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Hello lads and gals !
My novice questions :
Is it possible and effective to program a servitor to repeat a statement on loop for the desired number of times on a daily basis ( lets say in the affinities of a couple of thousands times a day ) ?


Also..
Have any of you reached a desired outcome by using a servitor ?

How is a servitor different from an tulpa ?

Cheers;
Riad
 
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Hello lads and gals !
My novice questions :
Is it possible and effective to program a servitor to repeat a statement on loop for the desired number of times on a daily basis ( lets say in the affinities of a couple of thousands times a day ) ?


Also..
Have any of you reached a desired outcome by using a servitor ?

How is a servitor different from an tulpa ?

Cheers;
Riad
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Servitors are simple, tulpas are complex

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Hello lads and gals !
My novice questions :
Is it possible and effective to program a servitor to repeat a statement on loop for the desired number of times on a daily basis ( lets say in the affinities of a couple of thousands times a day ) ?


Also..
Have any of you reached a desired outcome by using a servitor ?

How is a servitor different from an tulpa ?

Cheers;
Riad
Yes
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Servitors are simple, tulpas are complex
 
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Thank you for your answer Mannimarco🙂
What would you say is the main difference between a tulpa and servitor , i have heard that a tulpa can get an autonomous consiousness and free will whilst others are of the opinion that the creator of a tulpa can always control it
 

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Thank you for your answer Mannimarco🙂
What would you say is the main difference between a tulpa and servitor , i have heard that a tulpa can get an autonomous consiousness and free will whilst others are of the opinion that the creator of a tulpa can always control it
I don't know, I don't care about theory or labels, I make servitors as powerful and complex as I possibly can, some of which I give emotions and personality, some of which I don't. Perhaps the former are considered tulpas, and the latter servitors. I haven't lost control of any of them yet, but I have had a fair few problems with the ones who have emotions. I don't see why having an autonomous consciousness would conflict with being controllable, humans in theory have autonomous consciousness and are almost entirely controlled like a herd of sheep. Same with free will, I don't think 99% of humans have a will worth calling free.

I'm not actually aware of a whole lot of "always's" in occult practice. In theory a cheetah can catch a gazelle, but a fast gazelle having a good day can escape a slow cheetah having a bad day. Some tulpa has certainly escaped the control of an occultist somewhere, but that means nothing to your own experience.
 

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Is it possible? Yes but to what end?

Desired outcome? Yes.

Servitor vs Tulpa? See Mannimarco & Rowena above.

Emotions, conscience, free will? For the love of whatever! Why?!? The only reason is to feed the practitioner’s ego. Don’t even get me started on the sheer problem in trying to adequately define the later two. (And a healthy amount of self delusion more times then not.)

*When doing anything occult, simple as possible to achieve the desired results is the answer.

-Eld
 

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Is it possible? Yes but to what end?

Desired outcome? Yes.

Servitor vs Tulpa? See Mannimarco & Rowena above.

Emotions, conscience, free will? For the love of whatever! Why?!? The only reason is to feed the practitioner’s ego. Don’t even get me started on the sheer problem in trying to adequately define the later two. (And a healthy amount of self delusion more times then not.)


*When doing anything occult, simple as possible to achieve the desired results is the answer.

-Eld


That is entirely in line with how i see things , we can implement various different techniques to achieve our aim but in the end all techniques and methods helps you to conceive and more importantly belief that you can reach a certain outcome . At a certain stage in the mages path or in a conscious individuals path everything becomes chaos magic although i dont like that term , because i truly believe we are allknowing and allbeing underneath all the levels of multidimensionell hypnosis that engulfs mankind. We only need methods and techniques when we want to convince our subconsiousness that a certain task is possible If we truly believed that we can achieve anything due the being everything on the most down scaled level we wouldnt have to rely on any system , technique or method .

