Killing with magick, always wrong or necessary sometimes?

[Shaman]

BALG is full of people who claim to have killed with magick or people looking for ways to kill. It honestly leaves a bad taste in mouth and makes me want to quit being an occultist. Even the spirit I work with the most specializes in killing (Vepar) but I would never ask them to kill for me. The question I wanted to ask is killing with magick totally wrong at all times or necessary for certain cases?

 

[Wildchildx11]

In cases where killing is morally justified such as if your life is in danger, I place my trust in the spirits I work with to intervene.

I think as one of the 10 commandments is "Thou shalt not kill" then as I'm using a lot of Christian mysticism and symbolism in my path, then I deem it as wrong for me to not kill.

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Basically, if I end up dying, through no will of my own, that means it is part of my path.

 

[Shaman]

In cases where killing is morally justified such as if your life is in danger, I place my trust in the spirits I work with to intervene.

I think as one of the 10 commandments is "Thou shalt not kill" then as I'm using a lot of Christian mysticism and symbolism in my path, then I deem it as wrong for me to not kill.

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Basically, if I end up dying, through no will of my own, that means it is part of my path.

I like this mentality not going to lie. I have read of people who have killed with magick over someone simply staring at them, IMO it's a misuse of magick. And also a life lost over basically nothing.

 

[Yazata]

people who claim to have killed with magick or people looking for ways to kill.

The edge is so sharp.. LMAO

Anyway. Before anybody starts sharing their death potion recipes or whatever, please take a look at the rules and don't discuss illegal activities

 

[Wildchildx11]

The edge is so sharp.. LMAO

Anyway. Before anybody starts sharing their death potion recipes or whatever, please take a look at the rules and don't discuss illegal activities

i am the heron. i haev a long neck and i pick fish out of the water w/ my beak. if you dont repost this comment on 10 other pages i will fly into your kitchen tonight and make a mess of your pots and pans

 

[Yazata]

What?

 

[Wildchildx11]

What?

It's a spell. You need to repost it or a heron will come into your kitchen and make a mess of your pots and pans.

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

Sometimes it is necessary. Sometimes bullies and slanderers will not let up, and there is only one way to permanently make them shut up.
Lots of damage can be done with words alone.
The power of life and death is in the tongue.

 

[Vandheer]

I would say I would gladly put a pedo in eternal torture.

Other than that, out of sight, out of mind. I will probably just relocate the troublemaker, if that is an option.

 

[Parallax]

BALG is full of people who claim to have killed with magick or people looking for ways to kill. It honestly leaves a bad taste in mouth and makes me want to quit being an occultist. Even the spirit I work with the most specializes in killing (Vepar) but I would never ask them to kill for me. The question I wanted to ask is killing with magick totally wrong at all times or necessary for certain cases?

Killing is generally unnecessary, that said, it’s really only wrong in terms of morality, which is always changing based on what ideology rules that generation.
Make your own choices and stick with them. If you choose to act, don’t bother to regret it and move forward.
That said I’ve never utilized magic to intentionally kill anyone.

 

[Rowena]

BALG is full of people who claim to have killed with magick or people looking for ways to kill. It honestly leaves a bad taste in mouth and makes me want to quit being an occultist. Even the spirit I work with the most specializes in killing (Vepar) but I would never ask them to kill for me. The question I wanted to ask is killing with magick totally wrong at all times or necessary for certain cases?

Killing is killing - magic, guns, knives, poison - the method does not alter the ethics or the morality of it.
If your moral compass says it's wrong, just don't do it.

 

[Konsciencia]

As for me, I don't think Killing is the answer, but if I am in danger. I'll send horrific Spirits to them. Or even better Astral Project and do it myself. There you go!

 

[Xenophon]

BALG is full of people who claim to have killed with magick or people looking for ways to kill. It honestly leaves a bad taste in mouth and makes me want to quit being an occultist. Even the spirit I work with the most specializes in killing (Vepar) but I would never ask them to kill for me. The question I wanted to ask is killing with magick totally wrong at all times or necessary for certain cases?

I tend to lump the "killers with magick" in the same category as guys in the bar who were "Navy SEALS." Someone who has actually been there and done that has (usually) no need to impress a bunch of us rubes.

