Book Discussion Anyone have experience with the Ars Notoria?

[HocusPocus]

I have bought a copy of the Ars Notoria by Matthias Castle which contains both versions A and B. I was wondering if anyone had experience with performing the rite and what your results were?

I am looking to see if I can gain higher IQ or perhaps some supernatural ability to understand things as promised in the books. Although it's a long undertaking so I'd appreciate anyone's experience with it.

 

[Pyrokar]

unfortunately, and sadly.
I do. pretty good at the whole concept if i do say so my self.
lets hold our hopes that there are more users viable to help while i sit in the back and ennnnnnnnjoy this unique opportunity
this blessed set of irony of the universe.

 

[Jackson]

You'd probably have been better off trying some simpler formula, "angels of omnipotence" or something like that.

I've reviewed the mess that is the originals years ago?

 

[HocusPocus]

You'd probably have been better off trying some simpler formula, "angels of omnipotence" or something like that.

I've reviewed the mess that is the originals years ago?

Oh really?

What was your experience with the Ars Notoria? Spotty results?

 

[Jackson]

What was your experience with the Ars Notoria? Spotty results?

That it was the most dissarayed medieval works I've ever layed eyes on if I haven't thoroughly tried something else.

 

[HocusPocus]

That it was the most dissarayed medieval works I've ever layed eyes on if I haven't thoroughly tried something else.

Yeah I have Matthias Castle's book and he talked alot about how Version A is a reconstruction of the Golden flower, and then Version B is a reconstruction of even that because alot was lost to time.

For the Angel of Omnipotence formulae, how would the results manifest if I were to ask? I already did an invocation to Kamael and asked. I also tried out some of the Mystical words of Power from the GOM series, as well as contemplation on their 72 Angels of Magick.

I seem to be experiencing some decent results but I'd like to see if there's anything to push me to 140.

 

[Jackson]

Training for the IQ test.

 

[HocusPocus]

Training for the IQ test.

Hmmh, thank you. That's disappointing to hear.

 

[beardedeldridge]

I’ve never known anyone who ever reported amazing results from it but then again I don’t know many (maybe any) who went all out with the system. Several who experimented with it at least some, but for the most part it’s on the to-do-list of most serious magicians I’ve known, including me.

-Eld

 

[HocusPocus]

I’ve never known anyone who ever reported amazing results from it but then again I don’t know many (maybe any) who went all out with the system. Several who experimented with it at least some, but for the most part it’s on the to-do-list of most serious magicians I’ve known, including me.

-Eld

What type of results DID they get if I may ask?

 

[Fausto]

I have bought a copy of the Ars Notoria by Matthias Castle which contains both versions A and B. I was wondering if anyone had experience with performing the rite and what your results were?

I am looking to see if I can gain higher IQ or perhaps some supernatural ability to understand things as promised in the books. Although it's a long undertaking so I'd appreciate anyone's experience with it.

With a book ??
I doubt.
Try genetic Engineering, it's easier.

 

[HocusPocus]

With a book ??
I doubt.
Try genetic Engineering, it's easier.

Yeah I wanted to check out and try out methods to see what worked, but I'm getting disparaging reviews

 

[Jackson]

Well by all means, I will be curious if you make more sense of it in the new release.

 

[Fausto]

Yeah I wanted to check out and try out methods to see what worked, but I'm getting disparaging reviews

If you want to boost your QI, I suggest you for finding a Spirit with such qualities too.

 

[HocusPocus]

Well by all means, I will be curious if you make more sense of it in the new release.

Matthias Castle's has a section specifically just as an informational where he breaks down the process for you based on each book, so it's actually easy to digest. As for the easy to do part ... well ... that's another story.

 

[beardedeldridge]

What type of results DID they get if I may ask?

Most said something along the line that a particular subject seemed to have gotten easier. Some in school said a grade improved. I think one reported improvement with a foreign language. So interesting but not miraculous “suddenly I knew ______” results.

From my very very limited experience, it felt like a connection was starting to be made. Like I said it’s on my bucket list but haven’t really gotten to it yet. Which seems to be a fairly common response from trad grim practitioners in my experience.

-Eld

 

[Abromoskot]

I recommend Skinner's books (version B for the practice), which seems very well done.

I will add that if the version you are reading has not the images (the notae themselves) like the Robert Turner edition, then it is of little use.

 

[HocusPocus]

Most said something along the line that a particular subject seemed to have gotten easier. Some in school said a grade improved. I think one reported improvement with a foreign language. So interesting but not miraculous “suddenly I knew ______” results.

From my very very limited experience, it felt like a connection was starting to be made. Like I said it’s on my bucket list but haven’t really gotten to it yet. Which seems to be a fairly common response from trad grim practitioners in my experience.

-Eld

Thanks you for your insight!

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I recommend Skinner's books (version B for the practice), which seems very well done.

I will add that if the version you are reading has not the images (the notae themselves) like the Robert Turner edition, then it is of little use.

It does have the Notae! In fact Matthias Black is one of the people that Mr.Skinner referenced to write his book.

Thanks for your advice.

 

[St. Stephen]

Bumping this thread in case any new users have any further insight