Emergency Banishings: Is There a "Nuclear Option"?

[Spiritual doctor]

From where you get those barbarous names are those from grimoires or personal book discuss me

 

[ribbit93]

Hi
Just to add to what has already been suggested, to give yourself time/space to carryout a full banishing (I'm a fan of both LBRP & SBRP), Banishing by fiat is a great option
as already said Phat

others I like:
Bahlasti
Ompehda
APO PANTOS KAKODAIMONOS
Hekas, hekas, este bebeloi

 

[Allofyoush]

Hi
Just to add to what has already been suggested, to give yourself time/space to carryout a full banishing (I'm a fan of both LBRP & SBRP), Banishing by fiat is a great option
as already said Phat

others I like:
Bahlasti
Ompehda
APO PANTOS KAKODAIMONOS
Hekas, hekas, este bebeloi

From where did these originate?

 

[Nembra]

You can call upon some formidable power that would be willing to help you. I don't know what options you might be willing to consider, but Yahveh has made a number of one-sided covenants with humanity you can call upon. He doesn't fail, but you might find accidentally cursing yourself really badly if you don't approach the matter properly.

 

[ribbit93]

Bahlasti and Ompehda originate from Liber Legis, and Crowley thought they were onomatopoeias that sound like an explosion.

APO PANTOS KAKODAIMONOS comes from Crowley's Star Ruby and translates to Away all evil spirits (roughly)

Hekas, hekas, este bebeloi is similar, and was popularised by the Golden Dawn

 

[Allofyoush]

You can call upon some formidable power that would be willing to help you. I don't know what options you might be willing to consider, but Yahveh has made a number of one-sided covenants with humanity you can call upon. He doesn't fail, but you might find accidentally cursing yourself really badly if you don't approach the matter properly.

Solomonic? Enochian?

Bahlasti and Ompehda originate from Liber Legis, and Crowley thought they were onomatopoeias that sound like an explosion.

APO PANTOS KAKODAIMONOS comes from Crowley's Star Ruby and translates to Away all evil spirits (roughly)

Hekas, hekas, este bebeloi is similar, and was popularised by the Golden Dawn

So very Western Occult influenced. Any similar Eastern mantras for a similar effect? Or perhaps Hecatean/witchy? And I'm curious to know if anyone has tested these and how "effective" they are.

 

[ribbit93]

Solomonic? Enochian?

So very Western Occult influenced. Any similar Eastern mantras for a similar effect? Or perhaps Hecatean/witchy? And I'm curious to know if anyone has tested these and how "effective" they are.

Both APO PANTOS KAKODAIMONOS and Hekas, hekas, este bebeloi are Greek, not sure what you mean by Hecatean?

 

[ahathoor]

There have been some interesting suggestions, but I wonder what a "nuclear option" would really mean. You have your usual ways of banishment and exorcism, regardless of power and potency, those are part of your repertoire.

To me, "nuclear" doesn't merely suggest power, but sacrifice. That everything went wrong, and your own / "normal" strength isn't enough.

As someone mentioned, going in with even the consideration that it could come to this is probably not an advisable approach to spirit work...

 

[Zelator2148]

I had one episode of emergency banishing back in the 1980s. A friend contacted me in a panic because he perceived that his recently-purchased home was awash in evil energy (there's a back-story that I won't go into). I did some research, found a talisman that was right for the occasion, created and charged it, took it to his place and unleashed it with appropriate words of power. Afterward, he purged the premises of all of the former owner's installed artifacts that were causing him distress and that was the end of it.

 

[Nembra]

Solomonic? Enochian?

Either is a bad idea, I reckon, for this purpose at least.

 

[agloval]

I had one episode of emergency banishing back in the 1980s. A friend contacted me in a panic because he perceived that his recently-purchased home was awash in evil energy (there's a back-story that I won't go into). I did some research, found a talisman that was right for the occasion, created and charged it, took it to his place and unleashed it with appropriate words of power. Afterward, he purged the premises of all of the former owner's installed artifacts that were causing him distress and that was the end of it.

Thanks for sharing that!

 

[Allofyoush]

Both APO PANTOS KAKODAIMONOS and Hekas, hekas, este bebeloi are Greek, not sure what you mean by Hecatean?

