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New Pope new hope?

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I'm slightly shocked anyone on here would give a shit about this subject.
Its a very powerful global political position. As clearily demonstrated during WWII. Pretty much all religious leaders have powerful global political positions.
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There we go. I am glad someone said it.
As sick as that is im curious of the motives of exactly why they were doing that. Some sort of ritual im unaware of?

As for what i want from the pope, it would be for him to have the balls to go against everything in the catholic church. I would not be upset if i seen it completely collapse. Just way to much evil going on with that entity to deny.
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Its a very powerful global political position. As clearily demonstrated during WWII. Pretty much all religious leaders have powerful global political positions.
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As sick as that is im curious of the motives of exactly why they were doing that. Some sort of ritual im unaware of?

As for what i want from the pope, it would be for him to have the balls to go against everything in the catholic church. I would not be upset if i seen it completely collapse. Just way to much evil going on with that entity to deny.
And of course make that library public, digitalize it and put it on MEGA lol.
 
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New pope? End. = 333💗333 aphrodite, divine feminine. Old? Trashed, unmade and transmuted.
 

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Please enlighten the simpler souls with what you mean.
The divine masculines time has been ended. It is now the time of the reign of the divine feminine.instead of fear, submission and aggression? There will be peace, love for all joy and peace. Will arrive subtly most will not notice. Will be heaven on earth this time confirmed. No longer will false gods drain source to feed the tree of life and tree of death. It is one. It is now the tree of love. For all.
 

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New pope is American and not particularly fond of "wokeness" but does seem to be kinda neo-Marxian to a degree aka not particularly fond of billionaires especially tech billionaires and seems to be pro working class of all stripes.

Nothing special or profound basically, as I've heard nothing regarding views on other belief systems. Just a singular notch in time.
 

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I've seen people online go from hating the woke globohomo Pope Francis towards cheering on the new "anti-gay" Pope. I can't imagine anyone believing in any type of "pope infallibility" unless they have rocks for brains or the attention span of a goldfish. It's no wonder that historically Catholics had not one but two major church splits.
 

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I've seen people online go from hating the woke globohomo Pope Francis towards cheering on the new "anti-gay" Pope. I can't imagine anyone believing in any type of "pope infallibility" unless they have rocks for brains or the attention span of a goldfish. It's no wonder that historically Catholics had not one but two major church splits.
Not a friend of Christianity at all but I was raised a Catholic so I know that the pope's infallibility only means that he's the final authority on dogmatic matters, not that he's super-wise and omniscient. As the old saying goes: Roma locuta, cause finita - Rome has spoken, case closed. The formal introduction of this principle has even lead to yet another split in the 19th century when the Old Catholic Church was established founded by those faithful who found themselves unable to accept the infallibilty doctrine. Thus the pope is the Catholics' court of final appeal, so to speak, not a fount of infinite spiritual wisdom by Church law.
 

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the pope's infallibility only means that he's the final authority on dogmatic matters, not that he's super-wise and omniscient
That was the point, nothing about being omniscient or infinite spiritual wisdom. Giving dogma on something that directly contradicts your original source text makes no sense.
 

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Giving dogma on something that directly contradicts your original source text makes no sense.
Isn't this what the original Protestants said before the split? These types of arguments within Christianity have occured since Jesus himself was alive so Id say it's pointless to make them.

Ask a Catholic why they think the Pope is infallible you'd probably get a response like "I'm a Christian, and this quasi- hierarchical way of expressing my faith of works for me!" Or something like that.
 

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Not a friend of Christianity at all but I was raised a Catholic so I know that the pope's infallibility only means that he's the final authority on dogmatic matters, not that he's super-wise and omniscient. As the old saying goes: Roma locuta, cause finita - Rome has spoken, case closed.
The issue lies in the establishment of the Papal Primacy issues of the early 6th Century, with the Pseudo-Symmachian Writings being taken as evidence. It took over 5 Centuries to find out they were forgeries, showing evidence that the other four Patriarchs bended the knee to Rome, yet this was actually not the case.
Thus the pope is the Catholics' court of final appeal, so to speak, not a fount of infinite spiritual wisdom by Church law.
Papal Infallibility and Papal Supremacy are also damning of why the East and West will never find common ground.
 

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Papal Infallibility and Papal Supremacy are also damning of why the East and West will never find common ground.

It's not just that. Not a single branch of Christianity -Even EASTERN Orthodox-, have acknowledged the concepts of Karma and Zen so it's all futile until that day happens, in my book at least.
 

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It's not just that. Not a single branch of Christianity -Even EASTERN Orthodox-, have acknowledged the concepts of Karma and Zen so it's all futile until that day happens, in my book at least.
Karma, definitely not.
Zen however is loose in interpretation. Some sources such as John Michael Greer has emphasized the similarities to Spiritual Contemplation to a Western Zen ideal. This was brought about by his works on the Gnostic Celtic Church for the AODA.

Personally, I have yet to find substance in the belief of Karma.
 

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Personally, I have yet to find substance in the belief of Karma.

People who live a balanced lifestyle and don't do anything extraordinarily "good" or "bad" may not have a "karmic moment" and live life accordingly.

Personally I've experienced lots of "Karmic moments" and find that behaving badly always results in the "boomerang effect" wheres behaving disruptive or antagonistically comes back around and bites you in the rear. Paying attention to behavioral patterns has mitigated "bad karma" and have not experienced karmic "boomerangs" in quite some time.

Some people just need to be more careful in what they do, and not experience bad karma.
 

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Karma, definitely not.
Zen however is loose in interpretation. Some sources such as John Michael Greer has emphasized the similarities to Spiritual Contemplation to a Western Zen ideal. This was brought about by his works on the Gnostic Celtic Church for the AODA.

Personally, I have yet to find substance in the belief of Karma.

I think the Pope and the Catholic hierarchy are able to tolerate zen (provided you leave out the 'buddhism' part) as long as Catholic zen doesn't become too broad a movement; there have been pioneers like
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who was both a Jesuit and a zen roshi and encouraged Christians to take up zen practice; to this day, zen workshops are offered by Catholic monasteries here and there. However, such phenomena are barely considered ok on the fringes of Catholicism and the Church (and the Pope as its ultimate enforcer) will do everything in its formidable power to prevent them from ever becoming mainstream.
 
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