So on the most realised level all magic is a reflection of self .
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And i also believe that practioners who rely on the support of entities to achieve certain outcomes arent as advanced as they think they are as that is akin to child who holds his fathers hand except in that analogy most parents love their child unconditionaly and want their child to reach even greater feats and heights than themselves , entities on the other hand want a relationship with humans where the human should know his place and never question the evolutionary ladder , entities want humans to conform to the balance of the matrix best described trough the Egyptian concept of maat

Ofcourse then theres the possibility to merge fully with an entity ( when it comes to the accepted pantheons of the world) but unless the individual belong to the reptilian soul collective in spirit , then a full identification with an entity is no different than a complete takeover
( possession) over the individual in favour of the entity that claims the possessed.
 
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The short answer to your first question is yes, the longer answer is "it feels like a more complicated solution than necessary". It sounds like you're trying to take a shortcut to integrating a mantra in your life, and I think you'd be better served by just repeating the mantra until it becomes instinctual. Servitors have a recipe, and that recipe includes a constant energy source. A well-made servitor generates its own energy as a byproduct of its work, letting you "set it and forget it". A basic recipe for the servitor you're describing would be "repeat this mantra, when I pay attention to the words, use some of that attention as energy to continue repeating the mantra". That's essentially what you're already doing by repeating a mantra, just with the extra step of viewing it as a servitor saying it instead of you. Just my opinion.

As far as the difference between a tulpa and a servitor: A servitor is easy (it's slightly more complex than a sigil, it's basically a sigil with a feedback loop to sustain it). A tulpa is more difficult, you need to actively engage with a tulpa constantly for some time before it takes on its own life, whereas a servitor can be set up once and then ignored. Servitors are also generally harmless, the worst they can do is die off because they weren't given a sustainable source of energy. A tulpa can become essentially a form of possession (I only believe this because I helped someone who suffered from it). It's worth mentioning that in some original practices, a tulpa is a temporary manifestation for the purpose of experiencing the subjectivity of reality and is meant to be dismissed after some time. A practitioner who can't dismiss the tulpa after it has shown itself is considered handicapped.
 

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The short answer to your first question is yes, the longer answer is "it feels like a more complicated solution than necessary". It sounds like you're trying to take a shortcut to integrating a mantra in your life, and I think you'd be better served by just repeating the mantra until it becomes instinctual. Servitors have a recipe, and that recipe includes a constant energy source. A well-made servitor generates its own energy as a byproduct of its work, letting you "set it and forget it". A basic recipe for the servitor you're describing would be "repeat this mantra, when I pay attention to the words, use some of that attention as energy to continue repeating the mantra". That's essentially what you're already doing by repeating a mantra, just with the extra step of viewing it as a servitor saying it instead of you. Just my opinion.

As far as the difference between a tulpa and a servitor: A servitor is easy (it's slightly more complex than a sigil, it's basically a sigil with a feedback loop to sustain it). A tulpa is more difficult, you need to actively engage with a tulpa constantly for some time before it takes on its own life, whereas a servitor can be set up once and then ignored. Servitors are also generally harmless, the worst they can do is die off because they weren't given a sustainable source of energy. A tulpa can become essentially a form of possession (I only believe this because I helped someone who suffered from it). It's worth mentioning that in some original practices, a tulpa is a temporary manifestation for the purpose of experiencing the subjectivity of reality and is meant to be dismissed after some time. A practitioner who can't dismiss the tulpa after it has shown itself is considered handicapped.

Thank you for taking the time to write that detailed response mate.
I will share my story because you asked and you definitely deserve to hear it after writing that informative response of yours


I will share my story below




My Name is Riad and here below is a little prelude to my background story outlining a

Chronological timeline explaining the free will aspect that have entangled me into a mess in more ways than one ...

As you'll find out throughout the information shared my situation is extremely convulated , sorry that the text is very confusing , but bear with me as a coherent narrative will build up towards the end .

