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What do you most commonly use magick for? I help friends with money and love magick and for myself? Strength, confidence and courage to the point of being utterly fearless. Ive never used baneful magick and although I don't have anything against (some just deserve to get hexed). I prefer using my fists when teaching someone a lesson, usually I lose. Takes a long time to beat me senseless though. Right, on to my very unpopular opion. So, all magick really is. Is self help therapy, but with frills and fuss. Now I know all the vocalisations and somatics and ingredients may be a way to train and run mental attunement programs in your psyche to get you into the 'vibe' necessary to cause change in your reality. And as much as I love Hermeticism and magick and being able cause these changes, it's a shite load of homework, about 3000 years worth, just so I can better myself. Having said that, Cernunnos has helped me a great deal also. Now bear in mind I haven't yet summoned demons or called upon angels or traversed the planes, astrally or otherwise. So for now Im breaking it down to to base elements 'frills and fuss'.
What say you?
I don't use ceremonial magic much any more, although I did a fair amount of LBRP (banishing) and talismanic work back in the '80s. Seems to me that once we get past the satisfaction of "causing change to occur in conformity to Will," what's left is mostly doing stuff to prove to ourselves we can do it. (I'm not religious so I don't have much interest in angels, and I've never summoned a demon either because I never had a need to). Invocation (bringing the power within) seems to make more sense than evocation (summoning entities to do our bidding). I still do some Astral Plan exploration as a side project to my primary interest in divination, which I consider "practical mysticism."
I don't use ceremonial magic much any more, although I did a fair amount of LBRP (banishing) and talismanic work back in the '80s. Seems to me that once we get past the satisfaction of "causing change to occur in conformity to Will," what's left is mostly doing stuff to prove to ourselves we can do it. (I'm not religious so I don't have much interest in angels, and I've never summoned a demon either because I never had a need to). Invocation (bringing the power within) seems to make more sense than evocation (summoning entities to do our bidding). I still do some Astral Plan exploration as a side project to my primary interest in divination, which I consider "practical mysticism."
Oh I just can't wait to bully demons in into servitude and charm angels into getting shit done for me by turning on my AWESOME charisma. Anyway... When one gets bored thats when you either need to start touching yourself or get someone else to do it for you. What I'm saying is ... SEX.... MAGICK... Bruh! That's what what these Hermetic dweebs are KNOWN for. Boning and moaning for mana and mojo. Damn I gonna get 11 dudes to bang me, then transmute all that sperm into power for a 12th dude who's gonna drink it straight from my body. And then do me nice and slow after. I just busy with the invocations at the moment and me struggling a bit. I'll be doing the working in the hopes Asmodeus will hear me and help me out channeling all that raw bareback power. Get it wrong and I may explode spectacularly if In not careful but with him at my back it should work. Ok that's a joke, the exploding part, but you get what I mean. Getting the participants is easy. It's designing the magic, the direction and flow of energy, and channeling all that power that's hard. But it's also fun... SO MUCH FUN! Just imagine me blowing up in a great cloud of glitter and rainbows if I do FAK it up
So Wish me luck for when I F**k! And hopefully not F**I it all up!
Oh I just can't wait to bully demons in into servitude and charm angels into getting shit done for me by turning on my AWESOME charisma. Anyway... When one gets bored thats when you either need to start touching yourself or get someone else to do it for you. What I'm saying is ... SEX.... MAGICK... Bruh! That's what what these Hermetic dweebs are KNOWN for. Boning and moaning for mana and mojo. Damn I gonna get 11 dudes to bang me, then transmute all that sperm into power for a 12th dude who's gonna drink it straight from my body. And then do me nice and slow after. I just busy with the invocations at the moment and me struggling a bit. I'll be doing the working in the hopes Asmodeus will hear me and help me out channeling all that raw bareback power. Get it wrong and I may explode spectacularly if In not careful but with him at my back it should work. Ok that's a joke, the exploding part, but you get what I mean. Getting the participants is easy. It's designing the magic, the direction and flow of energy, and channeling all that power that's hard. But it's also fun... SO MUCH FUN! Just imagine me blowing up in a great cloud of glitter and rainbows if I do FAK it up
So Wish me luck for when I F**k! And hopefully not F**I it all up!
I'm sorry In just in mood today, Ill be more serious tommorow I promise. To be honest id like to know, since you abandoned Hermeticism while it was still in its infancy with regards to you. Did you seek out wisdom and power from any other magick path or paths? If so which ones?
I'm sorry In just in mood today, Ill be more serious tommorow I promise. To be honest id like to know, since you abandoned Hermeticism while it was still in its infancy with regards to you. Did you seek out wisdom and power from any other magick path or paths? If so which ones?
Well, I didn't abandon Hermeticism, just the practice of ceremonial magic in its ritual form in my late 30s. I've stayed with Hermetic Qabalism from a philosophical perspective all those years since as well as practicing several types of divination, some of it performed professionally. Ever since Covid I spend most of my time and effort blogging about esoteric subjects.
