Death Cults, Blood Magick and Demonic Posessions!!!

[Audiolog Edu]

Ok I have made one similar post about this topic, but now I learned more about it and wanted to write about it, many people in the older thread I made about this where saying I was wrong, but now a new video poped in my Youtube feed by Occult teacher Gigi Young, you can find her in Youtube by her name and the title of her video is "OCCULTED: The Birth of the Death Cult, The Mystery of Blood & Paganism" I am through half of her video and I felt very tempted to start the discussion here about it.

She talks about how humans where more psychic and clairvoyant during the Pagan era, she also said that the Pagan era had a Golden era and then came the decay of the Pagan era, bringing Christ. She explains that during the decay of the Pagan era many humans became perverted and started doing things like Sex Magick, Blood Sacrifice, Death Cults, Animal Sacrifices, etc. she also explains that humans became more demonically posessed, or influenced by demonic forces, because the moral of their societies where in decadence. She explains as well that not everyone was this way, and she explains for example how some pagans became immortal by having good spirituality, she also explains that before Christ, shamans and Kings where in contact with Angels and with the incarnation of Christ individualisation became a thing, she means that now we would sacrifice ourselves by being good, by giving up a vice, by practicing White Magick Rituals so the individual could be closer to God.

This makes me think are evil people like african american gangsters, mexican cartels, maybe italian, chinese or even japanese mafias influenced by demonic forces?
I have seen a lot of Rap and Hip Hop where they do seem to "worship" the Devil, mexican cartels totally do blood sacrifices, cannibalism, they have weird Saints who are of a very dark nature, they force women and children into prostitution making our streets full of degenerates and sick minded people, about italian, chinese and other mafias I dont really know a lot of but does it really matter? I mean they do degenerate stuff, they kill their enemies with cruelty, they engage in forced prostitution, etc.
I do notice something from the people I named, and that would be they are like "cults", or "societies" that regular people can join but once inside you got to act according to the code of conduct.

 

[barbhack80]

during what we know in history as 'the dark ages' many areas of europe were free of christian domination. particularly the uk where after the period of roman-christian 'rule' there was a long period from about the years 400 to 1000 when paganism was dominant. it did not keep records but we know of its legacy from other items. the uk was subjected to norse religions during the viking era when the vikings ruled half of england for 250 years. christianity began to gain some growth around 800 in the saxon controlled areas in the south but it wasnt until the french-norman-catholic invasion in 1066 that christianity was able to establish itself as the main religion in the uk. it ruled until the reformations of 1450-1650 when protestantism became dominant as it did over most of western europe.

 

[HoldAll]

Could you please make your headings less lurid? First we had "Attacked by Black Magick!!!", then "I am under psychic attack and need help!!!", and I think before that there was a similarly headed post with three exclamation marks. So if you insist on sharing your thoughts on random youtube videos, at least give your headings more sober titles, they read like Satanic Panic clickbait to shock Christian fundie grannies with.

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[Morell]

I'm 30 minutes into the video and I already guessed that girl is from USA and probably Christian or ex-Christian. Also she is, kindly said, not worth the time. She knows nothing about Paganism in history. She idealizes the past, it was never as she things. Group mind of pagans? No. We lost our higher senses? No. People were less corrupted? No. Pagans didn't do sacrifices of animals and humans? Sorry, but they did.

Are mafias influenced by demonic forces? No. Some might be on the way to become monsters and demons themselves, but no, they are not controlled by some forces of evil that seek to torment humanity. We do that ourselves.

If you want to get decent info on the occult past, watch Esoterica.

