If I am not my thoughts then who is creating the thoughts?

[alanford]

If I am the observer then who creates these thoughts in my head? Sometimes, I have up to 4 different personas in my head talking to each other about everything that happens in my life and all the ideas that I find interesting. Occasionally they remind each other that they are not real and then my head goes silent for half a minute. I am healing from my OCD significantly by grounding myself and accepting that my intrusive thoughts and thoughts in general are just thoughts and that I dont have to associate with them, but who creates them then? I feel that certain thoughts, which are neither compulsive or random like the ones I used to write all this stem from that inner me controlling them so I can talk in my head but Im unsure.

 

[Wintruz]

If I am the observer then who creates these thoughts in my head? Sometimes, I have up to 4 different personas in my head talking to each other about everything that happens in my life and all the ideas that I find interesting. Occasionally they remind each other that they are not real and then my head goes silent for half a minute. I am healing from my OCD significantly by grounding myself and accepting that my intrusive thoughts and thoughts in general are just thoughts and that I dont have to associate with them, but who creates them then? I feel that certain thoughts, which are neither compulsive or random like the ones I used to write all this stem from that inner me controlling them so I can talk in my head but Im unsure.

They are socially installed.

The mind is extremely malleable and because we are both meaning making and pattern seeking creatures, we weave a thousand contradictory, socially installed, fragments into grand ideas about ourselves and the world. This, all of it, has to be loosened sufficiently that we can at least know that we are not seeing clearly.

 

[Ziran]

If I am the observer then who creates these thoughts in my head?

There are 3 mutually exclusive entities involved in human perception:

Observer
Observed
Observation

You are the observer.
The object exists external to you.
The observation is the mental projection on the "mind's-eye", a sort of virtual, psychological, screen that exists in the human psyche.

However, there is an interesting edge-case for metaphysical concepts which is often exploited by occultists. In these cases, the observer IS the observed. Literally.

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I have up to 4 different personas in my head talking to each other about everything that happens in my life and all the ideas that I find interesting. Occasionally they remind each other that they are not real and then my head goes silent for half a minute. I am healing from my OCD significantly by grounding myself and accepting that my intrusive thoughts and thoughts in general are just thoughts and that I dont have to associate with them, but who creates them then? I feel that certain thoughts, which are neither compulsive or random like the ones I used to write all this stem from that inner me controlling them so I can talk in my head but Im unsure.

This is how I break it out:

You are the unique confluence of:

Your talents
Your flaws
Your affinities
Your aversions

You are not your thoughts. You are the one reacting to the thoughts and feelings which arise in the heart-and-mind, either spontaneously or triggered by sensory feedback, otherwise known as "the psyche".

 

[PinealisGlandia]

To put this in a more physical lens, modern science is revealing that thought is a field. I'm strapped for a good source at the moment, so you'll have to bear with my half-recalled youtube popsci, but basically: They can put a sensor a couple feet away from your body and it will still pick up your brain waves as an EMF (ElectroMagnetic Field). There's other science I've read that suggests the brain doesn't just broadcast, it receives. So your thoughts are a mixture of internally and externally generated fields interacting in your immediate space. This isn't very woowoo until you consider that it implies telepathy is happening pretty much constantly throughout the human experience.

I believe my source for this information is Bruce Lipton on youtube. He's an epigeneticist who has observed cells under a microscope responding to this field of thought, similar to the famous

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. Essentially, your body responds to your thoughts, but only a fraction of what you "think" really comes from yourself. A lot of it is baggage programs installed by people in your life, little moments in childhood or your early career that influenced you and are now still floating in that sphere of thought unaddressed. Some of it is internally generated, but it's the quiet part.

Let's make this a little more woowoo. Everything has an EMF. So everything interacts with your thought-bubble EMF. So it's not just people, it's objects too. It kinda brings some physical grounding to the idea that there's a spirit inside of everything. Speculatively, if we imagine that "thought" or "consciousness" manifests as an EMF, we could imagine that everything with an EMF is conscious, suggesting thoughts can affect inorganic matter (as demonstrated in the ice crystal experiments).

Of course, the real answer to your question is: It's you, it's just not you-The-Body-you. It's the divine essence that manifested as your body, which isn't substantially different from the divine essence that manifests as any given other thing. That divine essence is what generates all thoughts and consciousness, matter reflects those thoughts.

If "divine essence" puts anyone's backs up, you could rewrite that sentence as "The Force" (like Star Wars). It's an omnipresent invisible "stuff" that links everything in existence together and is responsible for everything. It wasn't put there by another entity, everything was put where it is by it. And it is you, and me, and everyone and everything we know, so on the one hand, it's not God, but on the other hand, it is, meaning this message is a memo from God (me) to theirself (you).