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A mysterious figure

mocny

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Hi. I'm new here.
Hello everyone!
I have a question maybe someone can help me with.
I started my adventure with occult 10 years ago and I got scared.
There was a figure appearing of a middle-aged woman (don't know her), authoritarian, telling me "it's not your way", "you're a simple man", treating me like a teacher treats a small child. She was forcing me to stay at a horrible job I had back then and embrace suffering. For her it was "beautiful".
It made me very angry.
She was definitely connected to color blue and had an association with "Heavenly Mother" while Satan appeared as a father figure, challenging me, pushing for growth, testing. Satan was also connected to color red (i suppose fire, willpower, action, passion). And thanks to Him I found a new job which turned my life upside down (in a good way).
Last year I had a vivid dream in which I was in an medieval gothic church and there was a portal. On one side was a fresco of Mary, dressed in blue, on right there was sitting a little bird, a tit.
When some time after I travelled to visit my parents I stumbled at the airport on a dead tit bird. I knew it meant something and I got chills. This was a time I struggled with Satanism. While staying at my childhood house I performed some rituals and reconnected with the Infernal.
I keep wondering who this woman figure can be? She appears as overprotective mother.
At the first encounter with occult she tried to push me towards christian gnosticism. When I tried to be a catholic again (what a naïve idea...) and went to local church I immediately met a middle aged woman (real person) who started to talk to me intensively. It was uncomfortable.
Is it my projection or there could be a being behind it?
Would appreciate your thoughts!
Hail Satan! ⛧⸸
Hail Asmodeus!
 

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I know her ! 'My' version of her made my life an amazing miracle wonder !

But hey ... if you want to be all ' teenage hail Satan ' and worship some BS Christian 'anti-God' ... and have a good job ... that's your choice, and 'dharma ' I suppose .
 

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Huh once I heard the color associations the other way around.

Sorry you had to go through that and it was unpleasant with you. I think some deities/spirits work well with some people and others not.

So that might be why some people report good working with one and another not. I think looking into symbolism of the bird and what it means to you could be beneficial.

It's interesting because this figure likes suffering thinks it's beautiful yet is overprotective? Those two seem counterintuitive. If you want someone to see suffering or feel it they have to be free to go out in the world.

I've felt suffering because of my own choices and it is a lot worse and yet somehow a lot better than because someone was overprotective and made the decision for me. If someone was overprotective and made my own choices my expierence with that is that I grow numb to suffering. I never really feel it since someone else made my decision.

if someone is not overprotective and I suffered for my own decisions I would actually feel it and would get a good cry out. It was nice

I kind of don't like that they called you "A simple man," seems kind of rude. After that expierence if you haven't already then getting to re-experience your emotions and feel your feelings might be beneficial.

This spirit might be related to Catholicism maybe? So maybe check out the saints. Might also be related to Asherah or Saint Mary? Again this is a real maybe? I hope you feel better and find more spirits, deities, or daemons that resonate with you. Glad you found some that resonate.
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I would look into others responses to this too because I'm by no means an expert and definitely could use more expierence.
 
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I assume that you have family members who are into Christianity and who are praying for you. Christian prayers are not without power... well, unfortunately.

When Christians pray for someone, they are forming and sending servitors their way... or angels and other spirits who are in their religious family. (meaning group of both humans and spirits) These spirits tend to try convince people that they need to be Christians and are able to do some misfortune or bringing manipulative advices as they are on their task.

You seem to be sure about what spiritual path you want to be on, so I suggest to stick to it and have your legs on the stable ground that way. Makes it harder for these spirits to manipulate you. They never try it on you for long if you give them no reaction... You can also strike back on them if you need to.

The woman could be some dead human, who was devoted Christian, or a spirit send by other Christian prayers. Either way it is probably not your related spirit because from what you said it doesn't have your best interest in mind.
 

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I know her ! 'My' version of her made my life an amazing miracle wonder !

But hey ... if you want to be all ' teenage hail Satan ' and worship some BS Christian 'anti-God' ... and have a good job ... that's your choice, and 'dharma ' I suppose .
Why so dismissive? Guy seems to be content with the path he has chosen and it has worked for him, and it's opposite seems to be antagonizing him to make his life worse, and he wanted answers about what that could be. No need for the derisiveness.
 

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Because I am just that sort of person ... the sort of person that is 'dismissive' of Christian created anti-Christian fake deity , that's why .

There is also the matter of the logo , that is, if that is not a joke . ... a sign to tell anyone that sees it to be gay and hail Satan ? How do I take that seriously ?

besides, I am not convinced that the whole thread is not a joke anyway .
 

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Because I am just that sort of person ... the sort of person that is 'dismissive' of Christian created anti-Christian fake deity , that's why .

There is also the matter of the logo , that is, if that is not a joke . ... a sign to tell anyone that sees it to be gay and hail Satan ? How do I take that seriously ?

besides, I am not convinced that the whole thread is not a joke anyway .
Where in any of this post does it say to be gay? Especially with the implication the only gay thing can be with a quote on quote "fake deity"

Also they kind have an established history. There's an entire books and sections on this forum dedicated to this "fake deity"

I don't personally go with this deity but even if it was originally "fake" who decides that? A lot of Christian traditions come from not original sources but are still part of the religion. HeII wasn't even a thing and it's part of some Christian beliefs now.

Then there's the entire myhtology of the temple of Solomon and I mean who built that? I guess in your logic the wind did it. A slight breeze came along and the temple was built wow. I can't believe the all it takes to build a temple is a slight breeze coming along. What's all these construction workers doing look all it takes to build a temple is some wind coming along.

This comes across as really rude
 
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