Experiences/Rituals with Crystals.

[Bluesoft]

Hi Guys, i opened this thread to share all our experiences, works, info about our crystals. How do you interact with them? Feel free to share anything related to them, so we can work from other pointviews.

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In my case:
First of all, we start from the point that everything vibrates and has a rhythm, therefore, crystal are fount of vibration that will change the environment or your energy in someway.

All crystals cannot be cleaning up with soap and water. We have to investigate each of it.

You can clean them Materialistic and spiritualistic.
Materialistic: Physical.
Spiritualistic: By Energy/sounds/smoke.

I used to charge them with son or moonlight (Depends of which crystal is) or even placing in to the earth for a while.

Create a link between your crystal and you.. Spend time with it. I used to take a relaxed shower with them while meditate in water.


Something that I have notice from I added them to my life:

I'm more grounding
I Sleep Better
I can remember my dreams or have more control over them
I'm more relaxed and mind clear.



I'd like to add them to a ritual in the future.

 

[Roma]

Most crystals I see in shops have been brutalized with large hammers.

The first step is to heal the crystal. Offering heart light to the crystal often works and then the elemental of the crystal may well cooperate if asked nicely

I keep suitable stones and crystals in my tank of drinking water to improve the energy.

Every few months I take them all out to test again for suitability. Usually about a third are no longer good for my water. Am I improving or are they degrading?

So I put the rejects out in the sun, but few ever become suitable again

 

[initmul]

I don't really work with crystals, but in some odd way I do. For me, lots of what I'm doing on the small day-to-day magick-y level has to do with externalised memory or making my surroundings into a symbolic storage. I've got ADHD and I typically liken my mind to a cosmos filled with clockwork mechanisms where at least 10+ are constantly whirring and whizzing. To stay focused on what is important I started using stones as a child - this stone is for X, this stone is for Y, etc. When I see the stone, X (or Y) comes to the front of my mind.
That's how I use crystals and semi-precious stones. I link them up with a concept (e.g. strength, calm, Mother Earth, muladhara, ancestors, ...) and use them as occult post-it notes. Of course, they usually start having some power in them after a while, which is a nice side effect.
But I don't really limit myself to crystals. If it looks suitable it can be a pebble from the side of the road

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

When I was doing planetary invocation of the day, it was a Monday, so a white tealights sat on a Table of the Moon, an invocation to Gabriel and Luna was done, and my quartz crystal glowed a golden white color.
I would say they work provided with a correct method.

 

[initmul]

True, they work well with planetary stuff. I have two yellow agates (?) for my solar servitor, which vibe very well with its energy. Similar with onyx and Saturnian stuff.

But I personally think that this is less a matter of using crystals, precious stones, whatever correctly. It all depends entirely on the system you are working in. I've got a book on the use of stones in magic in 1st millennium BCE Mesopotamia, where they were used mainly for protection. But what definitely spans the millennia is that the ability to reflect light plays an important role with many crystals and precious stones.

I've also read somewhere that the crystalline structure is ideal for trapping spirits and energies.

 

[beardedeldridge]

99% of the new age stuff you see on crystals is mostly fluff (or rehashed watered down truth) to sell crystals/books and you would probably do better picking up some local “ordinary” rocks to work with near where you practice then to buy most of that stuff online.

That being said the use/virtues/correspondences of crystals (and rocks, plants, fragrances, etc) are tried and true ways to work magic that are included in trad grimoires (or often had trad grimoires included in them) and most religions/belief systems.

Personally I have used quite a wide selection over the years in rituals or in talisman creation according to their virtues and what I was trying to achieve. These days I mostly use quartz that I find here near the house. (Yep I have a solid quartz wand that I dug up in a trance in a downpour during a ritual. One of my favorite ritual tools tbh.)

-Eld

 

[Bluesoft]

Thank you for sharing your methods and believes about your crystal. It's very interesting for me understanding about how you guys use the differently. Appreciate it.

In my case, I use some of them to protect me before read some books and helping me to understand and get full the message of every book.
But i can notice u guys has lots more knowledge than me.

Any book that you can recommend ?

 

[Pyrokar]

Crystals are a scam.
However personal experiences are not.
If we started a community, and had a century or two of belief poured into ..beer bottles, would they eventually become magick?
is that not how we got up to this point?