I remember saying that certain forces could control my free will before i contacted Katie Leigh long time ago for a work where she acted as the middle man between me and certain entities one of the requests was that a force could control my free will as they see fit no matter what i say or do

So before i contacted Katie Leigh i remember giving my free will to
"Those who sent Matthew Delooze to deliver what he considered is the truth " about the nature of reality we exist in

One of those entities are referred to as the lady from one of Matthews books entitled you'll be wiser when your older , she is seen on one of the covers of that book

Another one was ( perhaps the husband to the lady if i recall right) but i refered to him as the Marlon Brandon or Superman lookalike from some of the ayahuascha articles that Matthew has written.

These are the main spiritual assistors of Matthew Delooze when viewed from the perspective of the mission he was assigned to spread on planet earth about the prison matrix we live in .

I cant recall but i might or might not have said that forces from or that represent the website oneballmedia could control my free will
( Oneballmedia was a website that Matthew Delooze operated in the past )

Then there was a blood ceremony that i carried out beside a river , i cant recall whom i invited to control my free will but some of the names already mentioned could perhaps been candidates in addition to ( maybe) the four Chiefs from Matthew Delooze's ayahuascha articles

In hindsight i cant remember if the river ceremony was before or after contacting Katie Leigh



But all problems started after i contacted Katie Leigh


So prior to contacting Katie Leigh i did give my free will to entities so they could control my free will , i wonder if those 3- 4 entities are entangled with one of the requests that i shared with Katie Leigh , also the way i worded the request when i contacted Katie Leigh was ambiguous becuse i didnt name the force that could control my free will so even if it wasnt the entities that Katie Leigh contacted on my behalf that control my free will the request that i wrote in my spell work that Katie Leigh petioned to entities on my behalf ( that request was that a certain force that has helped me intermittently when i lived with my mother could control my free will as they see fit no matter what i say or do ) was wide enough in its ramifications to perhaps be exploited by the forces that had already graced or disgraced me with their presence when i told Katie Leigh that there was a certain force that has helped me intermittently when i lived with my mother ( i didnt name this force for reasons that will become apparent as you read more of my story later on below) back then i was a Muslim so could other entities have taken advantage of the fact that i didnt name the force that helped me when i lived with my mother ...could ancestors have taken themselves the Liberty to capatilise on what i said to Katie in regards to the free will request , could it have been Allah ? Could it have been the the daemon in the head , could it have been st Germain ( i remember petioning st Germain way back ) becuse these entities that possess me are more than one , they often refeer to themselves as "we"

my name is Riad and i did something very careless and stupid many years back which was to hand over my free will to certain forces so they can do to me as they see fit no matter what i say or do , at first i thought that this force was my Allie , i did that when i contacted a witch that goes by the name of Katie Leigh in Wales , she acted as the intermediary between entities and myself trough a custom spell and it was one of the requests amongst many , my line of reasoning at the time was that the force was to act as measure of precaution if ir was a bad idea to contact Katie Leigh in the first place



Before i delve into my case i want to shine some further light in regards to the free will angle so you can understand how it has ( possibly ) entangled with the custom spell and to what degree and magnitude

continue prelude to my background story ...

In the past when asked Katie Leigh to act middle men between me and deities she consulted on my behalf
One of the requests was that i mentioned that there was a force that has helped me whilst i lived with my mother ( actually im not even sure if they have helped me whilst i was living with my mother, i only believed that because Matthew delooze said that invincible help will be sent intermittently to those who connects to his spiritual messages from the heart so i just assumed that this force had helped me whilst i lived with my mother without knowing so for certain - it was this force that i had in mind when i said it could control my free will but because i did some harmful commands and operations and linked them to trigger words i couldnt specify this force by name becuse Matthew Delooze himself and those connected to source was directly linked to the trigger words so i was ambitious becuse i didnt dare to name them by fear of activating trigger words back then - so im afraid that the universe might have interpreted that this force that helped me with whilst i lived with my mother was the Muslim god becuse i was religious up til i was around 18 the only other one i rember asking for help was St Germain , to this day i dont know who the universe thought i refered to when i said a certain force could control my free will.

