About the dead.

[Music_magic]

Hello to you all. I would like some help and guidance here if possible.
I noticed for a while now that whenever I went to cemeteries, for a long time now, I always noticed that every time, a beautiful otherworldly peace comes to me that is so wonderful to feel. The more and more I noticed this, I started to visit cemeteries for this purpose alone, to feel that wonderful peace. Now it is something I do all the time, often every day. Often, I would take food there and eat my food in the cemetery.
There were times when I wasn’t well and was in pain, and I would go to the cemeteries, and all the pain would depart and I would feel so much peace. Going to cemeteries became therapy for me now, and it is wonderful for me seeing that I am so mentally ill and plagued with suffering.
The only way I can explain it is because, you know that phrase about the dead RIP? Rest in peace. I think, and this is just me trying to understand it, that is all, is that, that peace the dead are in and dwell in, the peace they are resting in, is somehow passed over to me, and crosses over to me and I can pick up on it and feel it. I think it may be because I am very sensitive to spirit, and am intuitive and an empath, maybe that is why I feel that peace the dead are in when I visit them in the cemeteries.
From simply going to the cemeteries, something else happened, I started going to the cemeteries at night and this was the truly magical time for me. I will explain. Before I say anything, I must stress that when I would go at night, I make every effort every time not to be seen so that I don’t attract unnecessary attention, to myself, people might think I’m a devil worshipper or something and call the police, I don’t want that, so I make sure nobody sees me and I always go late at night, around 2-3-4 am.
Every time I went at night, the peace I felt during the day became even stronger. I noticed something else, when I would sit in the graveyard, beside the graves, the silence at night, I couldn’t only hear it, for the first time in my life, I could feel the silence, I can only describe the feeling as wonderful. It is so pure and so calming, so beautiful to behold, this feeling is, the silence that I could feel in my soul and my spirit is so wonderful.
Another thing occurred when I visited the graveyards at night. At night, and only at night, I could feel the dead. I don’t know why this only happens at night, I cannot for the life of me explain, but this is the reality. I cannot describe it any other way, but I could literally, truly feel the dead. It is a wonderful feeling because I totally leave this world and linger in that space, that veil, between the living and the dead; I can feel them.
Something else occurred as well, the more and more I went at night, it became much stronger and larger. What I mean is, it shifted from feeling the dead, to feeling their presence, I cannot describe it any other way, but now, and for a while now, when I go the graveyard at night, I can feel the presence of the dead, it is such a wonderful, calming, beautiful feeling, I can feel their presence! It is not scary or dark or satanic or demonic or anything, it is kind and benevolent it is so beautiful and mystical and otherworldly, it is out of this world. The last couple of times I went to the graveyard at night, their presence I could feel was so strong that the atmosphere around me was thick with their presence.
What I did notice when going at night is that often, my energy would be drained, and I would start to feel very tired and very sleepy, when I was just fine moments before entering the graveyard. I think (and I am only speculating) that that may be because the dead are draining my energy, maybe because I am living and they are dead and so they take some my energy, this only happens at night, never during the day. What do you guys think about this? Am I correct in saying this and interpreting it in this way?
It seems as I also spoke of earlier, the more I go to the graveyards at night, the deeper the experience is, because the last several times I go to the graveyard at night, i would sit beside a grave and fall into religious ecstasy where fall into a beautiful trance that I cannot begin to describe. I often feel this religious ecstasy when working magically with the angels and the Saints and also right after I receive the Holy Eucharist (I am Catholic).
The last several times when I went to the cemetery at night, when experiencing the religious ecstasy I would not require oxygen, I would breathe out completely and stay there for a while, not needing oxygen. This also happens when I work magically with the angels and the Saints. I cannot understand why I never experience ecstasy during the day in the graveyards, it may because the dead are more active and alive during the night?
Still, I feel this wonderful peace when I go the graveyards during the day. I went there today in a lot of emotional pain and after going there, all the pain left me and I was peaceful.
Anyway, the reason I am writing this is because I want to get closer to the dead in necromancy, I would like to know rituals for this purpose, or a book that teaches this. For the record, I only work magically with the angels and the Saints, I never work with demons. I think I already have some kind of experience with this, given my experience, so I would like to go deeper. Thank you.

 

[Nembra]

Interesting, certainly provokes some thought about the nature of graveyards.
The dead are in Sheol, engulfed in nonexistence, I doubt they can be present with their dessicating corpses in any meaningful way. What necromancy usually deals with is actually restless echoes and malicious impostors. That being said, the Living Saints walk with you always. Perhaps it's just the calm and quiet of an empty, consecrated place that draws out their presence.

 

[Amadeus]

I feel something bizarre whenever I go to cemeteries.
After about a minute -2-3 the necromantic essence starts coming into me. There's a strange mystical mental high. It can be compared with some kind of a drug.
10 minutes over there and the effects last for 24-48+ hours. The feeling is very intense.
I suggest lighting some cemetery candles, this amplifies the effects. Not sure why but I can feel the candle as long as it burns.