Others here have smartly noticed that any pebble off the street would work, if not better than crystals -
But we speak of the items as being magickal from the start, if we instead charge or enchant
An item , different story entirely.

But you can't pick up a rock and go "oh yeah, this is the low blood pressure crystal, 10$"
you don't need a crystal. If you like them, then put in the work.
im talking real work, will and patience, Intimul's way is a good example.
Look at other precious metals, plant or animal resources, they certainly have their uses, and come prepackaged with magick
So why not pretty rocks? Well....why does it have to be pretty rocks? If none of the ancients ever brought them up much
How is it that the New Age figured it out? Certainly they may have spirits in them -but so too does everything else.
Yes, vibrations, i know, but why do that when you have so many mantrams and intonations designed for the purpose
and i don't see a way those would be weaker, not even when being generous.

The duality of the occult is such a bothersome thing, in this case - Ignorance is bliss.
Should a person just be told and accepts that crystals are the real deal, then they just might be - to that person.
If crystals are a go, then crystal orbs should be as well.

I want my crystal orb, damn it. and it better be red or im starting a formal religion with the sole purpose
of making crystals do the opposite effect of what they are supposed to do. or worse.
We'll call it.... The Brotherhood of Mineral Malice

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I have a solid quartz wand that I dug up in a trance in a downpour during a ritual

That's metal as fck. Im jealous.

 

[Roma]

Crystals are a scam.

"According to

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, General Electric's online tech magazine, this fusion reactor would be fueled by "a few tonnes" of deuterium (a heavy isotope of hydrogen) and lithium-6 (a stable molecule of lithium) in a crystalline structure -- hence the "dilithium crystal" claim. "

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As I recall Shakespeare: There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than dreamt of in your philosophy

 

[Robert Ramsay]

"It happened in Star Trek" is not a good justification for anything

 

[Roma]

It seems that Star Trek has greatly influenced the Artemis Accords published by NASA and currently signed by 25+ nations

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To be more precise, Star Trek was a soft disclosure intended to influence human thinking

And it has.

 

[Pyrokar]

I meant no offense @Roma
But i feel like you have not read my post in full.
Both in the case of your magazine and most of occult the crystals are modified.
With gold or silver you require almost no pre-work outside of cleansing to wash off whatever influences it came to you with.

It's not ego but sympathy, anyone can believe what they like and im not on a holy crusade to disprove crystals
Merely, as a mentalist i have seen and researched a vast amount of cases where crystals are being used in a predatory fashion.
Their history is virtually null before the New Age, and even then they are used for deception.
the crystals taken "as they are" are magickally inert,
And now as an Occultist It is my intention to help my fellow forum mates the best i can.

Take all the crystals you want. But instead of hoping they are effective simply put the work and effort to be sure that they are.
That was the sum total of what i wanted to say.
I certainly didn't deserve to be hit with a Shakespeare quote

 

[Roma]

the crystals taken "as they are" are magickally inert,

My own approach is to watch out for crystals and stones that are looking at me.

If they do not look at me they are generally of little use.

One time I went looking for a stone on a steep scree slope of Arthur's Seat in Edinburgh - where the energy stream enters from another planet. I finally found a stone with that energy.

The next day I was with a woman who had been unable to come with me to Arthur's Seat so I gave her the stone hold. After a minute she said the stone got so hot she almost dropped it.

 

[Xenophon]

"According to

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As I recall Shakespeare: There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than dreamt of in your philosophy

He was talking about crystals sold as adjuncts to magickal work. I think everyone in this thread is 1) aware that crystals have industrial uses; 2) aware that that topic is not the one at hand.

It used to be a dictum of rhetoric that one reply to the remark the other actually made in the sense the other made it. If I tell my kid "Strychnine is bad for you," when he's just spilled some on his fingers and is about to lick it off, it is sheer perverse irrelevancy for you to take the lad aside for a lecture on the medicinal uses of the chemical. So too with your pointless aside here.

 

[Roma]

He was talking about crystals sold as adjuncts to magickal work.

A number of accounts of alien craft that use crystal drives, indicate that consciousness is used in their management.

It may be that the magical world and the dense world are part of a spectrum rather than separate entities.

As above so below. As below, so above

 

[Xenophon]

A number of accounts of alien craft that use crystal drives, indicate that consciousness is used in their management.

It may be that the magical world and the dense world are part of a spectrum rather than separate entities.