My background story..

i have absolutely been tortured on and off to the extreme for close to a decade , please try to not count me out before you read a prewritten text by me that im going to paste here below..
reversal ritual ?

i did something very stupid many years back and up until recently i have tried to get rid of them on my own trough applying direct mind over matter techniques , but they have tried the hijack me by manipulating my thoughts or using my tounge whilst doing so in the past so i fear using that method and its usually against my believe to reach out for occult help but as im backed up against the wall and cornered its a good idea to fight fire with fire by hiring an occultist , becuse my problems started when i hired a witch to act as an intermediary between entities and me back then i told her that in return for fulling certain requests that the entities she contacted on my behalf could suck out my lifeforce from the throat for 12 consequtive weeks , they told me the full work would take 100 days to fulfill, after day 30 or so i had a nigtmare , i appeared to be in an underworld of some sort standing in hallway which was connected to some kind of edifice , screams crying for help could be heard from a distant room that i couldnt see , screams of the like Ive never heard before , it appeared an monster of some sort was absolutely devouring people , i awoke with a jolt with the hairs raised in the back of my neck and covered in cold sweet i understood that dream to be symbolic of that if i continued with the work that i was next in line to be devoured and that it would mean that my spiritual aspirations for seeking out truth and freedome would die and my senses would mostly be limited to seek a gratifying material life devoid of spiritual substance and nourishment, so i told them trough the witch to bugger off , it was shortly after then and only then that the entities talked to me internally and even used my tounge to speak and even went theor way to abuse me im more ways than one , at first i thought they were nice but as i discovered more and more my gullibility started to fade i soon came to the realisation that they would stop to nothing to torture me and keep me in absolute misery , it appears that they grew stronger in me in silence over the course of the 30 days .

Now heres where it becomes more convulated...one of the requests was that i allowed a power to control my free will any way they see fit no matter what i say , i now suspect that its this force that is causing havoc in my life , i did something something stupid prior aswell i connected certain commands and operations to trigger words , some of these operations caused me great pain and i didnt know how to resolve it back then and even the powers that i said could control my free will when i contacted the witch back then was also connected to some of these operations commands trough trigger words , so i didnt even dare to refeer to them by name when i contacted Katie Leigh , so instead i was somewhat ambivalent when refering to them when i contacted the witch , i said that there is a force that has helped me whilst i lived with my mother and that this force could control my free will i might or might not have specified that this force was not of the serpent or the sun but not giving anymore detailby refering to them by name so now i dont even know if the universe took it to mean the islam god ? Becuse i was living at my mothers place when i was young and i was a muslim back then ( im not religious now ) i also recall asking for the help of st germain when i was little and living at home with my mother ...other than that i cant think of any other name which were of unintentional nature , the force i refered to back then was those who sent Matthew Delooze to spread spiritual truth on earth but my experience with Katie Leigh has made me suspect everyone , even those i believed to be my spiritual allies st one time , many years went by and i contacted Katie Leigh again , i told her i wanted my lifeforce back , i can only hope that they didnt take it as that i meant i wanted to resume the work that stopped after day 30 or so becuse it was never my intent ( becuse one of the requests when i contacted Katie Leigh prior was healing ) what i meant with lifeforce was the one they sucked out from my throat , after clearing out any misunderstand trough Katie Leigh later on i told them trough her that i wanted nothing to do with them and that i wanted nothing from them throughout all time and that they couldnt take something that was uniquely my own before i contacted them for the very first time

But they said That it doesnt work like that and tricked me back then that it will be a power struggle until one of of us win over the other 😭😭😭😭😭😭

They lied to me


The witch said she contacted Rhiannon , mannawydan , mananan mclir , sons of hathor , bran the giant, i think she mentioned mercy and justice in some capacity ( kabbalistic tree of life ) if im not mistaken she also said she used some sort of a medium to establish a link ( if im not mistaken) i cant acess my former email adress so i cant read emails ...

