Angelic Invocation (Magicians Who Only Invoke Angels)

[Gurublue]

For those of you who are ceremonial magicians who solely partake in angel magick (not choosing to do goetia) what has been your experience? why did you choose this path in magick? Why do you not work with goetic spirits as well?

 

[Fausto]

I do suggest you for working with so many ways of magic that you can hold on. But it's my humble opinion.
To work with angels and archangels is easy.
On the other hand to work with goetic spirits is a little more difficult, I do not believe coercion of spirits. Respect, here, is very important. But they are excellent for obtain knowledge.

 

[rice candy]

Wasn't compatible. I remember a time when I attempted to call forth one of them, I think Flauros, as a meet and greet ceremony.

I ended up coughing up blood within the first thirty minutes after the ritual.

I took it as a very clear sign that the Goetia are simply not for everyone. Or at least, not for me...

 

[Angelkesfarl]

"I believe that angels are entities that are always pure and pristine, representing supreme love and pure goodness. We have a saying: 'Fear not him who fears the One God.' The meaning is that he who fears and loves God will not harm you. Of course, there are angels of subjugation and death; in fact, there are angels for everything. We believe that every drop of water and every soul is accompanied by an angel, whether you believe this or not.

I have vast and diverse personal experiences, including communication with the 73rd Angel. They are active, influential, and real forces; no power or capability of any entity, spirit, or demon can match them. Naturally, in my teachings, there are no other gods but the One God. However, you cannot compel an angel; they only obey the True Creator. If they receive the permission to act, they could move the entire solar system to another dimension as easily as you carry your keys.

Advice from one who has experienced: Angels adore the kind-hearted and love purity and fragrant scents very, very, very, very much. Do not eat anything with a bad odor or have an unpleasant breath when summoning an angel. Never call upon them in impure places or in bathrooms, except in one case only: extreme danger. Thank you to everyone, and have a pleasant day."

 

[neilwilkes]

For those of you who are ceremonial magicians who solely partake in angel magick (not choosing to do goetia) what has been your experience? why did you choose this path in magick? Why do you not work with goetic spirits as well?

A - Because it's horses for courses, and invocation to physical appearance is a labour intensive chore that not everyone enjoys, or
B - Because the 2 are totally different systems, with the Solomonic tradition requiring an enormous amount of patience and preparation with the ever present possibility that things will go sideways because you have left out a step somewhere along the way - almost all copies of the Goetia are unworkable because so much crucial information on how to work it is left out or redacted somewhere along the way. At best this means your rituals either won't work at all, or at worst not at all in the way that you had imagined.
With a lot of the Goetia entities not wanting to come willingly the invoker is reduced to what can only be described as a form of coercion (what else would you call threatening to chain them?) and if they do come at all, you had better make absolutely certain that you know how to bind them correctly and have a very well worded charge - and be totally aware of all the various signs that an entity is present - or not - as the final step - the license to depart - doesn't always 'take' the first time (especially if you coerced the appearance in the first place) so be careful.
Plan things properly before you begin and make sure that you know exactly what you are doing.

From my admittedly limited experience, no 2 copies of the Goetia are the same, not the seals (where these are even present), not the names of the entities, nor (and this is really important) is the full procedure given in almost all copies of the Goetia.

 

[Angelkesfarl]

From my admittedly limited experience, no 2 copies of the Goetia are the same, not the seals (where these are even present), not the names of the entities, nor (and this is really important) is the full procedure given in almost all copies of the Goetia.

"I observe a genuine deficiency in the evocations and their governing names. The structure of any call or invocation for these entities is markedly incomplete. The variations in sigils across different manuscripts are slight; I suspect they result from subtle scribal errors or, in some cases, deliberate alterations. I am deeply committed to the study of Western Angelology and Demonology, having established certain core truths while others remain under active investigation. I hope we can share our findings to conserve time—which is, fundamentally, the most vital, rarest, and most critical asset a human possesses.

 

[Gurublue]

Thank you

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A - Because it's horses for courses, and invocation to physical appearance is a labour intensive chore that not everyone enjoys, or
B - Because the 2 are totally different systems, with the Solomonic tradition requiring an enormous amount of patience and preparation with the ever present possibility that things will go sideways because you have left out a step somewhere along the way - almost all copies of the Goetia are unworkable because so much crucial information on how to work it is left out or redacted somewhere along the way. At best this means your rituals either won't work at all, or at worst not at all in the way that you had imagined.
With a lot of the Goetia entities not wanting to come willingly the invoker is reduced to what can only be described as a form of coercion (what else would you call threatening to chain them?) and if they do come at all, you had better make absolutely certain that you know how to bind them correctly and have a very well worded charge - and be totally aware of all the various signs that an entity is present - or not - as the final step - the license to depart - doesn't always 'take' the first time (especially if you coerced the appearance in the first place) so be careful.
Plan things properly before you begin and make sure that you know exactly what you are doing.

From my admittedly limited experience, no 2 copies of the Goetia are the same, not the seals (where these are even present), not the names of the entities, nor (and this is really important) is the full procedure given in almost all copies of the Goetia.

Do you do work invoking Angels? If so, whats been your experience with that?