Do vampires actually exist?

[sadsdasass]

Do you believe vampires exist in any real occult or spiritual sense, such as psychic or energy vampires? Or is vampirism purely folklore and symbolism?

 

[Hasuna]

of course they exist, there are also entities that embody this archetype such as Astovidad, Noctulius etc.
there are entire covens for that, although they are inspired by the folklore and tales. but in the spiritual and occult sense, they exist.

 

[Lu_CiD]

of course they exist, there are also entities that embody this archetype such as Astovidad, Noctulius etc.
there are entire covens for that, although they are inspired by the folklore and tales. but in the spiritual and occult sense, they exist.

other than folk tales there are not allot of sightings or encounters. what makes you think that physical vampires exist?

 

[Hasuna]

other than folk tales there are not allot of sightings or encounters. what makes you think that physical vampires exist?

First of all, don't think that I am referring to vampires as people that are extracted from folk tales and live and dress exactly like that. The Vampire was invented by such tales in the first place. It did not exist before. What existed before were people/archetypes/entities that have similarities with it, that's it.

Now, as for what is currently happening in the occult scene, there are multiple paradigms regarding your vampire taste.
There are magicians who take the energy from blood, check out "Sanguinomicon" by Father Sebastiaan
There are psychic vampires, check out "The Psychic Vampire Codex" by Michelle Belanger
There are those who take energy (prana) from people or stars or the earth or whatever - check out ND Blackwood's books
and a lot fucking more, there are more advanced people taking energy from entities, stealing their abilities etc etc.

And let me tell you something, every person is "vampiric" by default, that's what Lilith told me. You basically exchange energy with people every day. When you are sick and have 0 energy, why do you think that having people near makes you feel better? you are taking their energy! The difference is, the people that study the vampiric arts, are only more aware of this process and can do it by their own will.

 

[Lu_CiD]

First of all, don't think that I am referring to vampires as people that are extracted from folk tales and live and dress exactly like that. The Vampire was invented by such tales in the first place. It did not exist before. What existed before were people/archetypes/entities that have similarities with it, that's it.

Now, as for what is currently happening in the occult scene, there are multiple paradigms regarding your vampire taste.
There are magicians who take the energy from blood, check out "Sanguinomicon" by Father Sebastiaan
There are psychic vampires, check out "The Psychic Vampire Codex" by Michelle Belanger
There are those who take energy (prana) from people or stars or the earth or whatever - check out ND Blackwood's books
and a lot fucking more, there are more advanced people taking energy from entities, stealing their abilities etc etc.

And let me tell you something, every person is "vampiric" by default, that's what Lilith told me. You basically exchange energy with people every day. When you are sick and have 0 energy, why do you think that having people near makes you feel better? you are taking their energy! The difference is, the people that study the vampiric arts, are only more aware of this process and can do it by their own will.

ok I misunderstood. I was thinking you were talking about like Carmilla style vampires. not the currents in the occult world. as per usual Lilith is very much correct.

 

[Accipeveldare]

Do you believe vampires exist in any real occult or spiritual sense, such as psychic or energy vampires? Or is vampirism purely folklore and symbolism?

They do, but it depends on what you mean. There are entities that are vampiric in nature and then there are human practitioners that are also considered vampires due to their focus on energy manipulation and how they do it.

 

[A.Nox]

@Morell has more practical grounding on this than most folklore-heavy takes. If you want an actual conversation rather than aesthetics, talk to him

 

[OberonFromTheHills]

The archetypal vampire is a pretty recent construct that actually blends a lot of folk beliefs and historical figures.

The vampyre magician is also a very new thing that use the figure i mentionned above and mix it with energy work and left hand philosphy.

Vampiric tendencies (meaning sucking life force) is something that always existed, no matter if we talk about humans, spirits or witches/magicians. We just use the word "vampire" as a new term to categorize that act.

 

[JJB5]

What We Do in the Shadows

 

[Bob Lee]

There are vampire magic, but vampire as in an old Eastern European dude in a castle is probably not real (Maybe they are, stay woke)

 

[Accipeveldare]

@Morell has more practical grounding on this than most folklore-heavy takes. If you want an actual conversation rather than aesthetics, talk to him

Yes, agreed.

 

[Tiw_ru3]

I believe Dion Fortune recounted an incident with a vampire in her 1930 book Psychic Self-Defense. From my understanding there are, as others have said, both 'vampiric entities' (think Dab Tsog) and practitioners who practice what we would call vampiric energy magick. In this particular case Fortune references an incident right after World-War I where a veteran had a vampiric practitioner attached to him. Essentially, the practitioner was able to preserve his etheric body as a means to avoid final death. In that state, one must continuously feed on energy in order to maintain the etheric body. This is where the issue with sunlight comes into play. As a being without a physical body nor the other components of the subtle body, they are vulnerable to different energies and thus must attach themselves to someone or something. She stated in the book that it was a tradition that began in Egypt and made its way north and was essentially a relict practice in Eastern Europe. With that being said, they are relatively easy to dispatch by anyone with a decent understanding of energy work as long as they are away from their host.