I swear I'm not trying to be nitpicky, but I actually don't like the concept of "using" magic very much. I think of it more like "helping" it, because to me, magick isn't a "tool" any more than like, say, friendship is a "tool". I imagine magick itself, the thing-in-itself that we refer to whenever we even use that word in a sentence, whatever we think it means, whatever it is to us, and whatever it actually is - is a being, an entity, and it has volition, and it has independence and dreams, and there is a conversation that one could have with "magick" as if it were a god you could speak directly to and ask it about itself. You form an intimate relationship with it and it becomes your ally and actually desires to work with you as much as you desire to work with it.
Well, I didn't abandon Hermeticism, just the practice of ceremonial magic in its ritual form in my late 30s. I've stayed with Hermetic Qabalism from a philosophical perspective all those years since as well as practicing several types of divination, some of it performed professionally. Ever since Covid I spend most of my time and effort blogging about esoteric subjects.
I just read your intro post, so you are quite the diviner. Is there any particular reason or is the money good. My husband is a Norse Shaman Runeworker and skilled in Galdr and Seidr also. In Seidr there is an aspect of prophecy to some of it. But he is so knowledgeable about so many other paths. I'd like to be more like him. It's funny I only STARTED with High Magick when I hit my 30s (even though I bought my first book on Hermeticism when I was 16. I was scared I would be branded a Satanist by family and friends back then it was the satanic panic era). Anyway it's been slow going. I live in Africa and never even met another Hermetic mage. So no mentor or teacher just 3000 years worth of bloody homework. So far all I do is love and money magick for friends. And personally I seek power for myself. I want to be strong, and confident and have courage, more than my share. Ugh its So many planets, dates, times, colours, stones, sigils,, seals and blooming pentacles.
Still, the first time I ever saw a Vegvisr I knew I'd seen it somewhere before and went digging. I belonged to An Asatru group and To cut a long story short, with my fact finding and interviewing Icelandic academics I debunked the authenticity of the Vegvisr as having it roots in Solomonic magick. There was a HUGE schism and uproar in the group and half left. Those that clung to its sacred Nordicness all got mad and buggered off. People can be so dumb. Even faced with evidence irrefutable evidence from many sources they still cling to things. Every time I see a big strong Viking looking dude with a Vegvisr tattoo I want to laugh my arse off and my husband has to shut me up coz I DO get into trouble alot. So I guess I'm adept at pattern recognition and energy transference. I spontaneously manifest random shit alot otherwise. But that's bout it.
I swear I'm not trying to be nitpicky, but I actually don't like the concept of "using" magic very much. I think of it more like "helping" it, because to me, magick isn't a "tool" any more than like, say, friendship is a "tool". I imagine magick itself, the thing-in-itself that we refer to whenever we even use that word in a sentence, whatever we think it means, whatever it is to us, and whatever it actually is - is a being, an entity, and it has volition, and it has independence and dreams, and there is a conversation that one could have with "magick" as if it were a god you could speak directly to and ask it about itself. You form an intimate relationship with it and it becomes your ally and actually desires to work with you as much as you desire to work with it.
Then you are more of a Theist than an Occultist. And thats fine. I myself venerate Cernunnos but I see magick as simply a tool, to used to gain that which I or others desire. Now Cernunnos can pretty much influence my life and do stuff for me if I ask him nicely with a little offering. As he God he would naturally also have magick of his own. I refuse to worship anyone or anything though, I venerate and I ask nicely with a little offering. Sometimes I like to think of magick also as simply the chest codes to the Universe. Just code like math. A tool with all the bells and whistles. Thanks for sharing.
The money's decent when it comes, but it's intermittent. I make more selling my ebooks on Lulu. I don't care much for online reading, being mainly a face-to-face guy; otherwise I might earn more. But as you can tell from the white beard, I'm retired with a pension, investments and other income, so the divination is mostly a hobby. I call it "getting under the skin of objective reality to see what makes the Universe tick."
I just read your intro post, so you are quite the diviner. Is there any particular reason or is the money good. My husband is a Norse Shaman Runeworker and skilled in Galdr and Seidr also. In Seidr there is an aspect of prophecy to some of it. But he is so knowledgeable about so many other paths. I'd like to be more like him. It's funny I only STARTED with High Magick when I hit my 30s (even though I bought my first book on Hermeticism when I was 16. I was scared I would be branded a Satanist by family and friends back then it was the satanic panic era). Anyway it's been slow going. I live in Africa and never even met another Hermetic mage. So no mentor or teacher just 3000 years worth of bloody homework. So far all I do is love and money magick for friends. And personally I seek power for myself. I want to be strong, and confident and have courage, more than my share. Ugh its So many planets, dates, times, colours, stones, sigils,, seals and blooming pentacles.