 

[Dona]

Gigi Young is not an academic. Human societies do decay morally at times, and some people do horrific things. But human behavior is shaped by both genetics and environment .
A lack of empathy can distort not only our relationships but also our spiritual or occult practices, drawing us toward control and harm rather than understanding. There’s a difference between confronting necessary darkness that helps us grow and indulging in unnecessary cruelty.
Blaming demons for all our inner turmoil keeps us from real healing. True growth begins with shadow work: accepting our flaws, understanding our impulses, and choosing to act consciously.
From your posts, you seem very focused on black magicians, curses, and attacks. Maybe ask yourself :are you accepting all parts of your existence without being crushed or terrified by them? Did you perhaps wrong someone and are now projecting paranoia outward?
Take this as an opportunity for reflection,therapy, grounding, learning about protection, shielding,self exorcism, healing practices can help you much more than fear-based thinking.

 

[IllusiveOwl]

Is the extent of your occult research watching YouTube videos...?

 

[Dona]

Gigi Young is not an academic. Human societies do decay morally at times, and some people do horrific things. But human behavior is shaped by both genetics and environment .
A lack of empathy can distort not only our relationships but also our spiritual or occult practices, drawing us toward control and harm rather than understanding. There’s a difference between confronting necessary darkness that helps us grow and indulging in unnecessary cruelty.
Blaming demons for all our inner turmoil keeps us from real healing. True growth begins with shadow work: accepting our flaws, understanding our impulses, and choosing to act consciously.
From your posts, you seem very focused on black magicians, curses, and attacks. Maybe ask yourself :are you accepting all parts of your existence without being crushed or terrified by them? Did you perhaps wrong someone and are now projecting paranoia outward?
Take this as an opportunity for reflection,therapy, grounding, learning about protection, shielding,self exorcism, healing practices can help you much more than fear-based thinking.

Better youtube channels
@TheEsotericaChannel
@drangelapuca
@ReligionForBreakfast
@LetsTalkReligion
@studybuddhism

 

[Morell]

Also comes to mind: (but not that good as above ones)
@JeremiahSchwartz47
@SephirahShamanism

Or even less quality... but still not whole trash
@morgueofficial (since you seem to like Christianity, you might like this one)

 

[Faria]

This makes me think are evil people like african american gangsters... [ ] ...influenced by demonic forces?

If by "demonic forces" you mean the US Government, then yes. I was heavily involved with Gangsta Disciples as a young person. We got everything a bad guy could possibly want: free drugs, free guns, and freedom from prosecution. We had a whole box of Tec9's with the serials removed, and huge amounts of all sorts of drugs that we either gave out free or sold. We lived crime 24/7 every single day. I have no way to be certain, but I'm pretty sure my little clique was one of the most prolific criminal groups in the Mid-South for several years running. None of us ever got in any trouble for it. We were always encouraged to play into the superstitions regarding demons and magic symbols. I was the guy who would fix them up with demonic pacts, allowing them to take the last steps into total fearless abandonment of all moral restrictions. People would just drive down the freeway shooting at random, hundreds of carjacking, truck robberies, forced entry, thefts, every imaginable manner of violence and not a single fuck given, because they were all encouraged to praise Satan and be as evil as possible. None of that would have happened without the FBI providing massive amounts of material support and explicit encouragement toward crime. It wasn't demons or even demonic rap music, it was the feds at the root of it.

 

[MorganBlack]

Chiming in.

Morell is right. I also want to add, it's a taxonomy problem, as we all try to models human consciousness - and our interaction with what I call 'The Mystery', in whatever mythic context.

I get how she speaks is super grating to our ears. She's also speaking from a highly specific Rudolph Steiner esoteric framework, which makes more sense in those models. It's how she's organized her understanding. Taking them, any of them we use, out of mythic context to a more general one is usually not useful .

The process of human evolution out of the primordial slime does not make the slime "pagan." Jungian Individuation is a better model for our grasping to hold onto individuality , to mantain individual consciousness and free will, and not fall back to sleep back into the undifferentiated "primitive" mass mind.

It's quite unfair to characterize people who are pagans with the same taxonomic brush. Nobody is dissolving themselves into unconscious slime, last time I checked.