As above so below. As below, so above

Does not matter. He was saying the crystal industry as it pertains to magick is a scam. (Which I have no real opinion on.) Remarks about crystals used in different settings for other purposes are beside the point. You hardly advance your case by dragging in questionable "accounts" of alien craft. The point under consideration is whether crystals are efficacious adjuncts to the arts folks calling themselves mage practice. A spectrum you say? And...? What works at one end of the spectrum is not necessarily much efficacious at the other. Just like some folks on the Alzheimer's spectrum are non-functional, others quite successful.

And please, we know: "as above so below." This hoary refrain scarcely clinches your case.

 

[Roma]

The philosophical problem with the statement

Crystals are a scam.

is that it is an absolute statement with no context hence overtly applying in all contexts.

It may be more useful to say that most of the commercially sold crystals, if they are to be useful in human spirituality, need quite a lot of work including healing of trauma.


The crystals have not ceased to belong energetically to the mineral kingdom with its overlighting deva. It is just that the functionality of those crystals is currently diminished

Once I put my attention to a quartz crystal and was surprised to see that its etheric nervous system extended throughout this galaxy - but not into the next galaxy.

Thus the crystal seemed to have instant communication with all of the quartz in this galaxy. What a useful property for those that can access it.

 

[Xenophon]

"It happened in Star Trek" is not a good justification for anything

Sometimes it's a good reason to stop watching Star Trek.

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I meant no offense @Roma
But i feel like you have not read my post in full.
Both in the case of your magazine and most of occult the crystals are modified.
With gold or silver you require almost no pre-work outside of cleansing to wash off whatever influences it came to you with.

It's not ego but sympathy, anyone can believe what they like and im not on a holy crusade to disprove crystals
Merely, as a mentalist i have seen and researched a vast amount of cases where crystals are being used in a predatory fashion.
Their history is virtually null before the New Age, and even then they are used for deception.
the crystals taken "as they are" are magickally inert,
And now as an Occultist It is my intention to help my fellow forum mates the best i can.

Take all the crystals you want. But instead of hoping they are effective simply put the work and effort to be sure that they are.
That was the sum total of what i wanted to say.
I certainly didn't deserve to be hit with a Shakespeare quote

I'll take being blast by the Bard's barbs over an RPG any day.

 

[Pyrokar]

I did provide context Roma. Besides this far into the thread it might be time to question
why do you care about the matter so much, since it clearly shook you a bit.
ALL commercially (if that's what we will call it) sold crystals are a scam.
I say that because i was in on the scam. Because i was schooled in how to scam using them.
However i am done debating this point.

But to return to the OP and his train of throught, with all that we have said (aside from my meddling)
they wouldn't really be useful in ritual fashion since whatever energies or spirits you call to your aid
might risk being trapped in the crystals - as stated above.
Actually if we are to use crystals in this context then we are using them as containers....
hmmm that's certainly not useless, but the operation would have to be different.

One might meditate on all the times they were truly happy/sad and then project that into the crystal?
If it's negate you drop in the crystal and get rid of it, if it's positive you keep it and when the time comes
You take that energy back?
As for the rhythm vibration thing, i would still argue a good mantra and intonation beats any crystal ever.

 

[Xenophon]

I did provide context Roma. Besides this far into the thread it might be time to question
why do you care about the matter so much, since it clearly shook you a bit.
ALL commercially (if that's what we will call it) sold crystals are a scam.
I say that because i was in on the scam. Because i was schooled in how to scam using them.
However i am done debating this point.

But to return to the OP and his train of throught, with all that we have said (aside from my meddling)
they wouldn't really be useful in ritual fashion since whatever energies or spirits you call to your aid
might risk being trapped in the crystals - as stated above.
Actually if we are to use crystals in this context then we are using them as containers....
hmmm that's certainly not useless, but the operation would have to be different.

One might meditate on all the times they were truly happy/sad and then project that into the crystal?
If it's negate you drop in the crystal and get rid of it, if it's positive you keep it and when the time comes
You take that energy back?
As for the rhythm vibration thing, i would still argue a good mantra and intonation beats any crystal ever.

"Shook" me? Heart attacks skake me. Ditto gun shots, typhoons, and earthquakes. I was mostly reacting to what I saw as obfuscation in some of the replies in this thread (not yours.) Neo-theosophizing sets my teeth on edge.