Still, the first time I ever saw a Vegvisr I knew I'd seen it somewhere before and went digging. I belonged to An Asatru group and To cut a long story short, with my fact finding and interviewing Icelandic academics I debunked the authenticity of the Vegvisr as having it roots in Solomonic magick. There was a HUGE schism and uproar in the group and half left. Those that clung to its sacred Nordicness all got mad and buggered off. People can be so dumb. Even faced with evidence irrefutable evidence from many sources they still cling to things. Every time I see a big strong Viking looking dude with a Vegvisr tattoo I want to laugh my arse off and my husband has to shut me up coz I DO get into trouble alot. So I guess I'm adept at pattern recognition and energy transference. I spontaneously manifest random shit alot otherwise. But that's bout it.
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Then you are more of a Theist than an Occultist. And thats fine. I myself venerate Cernunnos but I see magick as simply a tool, to used to gain that which I or others desire. Now Cernunnos can pretty much influence my life and do stuff for me if I ask him nicely with a little offering. As he God he would naturally also have magick of his own. I refuse to worship anyone or anything though, I venerate and I ask nicely with a little offering. Sometimes I like to think of magick also as simply the chest codes to the Universe. Just code like math. A tool with all the bells and whistles. Thanks for sharing.
I certainly agree. I can't see magic as having sentience or consciousness (except to the extent that I'm a Spinozan sympathizer when it comes to deity). It's more like a blind force that we can direct to our own ends with a sufficient application of Will.
The money's decent when it comes, but it's intermittent. I make more selling my ebooks on Lulu. I don't care much for online reading, being mainly a face-to-face guy; otherwise I might earn more. But as you can tell from the white beard, I'm retired with a pension, investments and other income, so the divination is mostly a hobby. I call it "getting under the skin of objective reality to see what makes the Universe tick."
Oh I like that, I do something similar and step outside of myself and lose all my sense of self just to see how it all works. But what I'm really trying to find out is the 'why' of things. Not the how, that can be very well explained with quantum physics and Relativity also. Its the WHY that eludes me, and just about everyone else it seems. I find it utterly mystifying and damn beyond my reach of understanding.
Oh I like that, I do something similar and step outside of myself and lose all my sense of self just to see how it all works. But what I'm really trying to find out is the 'why' of things. Not the how, that can be very well explained with quantum physics and Relativity also. Its the WHY that eludes me, and just about everyone else it seems. I find it utterly mystifying and damn beyond my reach of understanding.
Interesting you should say that. I just wrote an essay in which I mentioned that my divination is not aimed so much at "what, when, where and who" as it is focused on "why" and "how." I want it to convey purpose and not just prophecy.
Interesting you should say that. I just wrote an essay in which I mentioned that my divination is not aimed so much at "what, when, where and who" as it is focused on "why" and "how." I want it to convey purpose and not just prophecy.
Yes, the why, is paramount for me to try understand. See I once had a dog and I lived alone with him on my farm for fifteen years. He was my whole Universe, my friend my child, my only companion and the first thing I truly loved in this world. He was super chilled and only got annoyed when other dogs came too close to me. Wasn't interested in other people either, it was all about us. He got old and he died one night while I held him screaming my lungs to pieces. Afterwards I had a breakdown mentality and my family commited me for a few months. I just didn't understand. Couldn't get my head around the concept of something you love SO SO much dying and not existing anymore. Little boys aren't meant to die. So I went looking for the why of things. Quantum physics only explains the how. In a crazy ass way not fully understood. religions just teased with me alot of Flirting and promises THEY know the why of everything. And I gave them all mostly a wide berth. They had nothing I wanted. I can smell a con coming from Mile away. I was at the end and about to kill myself. When I just happened to pass out from exhaustion and fell asleep. I had a dream, Cernunnos called to me and picked me up and carried me to a little cabin deep in his woods and as soon as we got there my boy ran out the cabins door and jumped all over me and licked my face. Cernunnos then said that I could stay there when my time came for as long as I wished. The dream then ended with my boy still licking my face. He now comes to visit me in dreams from time to time always with the jumping and the licking like he hasn't seen me in a while. I even had a lady come up to me in the street to tell me that there was a dog following me around. And then explained she could see things most people couldn't. But I never really got over his death. And I desperately needed to know the why of EVERYTHING. because the thought of never seeing him again terrifies me so badly that my mind threatens to start sliding back into the crack it fell into when he died. I have a husband now yes and I love him dearly. But he will have to join us in the woods because my soul I already sent on ahead for my boy to take care off so that he won't be alone. But it's not enough. I need to KNOW. otherwise what's the point. May as well entropy and oblivion take me now and me dissapate in nothing because what's the point if I never see him again. I really really hope there is something for me. And that he is waiting. I should stop. I'm starting to lose my shit a little bit. Anyway. It never goes away and it never gets better 8 years and it's like where is he, why is he not here. When will I see him again. Will I ever. I'm that's it enough I can't anymore have a good night.
I have similar (but nowhere near as visceral) experiences with my maternal grandfather, who occasionally (although rarely) visits me in dreams with a benign smile on his face. He was my role model when I was a kid, a literal (I shit you not) lumberjack from New Brunswick. I've created tarot spreads for ancestor contact and have had him come in.