 

[Dona]

If by "demonic forces" you mean the US Government, then yes. I was heavily involved with Gangsta Disciples as a young person. We got everything a bad guy could possibly want: free drugs, free guns, and freedom from prosecution. We had a whole box of Tec9's with the serials removed, and huge amounts of all sorts of drugs that we either gave out free or sold. We lived crime 24/7 every single day. I have no way to be certain, but I'm pretty sure my little clique was one of the most prolific criminal groups in the Mid-South for several years running. None of us ever got in any trouble for it. We were always encouraged to play into the superstitions regarding demons and magic symbols. I was the guy who would fix them up with demonic pacts, allowing them to take the last steps into total fearless abandonment of all moral restrictions. People would just drive down the freeway shooting at random, hundreds of carjacking, truck robberies, forced entry, thefts, every imaginable manner of violence and not a single fuck given, because they were all encouraged to praise Satan and be as evil as possible. None of that would have happened without the FBI providing massive amounts of material support and explicit encouragement toward crime. It wasn't demons or even demonic rap music, it was the feds at the root of it.

How has your spiritual practice evolved since then, and what pitfalls do you think someone should avoid?

 

[Faria]

How has your spiritual practice evolved since then, and what pitfalls do you think someone should avoid?

I have long since abandoned the southern Hoodoo scene in pursuit of more traditional grimoire work. Most of the people I knew back then are either shot dead long ago, or got on drugs, and none of them live a life I'd want to have. Definitely avoid that stuff.

 

[MorganBlack]

Yep yep, Everyone I know who conjures the daimons into their most hostile and aggressive chthonic manifestations are mostly all quite dead. So the more 'Solomonic' side of our practice is not wrong. Not without danger. FYI, This does not apply to the kinder Demonoloatry manifestations. So keep rocking it, ya'll. But even in that practice (folk religion??) they will talk about the 'Tower Moment' they sometimes get to help their own evolution. Using my lens, Wrathful Bhuddas be wrathful sometimes.

 

[sahgwa]

I am chiming my two cents here. I like a lot of what Gigi Young says, but she is very blinders-on when it comes to discussion of the occult in general.

I enjoy and agree with many of her thoughts on energy, vibration, frequency, and the search for sovereignty in the individual.
That said, she comes at the occult from a very narrow perspective of a Rudolph Steinerist, an Anthroposophical point of view.
She has not really researched the occult from the practitioner's point of view, and is more tuned into the holistic, psychic and New Age paradigm of 'higher energies' and 'positivity.

She has a lot of good things, in regards to energy work, chakras, frequency of the universe, but I disagree (I think) with her in a lot of the Anthroposophical things, like planets as multidimensional beings that are undergoing evolution alongside sentient humanity.
More than that, she knows nothing about Crowley or standard traditional LHP practises.

So it's like, watch with a grain of salt. Or even a salt circle. lol

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Ok I have made one similar post about this topic, but now I learned more about it and wanted to write about it, many people in the older thread I made about this where saying I was wrong, but now a new video poped in my Youtube feed by Occult teacher Gigi Young, you can find her in Youtube by her name and the title of her video is "OCCULTED: The Birth of the Death Cult, The Mystery of Blood & Paganism" I am through half of her video and I felt very tempted to start the discussion here about it.

She talks about how humans where more psychic and clairvoyant during the Pagan era, she also said that the Pagan era had a Golden era and then came the decay of the Pagan era, bringing Christ. She explains that during the decay of the Pagan era many humans became perverted and started doing things like Sex Magick, Blood Sacrifice, Death Cults, Animal Sacrifices, etc. she also explains that humans became more demonically posessed, or influenced by demonic forces, because the moral of their societies where in decadence. She explains as well that not everyone was this way, and she explains for example how some pagans became immortal by having good spirituality, she also explains that before Christ, shamans and Kings where in contact with Angels and with the incarnation of Christ individualisation became a thing, she means that now we would sacrifice ourselves by being good, by giving up a vice, by practicing White Magick Rituals so the individual could be closer to God.

