Emergency Banishings: Is There a "Nuclear Option"?

[agloval]

I'm finally getting around to organizing all of my ritual material, and while doing so I realized there's one area where my toolkit feels a bit thin: emergency banishings.

For routine work I already have the LBRP, barbarous words of power, and a few other methods that I'd rather not discuss publicly, but it made me wonder whether there's a sort of "nuclear option" that experienced practitioners keep in reserve in case something genuinely goes wrong.

I've never actually needed anything beyond my usual methods, and hopefully I never will, but I'd rather have everything organized and ready before I need it than start looking for solutions in the middle of a problem.

I've wondered about the Star Ruby, although I've always approached Thelema with a bit of hesitation, so I don't have any experience with it. For those of you who do, would you consider it significantly stronger or fundamentally different from the LBRP as an emergency banishing?

Or are there other rites, prayers, or techniques you'd recommend as a true last-resort banishing? I'd be interested in hearing what experienced practitioners keep in their own "break glass in case of emergency" toolbox.

 

[Beyond Everything]

There's a real lack of understanding in this area. As well , the obsessive daily banishing rituals people do are somewhat ridiculous and don't prevent them from encountering difficulties anyway.

The truth is anything that can be banished using a little ritual is not very formidable. And something may vanish from your immediate perception, and then go on to intefere with you in another way.

The best 'banishing' is establishing yourself as a power unto yourself. Period. Before you do that, you want to resonate with the energy that at the very least in the future you can greatly impact any discarnate entities.

Holding an emotional inner charge of 'emergency' is very far from the position you want to be holding.

 

[agloval]

I was actually referring to an emergency banishing for a major ritual that I've been preparing for the past year.

 

[HoldAll]

Lightning-fast and powerful: the "Phat!" mantra. Spit it out venomously and with evil intent, and the air around you will clear immediately.

 

[Morell]

I'm finally getting around to organizing all of my ritual material, and while doing so I realized there's one area where my toolkit feels a bit thin: emergency banishings.

For routine work I already have the LBRP, barbarous words of power, and a few other methods that I'd rather not discuss publicly, but it made me wonder whether there's a sort of "nuclear option" that experienced practitioners keep in reserve in case something genuinely goes wrong.

I've never actually needed anything beyond my usual methods, and hopefully I never will, but I'd rather have everything organized and ready before I need it than start looking for solutions in the middle of a problem.

I've wondered about the Star Ruby, although I've always approached Thelema with a bit of hesitation, so I don't have any experience with it. For those of you who do, would you consider it significantly stronger or fundamentally different from the LBRP as an emergency banishing?

Or are there other rites, prayers, or techniques you'd recommend as a true last-resort banishing? I'd be interested in hearing what experienced practitioners keep in their own "break glass in case of emergency" toolbox.

At first I wanted to call the question stupid, but in fact it's not stupid at all. Rereading tales of Lovecraft I'm immediately reminded of the quote: "Never summon what you cannot banish, etc." The dude is right, actually.

It is disadvantage that you didn't tell what being you are planning to summon, but from logic if it is part of some magic system, then that system usually will have some way to banish this being. Basing on the fact that the banishing in that system has already been sucesful against that being, I would guess that it is the most effective one.

If you go chaos or beyond known realms, still you can find something.

Personally, I use my basic banishing ritual quite effectively. When doing it daily, I imprint no intent beyond balancing my energy, or none at all, because it is rather discipline and custom building matter. But then when the need comes, I simply push my intent and strength into it and it immediately becomes entirely different matter. Also I found out that holding a knife while doing banishing made it way more effective. Mostly because I was including the knife into my focus. The point is, your banishing ritual will be as strong as you will make it to be.

Danger depends on the being you intent to contact. If it is a peaceful being and you intent to come in peace and such stuff, banishing should not be necessary. But if the being is expected to be problematic, then having a hard stick is a good idea... but you need to know how to use it effectively - to be an unquestionable master of the space where you perform the rite.

