About gratitude

[Firetree]

lol too funny. Someone told you to do an oath about not being subjugated.

There you go again ... making up your own stuff and now laughing at it .

Where did I say 'told me ' to do it ?

and you are using this as a diversion to not answer the many many questions and points I and others put to you .

This conversation has become pointless as you cant seem to stop interjecting your own imaginings and then start criticizing them

 

[Beyond Everything]

There you go again ... making up your own stuff and now laughing at it .

Where did I say 'told me ' to do it ?

Crowley told you to, of course (as if heroin didnt subjugate him) . And the idea of an oath in this regard is like a pantomime of real sovereignty.

and you are using this as a diversion to not answer the many many questions and points I and others put to you .

This conversation has become pointless as you cant seem to stop interjecting your own imaginings and then start criticizing them

I've made my points about gratitude. It wasn't a conversation, it was me pointing a finger for people to explore themselves. It's up to the person reading to investigate gratitude deeply, contrasting it with power and sovereignty of Self. Again, it's no accident that religions have preached gratitude forever. It's part of a -sometimes very subtle- system of psychic enslavement.

 

[Orion Altair]

I think gratitude is important. But maybe in a slightly different way. For me, I am very greatful to have a functional mind, a healthy body, and the guidance of the spirit world. I appreciate this and I am very greatful for the good in my life, and even if things are bad at times this gratitude always remains. As for the gratitude for magic happening, I think that if it feels right for you to be thanking the universe or whichever deity you want to be grateful to, then express it, feel it. I have in the past. These days its sort of an unspoken thing that I am eternally appreciative to be a part of.

 

[Firetree]

Crowley told you to, of course (as if heroin didnt subjugate him) . And the idea of an oath in this regard is like a pantomime of real sovereignty.



I've made my points about gratitude. It wasn't a conversation, it was me pointing a finger for people to explore themselves. It's up to the person reading to investigate gratitude deeply, contrasting it with power and sovereignty of Self. Again, it's no accident that religions have preached gratitude forever. It's part of a -sometimes very subtle- system of psychic enslavement.

And that system goes by the names I already explained ... so as not to conflate the two . It can be a system of 'psychic enslavement ' and that is when it changes name and term to subservience, control, manipulation and the other phrases and names which actually decscribe that .

Your problem and the issue people here are having with you , is your projection of these negative terms into gratitude, insisting it must be like this , suggesting anyone with gratitude has slipped into these negative traits and covered with a frosting of your own disdain .

 

[Lurker]

The core of the hidden real self is not a secondary being that has to give thanks for existing, but pure power.

"The core of the hidden real self is pure power", again, what does this mean? The real me is a fuckin' battery? "Power" is a fucking adjective, "pure power" doesn't mean anything.

Hold on, now. What BE is saying there make sense Qabalistically. We are all manifestations of the Limitless Light - is that not the ultimate source of power? We only perceive things in separated, dualistic terms because of the Sephirothic filtering of our states of consciousness. But ultimately, this is only a matter of perception, and working the ToL can affect that to some degree.

Also, I'm going to point out (gently) that power is a noun, a verb, and an adjective.

Maybe as much as you think it will?

Agreed. If your mind works that way, then yes.