 

[Taudefindi]

BALG is full of people who claim to have killed with magick or people looking for ways to kill

First ones must be "wannabe badasses", last ones probably are psycopaths.
No, seriously, who would ever see the claim of killing another(regardless if with magic or more mundane means) as something to brag about or feel proud of?

I don't have an issue with people killing for self-defense or defense of those around them, but to see the act of killing others as "something good"?Yikes, I certainly wouldn't want to be friends with such people, much less interact with them.

is killing with magick totally wrong at all times or necessary for certain cases?

"De-escalate" or "escape" are always the best options, "fight" is for last resort."Kill" only if you or someone else is in danger of being killed/attacked "right now".I personally see it the same way as I see it killing with mundane means: it's a means to an end(killing), and that's it.What happens next is more about how you feel yourself for killing someone.

I have read of people who have killed with magick over someone simply staring at them

Always doubt the words of others.Remember, we live in a society of image and most people always want to impress others or look cool.And for some reason they think that looking like a "killer" is cool.

The edge is so sharp.. LMAO

I don't think Killing is the answer

Best to use magic and whatever else you got in the bag to make them feel a sudden dread about you.Fear usually tends to be a much better tool to get rid of dangerous people.Because more often than not if they go against you it's because they don't fear you and think you're someone easy to deal with.

Make them suddenly feel an inexplicable fear and they'll go run far away from you.Problem solved.

please take a look at the rules and don't discuss illegal activities

Also, I think this discussion has become more about the morality of killing than the use of magic, so should this even be in this cathegory or should it be on the philosophy one?

 

[pixel_fortune]

BALG is full of people who claim to have killed with magick or people looking for ways to kill

Yeah, so one BALGer actually went and did it, murdered two sisters in a park and left a pact on their bodies asking for a million bucks or something. (google Wembley Park murders if you want to)

The judge was actually pretty good in the case. He basically said "Don't get distracted by the magic part. This man believed he was murdering two women in exchange for a large sum of money. That is the crime he is being sentenced for."

And that's the answer to your question: don't get distracted by the magic part. The question is the same as deciding when/if it's okay to kill a person without magic.

 

[Taudefindi]

Yeah, so one BALGer actually went and did it, murdered two sisters in a park and left a pact on their bodies asking for a million bucks or something. (google Wembley Park murders if you want to)

I did a quick read on the story...two lives lost because one animal(because people that kill others, without it being for self-defense, are animals in my eyes) decided that supernatural beigns were going to give him money.
Good thing there was justice, but still the loss of life, young lives at that...even if the guy spent the rest of his life stuck in a small concrete square until he died alone and miserable, it still wouldn't be enough to compensate the loss.

 

[Promise]

An acquaintance of mine over a few beers a while back told me that he had been rather upset when he found out his girl cheated on him with some guy that he'd met once or twice before. So, he decides to medium level curse the dude. Apparently this dude that got cursed was rather mentally unstable, and offs himself. True story BTW.

Would that be something like, "Manslaughter by curse"? I imagine that sort of thing, stronger effect than intended happens more often than just that one case. The curse slinger in this story didn't intend to kill the poor sap, just get some mild revenge. Does it matter that it wasn't his intention?

What if magick could be proven to be the cause in cases like this? With the increasing overlap of technology and things like energy healing ... we might see that day of curses being outlawed and detectable in 30 or 40 years.

 

[Shaman]

I am glad this forum oppposes killing with magick.. I am starting to hate BALG and want to leave permanently. All this talk about killing for petty reasons is making me so mad, why go to the point of killing? Just live and let live

 

[Xenophon]

I am glad this forum oppposes killing with magick.. I am starting to hate BALG and want to leave permanently. All this talk about killing for petty reasons is making me so mad, why go to the point of killing? Just live and let live

I oppose 1) wankers claiming they are able to do so; 2) killing for petty reasons. (And most murders are just that: fits of pique.) But I certainly don't condemn all violence out of hand.

 

[Shaman]

I oppose 1) wankers claiming they are able to do so; 2) killing for petty reasons. (And most murders are just that: fits of pique.) But I certainly don't condemn all violence out of hand.

I am seriously starting to fear people who can actually kill with magick. Do you have protections on you or something like that?