I also get feeling of ecstasy from eucharist and saint work.
If you become even more open then after the essence comes in you'll also feel how it takes all the eucharist charge, with taste of soil and the emotions, sorrow, sadness.

 

[Music_magic]

Interesting, certainly provokes some thought about the nature of graveyards.
The dead are in Sheol, engulfed in nonexistence, I doubt they can be present with their dessicating corpses in any meaningful way. What necromancy usually deals with is actually restless echoes and malicious impostors. That being said, the Living Saints walk with you always. Perhaps it's just the calm and quiet of an empty, consecrated place that draws out their presence.

It makes sense to me, what you are saying because the presence and the feel of it is not dark or demonic but rather, the opposite, it is kind and pure and benevolent, so it may be from the Saints, because as a Catholic, a Saint is a soul in heaven, it is not just the Saints who have canonised. I think that is the source of what I feel when I go to the cemeteries, it is not a dark spirit etc, I have the gift of the discernment of spirits, if It was demonic, I would know right away.

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I feel something bizarre whenever I go to cemeteries.
After about a minute -2-3 the necromantic essence starts coming into me. There's a strange mystical mental high. It can be compared with some kind of a drug.
10 minutes over there and the effects last for 24-48+ hours. The feeling is very intense.
I suggest lighting some cemetery candles, this amplifies the effects. Not sure why but I can feel the candle as long as it burns.

I also get feeling of ecstasy from eucharist and saint work.
If you become even more open then after the essence comes in you'll also feel how it takes all the eucharist charge, with taste of soil and the emotions, sorrow, sadness.

Hi. What is a cemetery candle? Do you mean, a type of candle, or can it be any candle? Are there any rituals you can suggest to me for the dead, to further what I feel now, that has not involved ritual work. Also, are there any books for this, so long as they do not involve the demonic, as I strictly work with angels and Saints magically.

 

[Morell]

Hello to you all. I would like some help and guidance here if possible.
I noticed for a while now that whenever I went to cemeteries, for a long time now, I always noticed that every time, a beautiful otherworldly peace comes to me that is so wonderful to feel. The more and more I noticed this, I started to visit cemeteries for this purpose alone, to feel that wonderful peace. Now it is something I do all the time, often every day. Often, I would take food there and eat my food in the cemetery.
There were times when I wasn’t well and was in pain, and I would go to the cemeteries, and all the pain would depart and I would feel so much peace. Going to cemeteries became therapy for me now, and it is wonderful for me seeing that I am so mentally ill and plagued with suffering.
The only way I can explain it is because, you know that phrase about the dead RIP? Rest in peace. I think, and this is just me trying to understand it, that is all, is that, that peace the dead are in and dwell in, the peace they are resting in, is somehow passed over to me, and crosses over to me and I can pick up on it and feel it. I think it may be because I am very sensitive to spirit, and am intuitive and an empath, maybe that is why I feel that peace the dead are in when I visit them in the cemeteries.
From simply going to the cemeteries, something else happened, I started going to the cemeteries at night and this was the truly magical time for me. I will explain. Before I say anything, I must stress that when I would go at night, I make every effort every time not to be seen so that I don’t attract unnecessary attention, to myself, people might think I’m a devil worshipper or something and call the police, I don’t want that, so I make sure nobody sees me and I always go late at night, around 2-3-4 am.
Every time I went at night, the peace I felt during the day became even stronger. I noticed something else, when I would sit in the graveyard, beside the graves, the silence at night, I couldn’t only hear it, for the first time in my life, I could feel the silence, I can only describe the feeling as wonderful. It is so pure and so calming, so beautiful to behold, this feeling is, the silence that I could feel in my soul and my spirit is so wonderful.
Another thing occurred when I visited the graveyards at night. At night, and only at night, I could feel the dead. I don’t know why this only happens at night, I cannot for the life of me explain, but this is the reality. I cannot describe it any other way, but I could literally, truly feel the dead. It is a wonderful feeling because I totally leave this world and linger in that space, that veil, between the living and the dead; I can feel them.
Something else occurred as well, the more and more I went at night, it became much stronger and larger. What I mean is, it shifted from feeling the dead, to feeling their presence, I cannot describe it any other way, but now, and for a while now, when I go the graveyard at night, I can feel the presence of the dead, it is such a wonderful, calming, beautiful feeling, I can feel their presence! It is not scary or dark or satanic or demonic or anything, it is kind and benevolent it is so beautiful and mystical and otherworldly, it is out of this world. The last couple of times I went to the graveyard at night, their presence I could feel was so strong that the atmosphere around me was thick with their presence.
What I did notice when going at night is that often, my energy would be drained, and I would start to feel very tired and very sleepy, when I was just fine moments before entering the graveyard. I think (and I am only speculating) that that may be because the dead are draining my energy, maybe because I am living and they are dead and so they take some my energy, this only happens at night, never during the day. What do you guys think about this? Am I correct in saying this and interpreting it in this way?
It seems as I also spoke of earlier, the more I go to the graveyards at night, the deeper the experience is, because the last several times I go to the graveyard at night, i would sit beside a grave and fall into religious ecstasy where fall into a beautiful trance that I cannot begin to describe. I often feel this religious ecstasy when working magically with the angels and the Saints and also right after I receive the Holy Eucharist (I am Catholic).
The last several times when I went to the cemetery at night, when experiencing the religious ecstasy I would not require oxygen, I would breathe out completely and stay there for a while, not needing oxygen. This also happens when I work magically with the angels and the Saints. I cannot understand why I never experience ecstasy during the day in the graveyards, it may because the dead are more active and alive during the night?
Still, I feel this wonderful peace when I go the graveyards during the day. I went there today in a lot of emotional pain and after going there, all the pain left me and I was peaceful.
Anyway, the reason I am writing this is because I want to get closer to the dead in necromancy, I would like to know rituals for this purpose, or a book that teaches this. For the record, I only work magically with the angels and the Saints, I never work with demons. I think I already have some kind of experience with this, given my experience, so I would like to go deeper. Thank you.

