesson. After Zahhak and the pharaoh in Exodus, the world agrees, no more sorcerers near kings.

This seems to be far away from being the truth as I look around this thread.

It wasn't even the last tale of magic and power in the Bible either.

 

[freakstarsh]

probably, the SS has helped Hitler