Hecatean just means witchy to me. Well it's working with Hecate obviously but not necessarily within the gree pantheon. The magic goddesses (Isis/Nephthys, Hecate), the Trinity, etc

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You can call upon some formidable power that would be willing to help you. I don't know what options you might be willing to consider, but Yahveh has made a number of one-sided covenants with humanity you can call upon. He doesn't fail, but you might find accidentally cursing yourself really badly if you don't approach the matter properly.

The tetragrammaton? יהוה? Multiple covenants? How does that translate into banishing?

 

[TheMagician]

Aiyaa.

 

[Nembra]

The tetragrammaton? יהוה? Multiple covenants? How does that translate into banishing?

The tetragrammaton indeed. He exerts unmatched power over all other spirits and has sworn himself to answer desperate calls under certain conditions.

 

[Allofyoush]

The tetragrammaton indeed. He exerts unmatched power over all other spirits and has sworn himself to answer desperate calls under certain conditions.

How so? I'm not familiar with anything other than the old testament classic covenants. Just a newb here so pretty unfamiliar with any pacts or powers within the traditions. I was raised with some kabbalah and I'm now looking into chaos magick as a basis so I can incorporate all I gather into a single theorem, but if you could describe how yhwh fits into the scene, I always appreciate new perspectives.

 

[shemha]

I'm finally getting around to organizing all of my ritual material, and while doing so I realized there's one area where my toolkit feels a bit thin: emergency banishings.

For routine work I already have the LBRP, barbarous words of power, and a few other methods that I'd rather not discuss publicly, but it made me wonder whether there's a sort of "nuclear option" that experienced practitioners keep in reserve in case something genuinely goes wrong.

I've never actually needed anything beyond my usual methods, and hopefully I never will, but I'd rather have everything organized and ready before I need it than start looking for solutions in the middle of a problem.

I've wondered about the Star Ruby, although I've always approached Thelema with a bit of hesitation, so I don't have any experience with it. For those of you who do, would you consider it significantly stronger or fundamentally different from the LBRP as an emergency banishing?

Or are there other rites, prayers, or techniques you'd recommend as a true last-resort banishing? I'd be interested in hearing what experienced practitioners keep in their own "break glass in case of emergency" toolbox.

Algol (Beta Persei) Amulet is very very strong

 

[Nembra]

How so? I'm not familiar with anything other than the old testament classic covenants. Just a newb here so pretty unfamiliar with any pacts or powers within the traditions. I was raised with some kabbalah and I'm now looking into chaos magick as a basis so I can incorporate all I gather into a single theorem, but if you could describe how yhwh fits into the scene, I always appreciate new perspectives.

He is what he says he is, I think. This does break several systems of belief, of course. His faithful are promised spiritual protection, I guess 18th chapter of proverbs comes to mind right now, but there are several others. Of course, one needs to have sincere will of aligning with him and not everyone would like to do that (though I don't know anyone who would end up losing on that deal), but if everything else fails this is ultimately an option.

 

[Allofyoush]

He is what he says he is, I think. This does break several systems of belief, of course. His faithful are promised spiritual protection, I guess 18th chapter of proverbs comes to mind right now, but there are several others. Of course, one needs to have sincere will of aligning with him and not everyone would like to do that (though I don't know anyone who would end up losing on that deal), but if everything else fails this is ultimately an option.

I'm Jewish but I'm not looking to support Israel at the moment, so maybe I'll do my own thing and reference yhwh through other deity images🫠

 

[Nembra]

I'm Jewish but I'm not looking to support Israel at the moment, so maybe I'll do my own thing and reference yhwh through other deity images🫠

I have no idea what that would possibly have to do with supporting the country of Israel, to be honest.

 

[Allofyoush]

I have no idea what that would possibly have to do with supporting the country of Israel, to be honest.

I'm not trying to follow any whack ass commandments. And I did study the Torah, mishna, and gemara for a while, so I either take it all or none of it atm. There's a lot of ethnosupremacy and other gross stuff I don't want to get into. And there's the curse thing too! I rly want to hex Israel but if I go that route, I'd have to "believe" in the repercussions too. Not that I think the modern Israel is the same ישראל that the Torah means when it says that cursing it curses yourself, but I'm also not trying to get too deep into things I don't yet understand. My goals are love, justice, and power. I don't need a Godform as an enemy rn. If you have other insight into how this works, I'm glad to learn