Christian folk practitioner working with Goetic Lucifer?

[hoodoohekate]

I saw a TikTok of a Christian folk practitioner working with Goetic Lucifer, and I'm just super curious if anyone else does this and what that even looks like.

 

[MagicalMagician]

Tiktok is Tiktok. Not the best source for learning about magick. But yes, "Lucifer" is mentioned constantly in several Christian grimoires and can be invocated as any other spirit. See Grimorium Verum

 

[Berdnius606]

He's mentioned to be invoked in multiple grimoires, but traditionally (per the Summa Sacre Magice and several Elizabethan MS's) he cannot come when conjured. He's quite stuck you see...
On the other hand, he is evoked in Abramelin.

 

[MagicalMagician]

He's mentioned to be invoked in multiple grimoires, but traditionally (per the Summa Sacre Magice and several Elizabethan MS's) he cannot come when conjured. He's quite stuck you see...
On the other hand, he is evoked in Abramelin.

I wonder why SSM and other Elizabethan MS would say that "Lucifer" is bound and simply cannot be summoned. Perhaps UPG or a deterrent to magicians? Reflection of a personal belief about Satan being bound from the authors? What do you think?

 

[Berdnius606]

I wonder why SSM and other Elizabethan MS would say that "Lucifer" is bound and simply cannot be summoned. Perhaps UPG or a deterrent to magicians? Reflection of a personal belief about Satan being bound from the authors? What do you think?

I feel confident it comes from the mythos associated with spirit. He is associated with the chained fallen angels in the abyss in the 2nd Book of Peter and the same motif in the Apocrypha from the Second Temple period. Medieval visionary literature generally depicts Lucifer as a monster trapped in the bottom part of Hell somehow, even before Dante. Muslim lore also often says Iblis is chained up in the lowest hell except for when God sees fit to release him temporarily for some purpose. In this paradigm, magicians wouldn't expect Lucifer to be summonable to a circle even if you can perhaps contact him when scrying or in a dream as in the experiment of (probably pseudo-) Michael Scot or invoke him to summon subordinate spirits.

I will note my reading of the SSM gave me the impression that the spirit listed as Satan may fill the role of a conjurable Lucifer. He is mentioned as the espiritus of Lucifer (I think, it's been a bit) and also his given appearance is very close to the way Lucifer is described in the text.

 

[Amadeus]

Tiktok is Tiktok. Not the best source for learning about magick.

Exactly. Tiktok is loaded with a lot of weird stuff, people doing showoff whatever and trying to collect virtual likes. I'm sure there are some more serious people there too but I have no idea, I don't use tiktok at all.

Sure, there are many Christian practitioners doing that, working with Lucifer or others.

Grimorium Verum

This is a great one for it. I work a lot with Christian prayers/texts too but also a bit with that, even memorized invocations to Scirlin, Astaroth and Lucifer.
When the GV is mentioned, we better summon our beloved master @MorganBlack , who can probably add something special here.

what that even looks like

You could do it like in the GV and experiment or use the invocations, some requests, then add the license to depart thing, build something along those lines. It can be done like that.