Seeking Recommendation Any (English) books that mention the Zuhri?

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A niche topic, to be sure, but maybe you came across something in your readings?

And before anyone asks, yes I have been told I have the markers, but not in my palms.

If it's real or not, I have no clue, but I do have a Familiar, most would say that's a cluepon, but to me so what, I didn't most of my life.

Sedim Haba said:

(is this the right place for this? If not please move)

A niche topic, to be sure, but maybe you came across something in your readings?

And before anyone asks, yes I have been told I have the markers, but not in my palms.

If it's real or not, I have no clue, but I do have a Familiar, most would say that's a cluepon, but to me so what, I didn't most of my life.

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Only the person, not the Djinn. Mamar ibn Rashid mentions Ibn Shihab al Zuhri's work and contribution with Hadith literature.

Bumpy. I'm looking for info on the Zuhri Person, not the Hadith commentator. Most results are in Arabic or French.

AKA terms like "Majnun" (possessed), "Mamsur" (touched by Jinn), or simply "Walad al-Jinn" (Child of the Jinn).

A niche topic, to be sure, but maybe you came across something in your readings?

I'm looking for info on the Zuhri Person, not the Hadith commentator. Most results are in Arabic or French.

Now, Zuhri is a North African word, may also be known with terms like "Majnun" (possessed), "Mamsur" (touched by Jinn), or simply

"Walad al-Jinn" (Child of the Jinn). This is not about regular Jinn possession, or the Qareen (but info on the Qareen is related & welcome)

I don't recall any of the major English books on Jinn having much or anything at all to say about the Zuhri. There's this paper I found whilst researching, that mentions them, but it's not much.

Thanks!

Yes, that's what happens to Zhuri people in North Africa...

Also, I have a question. I recall seeing a video in Arabic, I think - about Samsama'il/Samael and the Zuhri. Are angels conjured in conjunction or utilised alongside the Zuhri by any chance?

Well, let me state up-front I am not an expert in Islam, outside of my niche interest in all things Jinn.

What I know least about: Samsama'il/Samael is in both Islam and Judaism a powerful Dark Angel, not a fallen angel as is commonly claimed

in Xian Angelology; which the only one of the three faith groups that believes angels can 'fall'. What possible connection he has to Zuhri, IDK.


In Islam, as I understand it, there are five angels associated with each human. The first comes 40 days after conception, but what exactly this

angel does is debated. Two Recording Angels accompany the human throughout their life, one is recording good deeds, the other bad deeds.

Also there are two Guardian Angels, one for daytime, one for night. In addition there is a special type of Jinn (Qareen) that is also connected to

the human, this Jinn's role is to be a tempter to present sins to the human. I won't go further into that, as what I personally believe is a bit

different than normal 'canon' Islam. But it's important to know that unlike the angels, Jinn have free will.


Now as to the interaction of these five angels and Qareen with the Zuhri/Mamsur it would stand to reason that they would have different roles

because such an individual is not 100% human but part Jinn. I do know that individual has a different relationship with their Qareen, but what

the differences the five angels would have because of that I do not know.

I just shared the 2 volumes that my search turned up on this specific topic.

(Protect Yourself from the Jinn and Shaytan & Legends of the Fire Spirits)

Jsinclair said:

I just shared the 2 volumes that my search turned up on this specific topic.

(Protect Yourself from the Jinn and Shaytan & Legends of the Fire Spirits)

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Thank you! since this is the book discussion forum:

This is definitely not a cheap one-off AI pamphlet. It looks to be a comprehensive study of both of the titular figures along with the practical advice promised in the title.

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Indeed it is. Lots of topics in the table of contents but only one section on the Qareen, which is probably to be expected. The Islamic view on that

topic is not flawed, but is limited. I will only add here that anyone who promotes methods of 'ridding oneself of the Qareen' by means of an

exorcism or 'spell jar' or any other occult method is simply incorrect. The Qareen is not an unnatural Jinn possession, but ordained by G-d.

(...according to the opinions in Islam that I have found, and my own personal belief system)

Sedim Haba said:

Thank you! since this is the book discussion forum:



Indeed it is. Lots of topics in the table of contents but only one section on the Qareen, which is probably to be expected. The Islamic view on that

topic is not flawed, but is limited. I will only add here that anyone who promotes methods of 'ridding oneself of the Qareen' by means of an

exorcism or 'spell jar' or any other occult method is simply incorrect. The Qareen is not an unnatural Jinn possession, but ordained by G-d.

(...according to the opinions in Islam that I have found, and my own personal belief system)

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It is certainly not uncommon for exoteric religion (or society) to place a taboo/prohibition upon a practice that is actually sacred in its esoteric essence. These prohibitions are generally enacted due to the puissance of the acts/beliefs and, thus, are reserved for the Inner "Elite" - no plebians admitted. In fact, the commoners must be convinced, at costs, that these things are forbidden under penalty of excommunication (from sect or social order), and innately disordered/evil/perverse. They should also be compelled to disseminate this viewpoint and allow no contrary opinion or even consideration.
Those seeking truth/illumination/Empowerment should actually expect this and actively seek out such things. What one actually DOES with their discoveries is beyond the scope of this comment.

*All costs

Addendum : It may or may not be of interest that in one place the Aspirant is instructed to choose an Island, fortify it, and even weaponize these fortifications (perhaps "against the people" of the grey lands and the assaults of their indoctrinated opinions). One is then, in effect, turning Satan against Satan by hallowing the unhallowed and going to "war" against the barking dogs (or yipping Chihuahuas) from the ramparts of the blessed (or Sainted) "isle".