This makes me think are evil people like african american gangsters, mexican cartels, maybe italian, chinese or even japanese mafias influenced by demonic forces?
I have seen a lot of Rap and Hip Hop where they do seem to "worship" the Devil, mexican cartels totally do blood sacrifices, cannibalism, they have weird Saints who are of a very dark nature, they force women and children into prostitution making our streets full of degenerates and sick minded people, about italian, chinese and other mafias I dont really know a lot of but does it really matter? I mean they do degenerate stuff, they kill their enemies with cruelty, they engage in forced prostitution, etc.
I do notice something from the people I named, and that would be they are like "cults", or "societies" that regular people can join but once inside you got to act according to the code of conduct.

All humans have the choice to do 'good' or 'evil' ; it has generally nothing to do with demons, or possession, and more to do with what they choose to glorify and focus on. Human attention, imagination, and energy is extremely powerful, and if rappers are glorifying 'demons' then it's just for the power trip it gives them over weak minded individuals who also don't know what they are talking about. I mean, that's obvious, right?

 

[FireBorn]

Could you please make your headings less lurid? First we had "Attacked by Black Magick!!!", then "I am under psychic attack and need help!!!", and I think before that there was a similarly headed post with three exclamation marks. So if you insist on sharing your thoughts on random youtube videos, at least give your headings more sober titles, they read like Satanic Panic clickbait to shock Christian fundie grannies with.

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Yeah man, I got all excited thinking I could join some badass group or something.

 

[Audiolog Edu]

Most of you discredit Gigi, but she says almost the same thing as Joshephine Mc Carthy said on her book "The Exorcist Manual" so I do think people or society can be influenced by external forces, as well she says that these entities feed on negative feelings and emotions, like psychic vampires, so I still belive Gigi, thank you.

 

[MorganBlack]

Audiolog Edu, don't be sad!

Steiner is using the word 'pagan' differently than how we have come to think of it. This called a 'non-argument argument.' Literally talking about separate things that do not overlap.

And Steiner was writing this a whole 30 years before modern pagan revivalism sprouted from Gerald Gardner's loins.

Here. From 1919. Gardner's first book was not published until the 1950's.

'Lucifer and Ahriman '

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[Audiolog Edu]

Audiolog Edu, don't be sad!

Steiner is using the word 'pagan' differently than how we have come to think of it. This called a 'non-argument argument.' Literally talking about separate things that do not overlap.

And Steiner was writing this a whole 30 years before modern pagan revivalism sprouted from Gerald Gardner's loins.

Here. From 1919. Gardner's first book was not published until the 1950's.

'Lucifer and Ahriman '

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The thing is I always get discredited by the same losers in this forum, so I am trying to see if new people where interested in commenting, I notice some of my other threads have new people commenting.

 

[silencewaits]

Ok I have made one similar post about this topic, but now I learned more about it and wanted to write about it, many people in the older thread I made about this where saying I was wrong, but now a new video poped in my Youtube feed by Occult teacher Gigi Young, you can find her in Youtube by her name and the title of her video is "OCCULTED: The Birth of the Death Cult, The Mystery of Blood & Paganism" I am through half of her video and I felt very tempted to start the discussion here about it.

She talks about how humans where more psychic and clairvoyant during the Pagan era, she also said that the Pagan era had a Golden era and then came the decay of the Pagan era, bringing Christ. She explains that during the decay of the Pagan era many humans became perverted and started doing things like Sex Magick, Blood Sacrifice, Death Cults, Animal Sacrifices, etc. she also explains that humans became more demonically posessed, or influenced by demonic forces, because the moral of their societies where in decadence. She explains as well that not everyone was this way, and she explains for example how some pagans became immortal by having good spirituality, she also explains that before Christ, shamans and Kings where in contact with Angels and with the incarnation of Christ individualisation became a thing, she means that now we would sacrifice ourselves by being good, by giving up a vice, by practicing White Magick Rituals so the individual could be closer to God.