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...in other words, the best advice is for you yourself to become your nuclear solution. That takes time and you have to always remain aware of your limitations...

 

[agloval]

Lightning-fast and powerful: the "Phat!" mantra. Spit it out venomously and with evil intent, and the air around you will clear immediately.

That's a new one for me. I'll definitely look into it thanks for the recommendation. I was mainly thinking of something that could be deployed very quickly if I ever had to interrupt a major working, so a fast method like that is exactly the kind of thing I was hoping to learn about.

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At first I wanted to call the question stupid, but in fact it's not stupid at all. Rereading tales of Lovecraft I'm immediately reminded of the quote: "Never summon what you cannot banish, etc." The dude is right, actually.

It is disadvantage that you didn't tell what being you are planning to summon, but from logic if it is part of some magic system, then that system usually will have some way to banish this being. Basing on the fact that the banishing in that system has already been sucesful against that being, I would guess that it is the most effective one.

If you go chaos or beyond known realms, still you can find something.

Personally, I use my basic banishing ritual quite effectively. When doing it daily, I imprint no intent beyond balancing my energy, or none at all, because it is rather discipline and custom building matter. But then when the need comes, I simply push my intent and strength into it and it immediately becomes entirely different matter. Also I found out that holding a knife while doing banishing made it way more effective. Mostly because I was including the knife into my focus. The point is, your banishing ritual will be as strong as you will make it to be.

Danger depends on the being you intent to contact. If it is a peaceful being and you intent to come in peace and such stuff, banishing should not be necessary. But if the being is expected to be problematic, then having a hard stick is a good idea... but you need to know how to use it effectively - to be an unquestionable master of the space where you perform the rite.

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...in other words, the best advice is for you yourself to become your nuclear solution. That takes time and you have to always remain aware of your limitations...

Haha, don't worry. wasn't offended. I have to admit it probably does sound like a strange question at first.

Unfortunately, I can't really say who or what the operation is directed toward. Part of the commitment I made was not to discuss those details publicly, so I'd rather keep that part private.

I'm currently at the end of a working that has taken me a little over a year to prepare, and the final operation is by far the most demanding part. That's really where my question was coming from.

I already have several emergency methods in place, so it's not as if I'm going into this unprepared. I was simply wondering if there was another reliable "last resort" that experienced practitioners keep in reserve. I don't expect to need it, but I'd rather be overly prepared than wish I'd asked afterward.

I also really liked your point about intent. It makes a lot of sense that a familiar banishing, performed with absolute authority and focused intent, becomes something very different from the same ritual done routinely. That's probably one of the most valuable things I'm taking away from this discussion.

 

[HoldAll]

That's a new one for me. I'll definitely look into it thanks for the recommendation. I was mainly thinking of something that could be deployed very quickly if I ever had

It's often used as a part of longer mantras but

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[Ignotus]

Sounds weird at first, but laughing out loud is actually a solid emergency banishing option. Just force a big loud laugh, it instantly breaks the energy and sends most unwanted guests packing. Works surprisingly well.

 

[agloval]

Thanks, everyone, for taking the time to reply and share your thoughts.

I genuinely appreciate all the different perspectives. There were several ideas here that I hadn't considered, and they've given me a lot to think about as I finish preparing for this operation.

I'm hoping I never actually need any of these emergency measures, but I'd much rather be prepared in advance than have to improvise if something unexpected happens.

Thanks again to all of you for the advice and for sharing your experience.

 

[Yazata]

nuclear option

Maybe the Solar Banishing Wave?

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[solxyz]

I agree with Beyond Everything: having mastery of your own energy is the main thing. If you do, basically anything will work. You're just telling a guest that they need to leave. If you do it with genuine authority, regardless of the words or ritual actions that you use, then 98% of the time they will do so. For that 2% that don't, then you need to start displaying your ability to fuck them up, whether that is your own weaponry or the reinforcements that you can call in.

