Tools and such

[William66]

The other way, which I found is trickier, is to listen to the grimoire itself,

This is do. I have the tools, well Maybe i don’t understand every tools meaning fully but still i use it.

 

[William66]

Example, later on i will stop using the solomonic circle and use a heptameron circle for changing from solomonic to heptameron(Lucidarium). The writing on the Sword should be different, like in the Heptameron the sword is supposed to be written on one side Agla and the other side ON, yet the solomonic way is the same Godname but different name(yet the same), Adley told me a year ago using the solomonic sword for the heptameron (Lucidarium) works fine. Like the abramelin crown works with the solomonic system(like Aaron said), ute i bought the solomonic crown with the 4 Godnames written on it.

 

[8Lou1]

yeah those were the days and then your mum goes to egypt walks tru a wish gate in alexandria and takes home a djinn. now what??? i wish i could say more, but it really is my question. whether its about tools or a djinn who doesnt want to leave. how are you going to use these tools without creating a magick mess?. its not an attack but its what stops me often from persuing that path while im told im gifted.

 

[William66]

how are you going to use these tools without creating a magick mess?

With the help of God and his angels, doing it without God on your side, i think it is more ”you are at the mercy of the spirit”, with other words the demon choose to hurt you or not, but having God and his angels might stop the spirit(s) from making a mess, with other words, instead of being in the hand of the spirit(mercy of the spirit), i am at the hand of higher ones (God and the angels), as for the tools they could show that you are strict to the spirit and really dedicated and someone not to ”mess” around with, by having the sword concecrated, incenses, circle crown and such..

 

[William66]

yeah those were the days and then your mum goes to egypt walks tru a wish gate in alexandria and takes home a djinn. now what???

What do you mean, i don’t understand here.

 

[William66]

And when i’m talking about spirits, i mean demons. Since they can be tricky and powerful and evil(well most of them are evil fkers, even the big ones).

 

[Öwnchef]

... a djinn who doesnt want to leave.

Shaitan, ifrit or marid?

 

[8Lou1]

thanks that makes sense. if i understand well you let go of islam right. for me its strange as i walk my path in europe, because as a women in islam, standing for who i am and what i believe in, i end up in very dark occult islamic paths and views that show themselves in the world as lhp western occult tradition with some rhp dogmas. but since i live in europe, i dont need to adhere to religious form of dresscode or manner and that makes me green as in the green flag of saudi arabia. the things i dont speak of like any other spiritual being doesnt speak of its inner conversations with the divine, are under the banner of the black flag. its sometimes with beings from the solomonic sphere, but also with many others. strangely enough, i always end up with the satanic crowd and people who are attracted to spirits from the dark side of the tree. often these people are demonolators ( hope i clasify right) or people with bad pasts, whether as victim or as perpetrator.

so how can i combine that with the picture most people have of the higher realms. like holier then though angels, a god that condemns things normal people do, etc.?

 

[8Lou1]

@William: just a real question, because i have a djinn here that doesnt want to leave, but the communication between us is crap to say the least. between me and the djinn i mean. but hes starting to understand while i write.

 

[William66]

@William: just a real question, because i have a djinn here that doesnt want to leave, but the communication between us is crap to say the least. between me and the djinn i mean. but hes starting to understand while i write.

Well i have someone gifted in my family for communication so i would go by ouija, but if you aren't gifted, go by asking the spirit what the heck he wants lol, or start banishing it(prayers, lesser banishing rituals and incense asfateia and sulfur and such etc....

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

Letter magnets on a metal baking sheet?
Perhaps water or fire scrying?

There are big rectangular magnets you can get, that Arabic words could be painted on with whiteout or white paint.

 

[Öwnchef]

What do you mean, i don’t understand here.

Her mum went to the Whishing Well, a famous bride's gown shop in Alexandria, married a Jinn and went to Europe.

@Lou: Jinns cannot walk in or over holy water. Make a basin that is as broad as the main door. Fill with water, some centimeters are enough. Put Oud in. Go out and wait. When J. is outside draw the basin at its place. Done.

 

[Öwnchef]

I learned this from a Sheikh. He never travels without his basin.

 

[William66]

standing for who i am and what i believe in, i end up in very dark occult islamic paths and views

off topic yeah i understand this, if my friends knew what i was doing and started to blame me and those around me, i would prob have dark thoughts/ thoughts about doing them harm, i know many people (not personally) that have gone this road. Sad tho.

 

[8Lou1]

i find that, looking how that path enfolded, indeed a sad atrocity and humanity should be ashamed of its self for having the guts to create that.
now concerning my djinn here (that now understands my evilness. thanks to this conversation and nothing fucking more. ). no i didnt get him at the bride shop, the bride shop kicked him out.

 

[William66]

Yet the irony is that these grimories starts with purification(cleaning yourself outwards and inwards) prayers to God and doing good deeds and giving yourself to God), the irony is real.

 

[William66]

the bride shop kicked him out.

Nice to hear the bride shop kicked him out.

 

[8Lou1]

thats why i go iron my y. strangely enough my iron is steamy and makes my flesh rot and then suddenly those are djinn egg and you need to have faith to believe its real so, what is islamic in this area of expertise and you seem to have it too.,is the fact that we know the way of walking two paths in a marriage. thats what we call islamic illuminati here. if ever you come across a curse involving removing that shit, run.

 

[Öwnchef]

thats why i go iron my y. strangely enough my iron is steamy and makes my flesh rot and then suddenly those are djinn egg and you need to have faith to believe its real so, what is islamic in this area of expertise and you seem to have it too.,is the fact that we know the way of walking two paths in a marriage. thats what we call islamic illuminati here. if ever you come across a curse involving removing that shit, run.

Reminds me of a day I was talking with a Palestinian. He showed me a photo of his wife and newborn. Just as an old palestinian woman entered the store.

She: "Women evil! I know. I woman."

I have nothing to add. They torture women, they count sub zero in a pure man's world. Then the child is born. A prince! Oh so worthy for them. So important.
But at the full mercy of a woman aka mother. She will give him hell, the little bastard.
He grows up, now fears and hates women. They (except his mother) became sub zero for him. A circulus vitiosus. A never ending curse.

 

[8Lou1]

not even nothing is never ever ending nor and beginning!