Book Discussion Has anyone used Jacobus Swart's psalms?

[Lion]

If you hiave used them did they give results? do you have to look at the hebrew letters of the pslams ? do you have to say them in Hebrew or can you say them in English?

 

[gerardobraham]

Yes, I have the three books, I use them regularly for different uses. Have they given better results than other types of magic? Not really, they are useful and work, I like to use them because people accept more easily if I tell them I will pray a psalm over them to help them rather than a magical formula. Useful, but not world changing.

 

[Lion]

I have just started using them. They seem very gentle ways of changing things. Do you do them in English?

 

[gerardobraham]

yes, my hebrew is not good

 

[Lion]

And you find the English works as well ?

 

[Lurking Magician]

For the christian magical uses I find that the Latin version works just as well, but for Hebrew tradition I'm doing my best to recite them in Hebrew.
I should experiment the byzantine magical uses by reciting them in Greek, actually

 

[Lion]

Interesting... do you look at the hebrew script also... and would you look at the greek script for Byzantine versions? You get results then - using the christian magical uses. I am trying the Jacobus Swart version. It requires quite a long pre-psalm reading (form book 1) befoer going on to do thje psalms. I sometimes want to do more than one psalm, but I dont re-do the pre-psalm bit when I do this.
I hope that is OK. Im interested in what gets results and it sounds like you might not be doing this pre-psalm bit and still get results.

 

[Lurking Magician]

I can read Ancient Greek, so if I recite in greek I look at the actual script.
My Hebrew is way worse (I can write the alphabet and recognize a few words, but not read directly from the script) so I'm using the transliteration from Swart while I slowly learn.

I don't do the pre-Salm for the latin recitations, but I did it the few times I did the Hebrew recitations. I also use one psalm per time, but it may be an interesting experiment to combine a few of them

 

[Lion]

Good idea. Do you find them effective when you use them?

 

[Pxan02]

Well it's not exactly traditional, but if you want to have a stronger magical effect you can use the psalms to conjure the shem angel (together with it's attendants if you want). This turns it from a simple prayer into a ritual. I found it really effective to do so.

 

[Lion]

I'll have to try that
Thanks

 

[MagicalMagician]

Well it's not exactly traditional, but if you want to have a stronger magical effect you can use the psalms to conjure the shem angel (together with it's attendants if you want). This turns it from a simple prayer into a ritual. I found it really effective to do so.

Hi, are the Shem Angels easy to conjure via the Psalm method? I tried the GOM sigils, but no response from them.

 

[Pxan02]

Hi, are the Shem Angels easy to conjure via the Psalm method? I tried the GOM sigils, but no response from them.

You might also want to check the book of immediate magic. It gives you the key to make sure they are listening to you. Also GOM follows an alternative psalm attribution to the Shem, which I was advised to not follow.