Ps! if someone visits me trough obe's ( one time is allowed without asking permission. ) and notice that i talk with myself most times its either one or the other ....1.they have used my tounge or mind to utter words.
2. Im sick and tired of them doing so i just mumble random words as a way to block them

Or they provoke me and i get angry and it becomes a verbal war between us and to any outsider witnessing it ( if they visit me trough Astral projection that is ) it looks like im absolutely off my Rockers and completely insane.



Ps!Ohh and i forgot ..this force that was my Allie i continued to believe it up until 2 years or so , now i dont trust anyone and i suspect everyone , i must have ( in the past) uttered directly or indirectly that this force could control my free will maybe significantly north of 100.0000 times but the only difference this time around was that i dared to call them by name after i contacted Katie Leigh



Im in search for someone that can combine banishing with customspell/ soul contract breaking

Best
Riad

Below ill describe what im trying to achieve in detail...



1: If i have given my free will so it can be controlled by the lady that is seen on
one of the editions of the cover to Matthew Delooze's book titled "you'll be wiser when your older" then i want to retract all the times i have given her my free will so she cannot possess me .

Ps i will attach a picture so you can know how she looks like

2: If i have given my free will to Matthew Delooze so he can control me then i want to retract all the times i have given him my free will so he cannot possess me.

3: If i have given my free will so it can be controlled by the four Chiefs that is mentioned in Matthew Delooze's articles that describes his ayahuascha journies then i want to retract all the times i have given my free will to the four Chiefs so they cannot possess me.

Request 4: if i have given my free will so it can be controlled by the Marlon Brandon lookalike/ Supermans dad that appears in Matthew Delooze's articles that describes his ayahuascha journies then i want to retract all the times i have given him my free will so he cannot possess me .

Request 5: When i wrote to Katie Leigh many years ago i said words to the effects of ( i cant remember exact wording) but i wrote that a force that has helped me when i lived with my mother could control my free will as they see fit no matter i say or do , i regret saying that
so i want to retract all the times i have given this force my free will so it cannot possess me

Ps! Also this is important as a sidenote: if the force/ forces that is described in request number 5 above used my free will to invite anyone else to control my free will then i want to retract all the times i have given them my free will so they cannot possess me, they are not allowed to possess me.

Request 6: If i have given anyone my free will so they can control me then i want to retract all the times i have given them my free will so they cannot possess me.

Request 7 :Cant remember if i have given oneballmedia my free will to control me in the past but if i have given oneballmedia or oneballmedia representives my free will so they can control me then i want to retract all the times i have given them my free will, so they cannot possess me.

Request 8: I want to reverse all the work that Katie Leigh and the entities she contacted on my behalf did on me throughout all of my current lifetime : past, present and future as in they never influenced me to begin with.

Request 9: i contacted someone one called Cain a while ago so he could help me get rid of those who possess me my intent was that as far as requests are concerned i only wanted what is described in request number 6 and request 8 that you can see above in this email , i specifically told him that i didnt want any ritual baths of any sort yet he told me the entities he worked with filled me with holy Astral water , so i want to reverse the effect of holy Astral water as it never influenced me to begin with and i also never requested that deities could heal me trough contacting Cain so any healing performed on me trough the deities that Cain worked with must be reversed as in they never influenced me to begin with , becuse only Riad is allowed to heal myself.



10: I do not accept being initiated by anyone that has helped me in the past and i dont accept being initiated by anyone.

11: I contacted someone trough Etsy a while ago , he said he contacted micheal the archangel , the guy sent me a broschyr saying i would feel as being reborn and basking in light i never requested being reborn by baptism of any sort and i never asked to receive light
so if micheal the archangel performed a rebirth/ baptism ritual on me then i want it reversed as in it never influenced me to begin with and if Michael the archangel filled me with light then i want the light reversed as in it never influenced me to begin with.