This makes me think are evil people like african american gangsters, mexican cartels, maybe italian, chinese or even japanese mafias influenced by demonic forces?
I have seen a lot of Rap and Hip Hop where they do seem to "worship" the Devil, mexican cartels totally do blood sacrifices, cannibalism, they have weird Saints who are of a very dark nature, they force women and children into prostitution making our streets full of degenerates and sick minded people, about italian, chinese and other mafias I dont really know a lot of but does it really matter? I mean they do degenerate stuff, they kill their enemies with cruelty, they engage in forced prostitution, etc.
I do notice something from the people I named, and that would be they are like "cults", or "societies" that regular people can join but once inside you got to act according to the code of conduct.

This is some white-light hippie-dippy perspective. There is nothing inherently evil about sex magic, blood sacrifice, death cults, animal sacrifices, etc. Sex can be destructive if it is indulged out of vice or addiction--or if they possess some sort of sexual perversion (the modern serial killer), blood sacrifice can be used to fuel someone's perversions of personal nature as well, death is as sacred as life--you cannot have one without the other, and the Sons of Abraham also practiced animal sacrifice at one point. 'Pagan' morality is folk morality, common law. If you are dishonorable you are exiled or rightfully killed. Perhaps sacrificed. What do people call for when someone rapes another, if they are not scum themselves? What does the force of modern law and order try to restrain? ("mob justice") The rest of that is revisionist bullshit like neo-druidry. They (the Druids) spilled blood often, and with intention.

I can't say much for the Mafiosos, Triad members, or the Yakuza, but a lot of "African-American gangsters" (who are in my experience often and not always exclusively Black) tend to be religious or reverent people. Folk saints are bigger phenomenon in Mexico than just among the narcos. As for the "degenerate" stuff they do? It's just that. Humans are violent creatures. We are tribal, territorial, and ultraviolent. It's how a warrior can kiss their kids goodnight and be a loving husband and then go dissolve the enemies of his tribe, gang, or set in acid. Most modern humans have excluded this nature, and cast it into the darkness. Those who live in the darkness of poverty or socio-economic isolation tend to experience the darkness more than anything. Morality is weakness, as most around them exists by the law of the jungle. Whether that jungle be a literal jungle or a concrete one. The status of being dark and dangerous--having money, guns, and fun spreads. Suburban white boys want some of the glamor. Some poor kid out in the mountains of Mexico wants some money and a Cuerno de Chivos. A wimpy Chinese kid is inducted into the Black Society by his brother in Sacramento, becoming a tiger.

What is 'demonic' may be pagan, or it may be the worst of humanity. How many pedos survive in Christian churches; ask a Blood what they do to a diddler on their block.

If by "demonic forces" you mean the US Government, then yes. I was heavily involved with Gangsta Disciples as a young person. We got everything a bad guy could possibly want: free drugs, free guns, and freedom from prosecution. We had a whole box of Tec9's with the serials removed, and huge amounts of all sorts of drugs that we either gave out free or sold. We lived crime 24/7 every single day. I have no way to be certain, but I'm pretty sure my little clique was one of the most prolific criminal groups in the Mid-South for several years running. None of us ever got in any trouble for it. We were always encouraged to play into the superstitions regarding demons and magic symbols. I was the guy who would fix them up with demonic pacts, allowing them to take the last steps into total fearless abandonment of all moral restrictions. People would just drive down the freeway shooting at random, hundreds of carjacking, truck robberies, forced entry, thefts, every imaginable manner of violence and not a single fuck given, because they were all encouraged to praise Satan and be as evil as possible. None of that would have happened without the FBI providing massive amounts of material support and explicit encouragement toward crime. It wasn't demons or even demonic rap music, it was the feds at the root of it.

 

[Audiolog Edu]

Is the extent of your occult research watching YouTube videos...?

Why dont you go F yourself fag?