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If you really need a nuclear option, and you don't have time to build your own nuke, then your best bet is to make friends with someone who has one. Usually these are deities or other high level protector beings (angels, etc). Find one or two that you like, and start building a relationship with them. Before you start your potentially dangerous ritual, you can check in with them and ask them to be on call.

 

[Morell]

Haha, don't worry. wasn't offended. I have to admit it probably does sound like a strange question at first.

Unfortunately, I can't really say who or what the operation is directed toward. Part of the commitment I made was not to discuss those details publicly, so I'd rather keep that part private.

I'm currently at the end of a working that has taken me a little over a year to prepare, and the final operation is by far the most demanding part. That's really where my question was coming from.

I already have several emergency methods in place, so it's not as if I'm going into this unprepared. I was simply wondering if there was another reliable "last resort" that experienced practitioners keep in reserve. I don't expect to need it, but I'd rather be overly prepared than wish I'd asked afterward.

I also really liked your point about intent. It makes a lot of sense that a familiar banishing, performed with absolute authority and focused intent, becomes something very different from the same ritual done routinely. That's probably one of the most valuable things I'm taking away from this discussion.

Good call. Keeping your side of agreement is actually very important in your part of preventing things getting out of hand. I definitely respect that.

Beyond that I can only recommend to keep calm and keep cool head, that helps a lot in dealing with any situation. And then is is most likely to be fine.

 

[Frater R.P.G.]

Surprised that the Supreme Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram hasn't been mentioned yet! It's not really a "nuclear option", but the Enochian names used in it are powerful enough that I hardly ever needed to resort to anything else. In more extreme cases I tend to work with archangel Michael.

 

[akenu]

Just for completeness' sake. I was always very fond of the exorcism zi dingir from Simon's Necronomicon.

 

[agloval]

Surprised that the Supreme Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram hasn't been mentioned yet! It's not really a "nuclear option", but the Enochian names used in it are powerful enough that I hardly ever needed to resort to anything else. In more extreme cases I tend to work with archangel Michael.

Thanks! I honestly hadn't thought about the Supreme Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram in this context, so I'll definitely take a closer look at it.

As for Michael, I've actually never worked with him beyond the basic banishing rituals, so that's an interesting suggestion. It might be worth exploring that approach a bit more.

I appreciate you taking the time to reply.

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Just for completeness' sake. I was always very fond of the exorcism zi dingir from Simon's Necronomicon.

Thanks for mentioning it! I'd actually never even heard of the zi dingir exorcism before, so you've given me something new to look into.

Is there a particular source or book you'd recommend reading to learn it properly? I'd appreciate any recommendations.

Thanks again for the suggestion.

 

[esswavesse]

I'm finally getting around to organizing all of my ritual material, and while doing so I realized there's one area where my toolkit feels a bit thin: emergency banishings.

For routine work I already have the LBRP, barbarous words of power, and a few other methods that I'd rather not discuss publicly, but it made me wonder whether there's a sort of "nuclear option" that experienced practitioners keep in reserve in case something genuinely goes wrong.

I've never actually needed anything beyond my usual methods, and hopefully I never will, but I'd rather have everything organized and ready before I need it than start looking for solutions in the middle of a problem.

I've wondered about the Star Ruby, although I've always approached Thelema with a bit of hesitation, so I don't have any experience with it. For those of you who do, would you consider it significantly stronger or fundamentally different from the LBRP as an emergency banishing?

Or are there other rites, prayers, or techniques you'd recommend as a true last-resort banishing? I'd be interested in hearing what experienced practitioners keep in their own "break glass in case of emergency" toolbox.

i don't tend to do magic that demands a specific path to an outcome. as in, i wouldn't ask specifically for a banishing, but would describe my situation, why it harms me, what i wish to be alleviated from, and do work to change my experience.