12. I contacted Bertrance on Fiverr a while ago , becuse i forgot to mention my first condition in its entirety as its described in condition number 1 in this email post ( i only described an unfinished rendering of condition number 1 when i wrote to him)
Not only that but he wrote are you ready to begin ?
Then i wrote ok but before i responded "ok" then he had already written another post that went unnoticed to my eyes where he asked are you having any religion? ( I just noticed this post today when going trough our conversation trough the Fiverr app ,
so just an safety precaution to make sure that i didnt submit to the will of any god becuse it was never my intent to when i hired him i want my spirit to be informed of that,becuse if he contacted god then i want to reverse all the work Bertrance did on me as in he never influenced me to begin with, That statement does not mean that i didnt want the requests at the time i wrote to him because i did want them its just means it wasnt my intention and will to submit to any god in order to get them because to me there is no gods , also if Bertrance gave me anything extra beyond my 6 requests then i want to reverse it as in it never influenced me to begin with. that being said his work are not allowed to destroy all the requests that is mentioned in this email post to you and furthermore his work arent allowed to violate my two conditions that is mentioned in this email post to you.

14. if i have entered any contracts with anybody that entails me being possessed then i want to retract all my free will endorsements towards the contracts so that the contracts are reversed as in they never influenced me to begin with.


15. if i have entered any contracts that entailed me handing over my free will towards anybody then i want to retract my free will endorsements towards those contracts aswell as reverse those contracts as in they never influenced me to begin with.


16. I want all the 15 requests that is mentioned in this email post and the honouring of the 2 conditions that is also mentioned in this email post , i dont want any extra stuff beyond that.



Conditions follow below

1. I do not worship anyone that decides to help me becuse i believe that everything that exists and beyond originally came from a sort of a free zone that is all-knowing and allbeing in that very same free zone everyone is equal and free furthermore in that very same free zone there is no hierarchy of any kind and that very same free zone does not refeer to the reptilian mass collective consiousness and that very same free zone does not refeer to the reptilian spirit group complex and that very same free zone does not refeer to the reptilian soul complex and that very same free zone does not refeer to the Sun God and that very same free zone does not refeer to the Sun. I have not experienced that free zone in my current incarnation in my present lifetime but its my lifegoal to connect to that free zone and that free zone is allowed to help me succed in my life goal.

2: The majority of the collective subconsiousness have elevated certain forces to a degree that makes them free of any karmic repercussions if those very same forces decides to decieve or trick someone, i dont accept the majorities view in regards to that
so the forces that decides to help me are not allowed to use the power that the human collective subconsiousness has given it to decieve me becuse in my reality no one is allowed to decieve me, i dont accept being decieved by anyone .

Best
Riad
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So to cut a long story when i want to repeat certain statements , other entities has sometimes done one of the following :
Insert their own words in my statement before i a A.finish them ( by either using my tounge , mind or in rare cases ( hard to describe) but ive felt that they've written something in my heart )
B.Opposed my statement immidiately after i have finished it .
And my subconsiyousness is very open at times
And i constantly fear that my statements are hijacked .
In addition they have sometimes put me in a trance whilst i sleep and used my mind or tounge to utter or think sentences , these trances always wake me up , sometimes i remember the words they utter due to them doing so many times in succession and i get bloody furious , sometimes i just know that my tounge has been used to utter words but i cant discern all the words ( this puts enormous stress on my mind)
And sometimes ive felt that they reached me on a deep level as i feel a surge of waves that Wakes me up as a result of something deep they reprogrammed my mind with . ( This one ( the idea that they managed to do something to me without me knowing what )
puts me in state of umfathomable depression

Hence why i wanted a servitor to to repeat certain statements
 
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Please answer these questions if it isn't a bother:

1. What is the methodology you use to create a servitor? (including how to create it safely so that it can't harm you and others, what "security measures" should be used, etc). Also, is there a book/course that describes the method that you'd recommend?

2. What kind of servitors have you created before. To be more specific and narrow this down, if you are willing to share, what is the simplest task you've created a servitor for, and what is the most complicated task you've created a servitor for? (I'm asking this to see the scope of the limits I should use for my first test)

3. How do you dispel a servitor? (please give me both the planned way, and the "something went wrong, in a panic, need to dispose of it now" way)
 
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