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Gluing Masamune back together is off the table. Turns out it wasn't ungluing, the metal of the blade started to give up where it was meeting the handle. The stainless steel in the handle was just very thin stick.. Now the sword is broken, but I keep it for now. Thing is like Andúril now, waiting to be reforged in some unknown time. Lol! 70 € loss is no tragedy. It makes me little sad, but more because I liked the blade (and because I was apparently little stupid) than because of the money.

Also interesting detail, the golden part between knife and tsuba went missing after the blade broke. It fell of the blade when I was packing it and after it fell into the grass, it was gone. I searched the lace like twenty times, but it's gone. Guess that faeries wanted it, so when it was clear I won't get it back, I gifted it to the spirits.

I guess that I'll have to buy a blade really meant for some practice. I'm lurking around one offer for 210€, have to check it more carefully. What can I say? The life is about making mistakes and learning from them.
Ah yes, the habaki. The heart of the sword according to some. No wonder the faeries coveted it. Or perhaps it's in a magpie's hoard now, which amounts to the same thing.

I did wonder if it was some kind of stick tang. Only option there is welding, but it would always be a weak spot. The blade and the tang of a sword really should all be ciut of forged from the same piece of metal because there are so many stresses at the point.
 

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Ah yes, the habaki. The heart of the sword according to some. No wonder the faeries coveted it. Or perhaps it's in a magpie's hoard now, which amounts to the same thing.

I did wonder if it was some kind of stick tang. Only option there is welding, but it would always be a weak spot. The blade and the tang of a sword really should all be ciut of forged from the same piece of metal because there are so many stresses at the point.
Heart of the blade? Wow. That makes a lot of sense. The blade felt awesome and kind of alive when I was cleaning it. Well, I guess it has what it wanted.

Must say that it is interesting to have actual tale of a blade that happened to me.
 

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Heart of the blade? Wow. That makes a lot of sense. The blade felt awesome and kind of alive when I was cleaning it. Well, I guess it has what it wanted.

Must say that it is interesting to have actual tale of a blade that happened to me.
You will have to find an elven smith to forge it anew. One day, when the stars are right!
 

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You will have to find an elven smith to forge it anew. One day, when the stars are right!
Well, i didn't throw the poor thing away. If I had the space, i would glue it together and mount it on the wall, using epoxy... For now I paid respect tot he spirits at the place, cleared a lot of litter from there, mostly energy drinks cans.

Which one is better? manganese steel or 1045? I'm walking around multiple offers on replacement blade, any of them will be pain in the wallet... literally.
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I think I'll try to get my hands on Manganese replica first...
 
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Well, i didn't throw the poor thing away. If I had the space, i would glue it together and mount it on the wall, using epoxy... For now I paid respect tot he spirits at the place, cleared a lot of litter from there, mostly energy drinks cans.

Which one is better? manganese steel or 1045? I'm walking around multiple offers on replacement blade, any of them will be pain in the wallet... literally.
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I think I'll try to get my hands on Manganese replica first...
Disgusting people no respect, energy drinks, endless disposable vapes here too. I have been salvaging the batteries from discarded vapes, but no further plan for them as of yet. I always have bird seed with me when I'm out because I feed the pigeons. And they would follow me around and make me feel guilty if I have nothing for them. Makes a pretty good all purpose offering, and the pigeon gods smile upon me too!(and any rats lurking, but I don't blame them for simply existing)

The manganese in the steel adds springiness to it, so a type of spring steel. Although the 5160 spring steel of my katana uses silicon. Probably 0.65% carbon in the manganese steel. 1045 steel is a basic carbon steel with 0.45% carbon, so lower carbon. I think at one point smiths were making blades from the leaf springs from car suspension, which probably works very well.

Some springiness or flex is good for a sword. If it's too hard it can be brittle. If it's too soft it can get bent out of shape. And then there is the heat treatment. Some of the higher ticket blades have a differential heat treatment where clay is added to reduce rapid cooling of part of the blade during the quench. Results in a harder edge, but a softer more flexible spine. Visible hamon line. Some cheaper blades have a fake hamon added, but that doesn't necessarily mean the blade itself is bad.

I expect trends in sword metallurgy have changed slightly since I bought mine. Lot more of this 65Mn steel around now. Blade metallurgy is another huge rabbit hole 🐰

I bought a small Chinese hatchet made of 65Mn. Tried to add a patina which behaved weirdly, otherwise hard to assess as it isn't a sword. No doubt a perfectly good material.

Probably any of these carbon steels make for a decent blade. Stainless is more for a showpiece. I know some Iaito use an entirely different kind of alloy as they don't need to withstand heavy cutting practice. And modern steels tend to be of a higher quality and consistency than anything we used historically. Unless you get into serious cutting you shouldn't notice much difference.

I suppose just go with what you like the look of. Let the sword gods guide you!
 
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