Looks like you found your element.
I would be careful about books on Necromancy, although some contain very useful knowledge, which is worth searching for. Maybe also look for the books about ancestry worship, which is close relative to connecting with catholic saints. My personal note is also, consider looking for a graveyard related job, could be very useful way to connect with the place and also could give you good excuse for your presence on the graveyards.

I don't know if you have at home some place where you pray to the saints, if not, that could be worth making. You can have graveyard candles there too (easy to purchase, candles designed to be on graveyard, designed not to set surroundings on fire easily) along with pictures of the saints and maybe some stuff you bring in from the graveyard, pebbles, sticks, some soil... might be your place for recharge at home, where you can invite some of the graveyard spirits and saints to be present... and of course you can pray there too.

 

[Amadeus]

What is a cemetery candle?

The 24 48 or 72 hour candles sold near cemeteries or in stores, they got a lid on them, will burn for quite a while. I was really surprised when I discovered this effect. Lit a candle and felt it. I visited some priest's grave.
There are rituals, but I don't really do those. The necromantic essence, yes I can easily connect with it and the effects are strong but I'm not really into doing rituals in cemeteries. I know cemetery work has very strict rules, heard from those who practice.
One time, I left some alcohol over there and once it got dark outside massive amount of necromantic energy started flooding into me, it was a very awkward experience.
A couple of times after walking there I had dreams of the guardians, lady in white and man in black, they spoke about the energy. Somebody who looked like a priest came as well, after visiting the grave, he showed me church eucharist and told me to go there.
You could try finding some priests graves and going there to read prayers, read some psalms or do a session of hesychasm over there.

you bring in from the graveyard, pebbles, sticks, some soil

This is probably not a good idea unless you know 100% what you are doing. From all the sources I've heard that you have to bring an offering to even take the soil or whatever things. All loaded with that essence. At home, it can be slightly annoying for the other people around as well.
If necromancy is the interest then I'd first start by reading a lot of books, watching long podcasts about the topic and then finding a teacher, somebody experienced.

 

[Morell]

This is probably not a good idea unless you know 100% what you are doing...

Oh... do we ever know 100%?
But you are correct, a beginner should be little more careful as they yet need to develop and master tools to deal with problems when they occur.

 

[Amadeus]

Oh... do we ever know 100%?
But you are correct, a beginner should be little more careful as they yet need to develop and master tools to deal with problems when they occur.

The necromantic stuff, cemetery work, this definitely needs some serious study because it can give weird side effects.
Like based on what @Music_magic said about experiencing the effects from eucharist and saint work, it's something similar to me. If he continues working a lot with the prayers then it will give even bigger openness and processes the "spiritual engine" to a point of multiplied cemetery "buzzing". It's going to go beyond at some point.

What I know and have heard from others is that the essence of it is suitable to some people but others perceive it as "poison", almost like that.
I remember when some family member passed away the ashes were at home for a night. There was necromantic energy all over the place. At home I definitely would not want that energy 24/7. Turning it into the zone. I can remember somebody with strong psychic senses, who dealt with necromantic work, he had piles of cemetery soil at home. That's where I remember that the soil was taken with an agreement, offering was made. It was not just randomly taken. Something like offering to the cemetery guardian and then another something was given in exchange.

Some months ago I saw a home for sale which was more or less located next to a cemetery, on the actual cemetery grounds. The energy must be really extreme in there. I wonder what would that be like, living in such an extreme place That would be crazy, all the time high on the essence.

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I think our guy @Keldan knows about this topic right? Maybe @Keldan can shed some light for @Music_magic

 

[Music_magic]

Hello to you all. Yeah, I do have my own ritual space where I work with the angels and Saints. I am planning on ordering a magic circle based on the trithemius system of angel/archangel magic to use in my practice. I already own a wand from that system that I use. I really like saint magic because it is a lot simpler than angel magic and arguably just as effective. I have devised my own ritual of saint magic based on different sources and books that I am still working on. And yeah, like others noted, one must be careful when working with the dead, for instance, when I enter the cemeteries, I greet the dead with love and speak to them with love, but I never invite them into my life, and am very careful with my words, because I always invite the angels into my life before and after ritual, but I would not do that to the dead, God knows what consequences that could have. I think one has to be careful, in that regard. Thank you all for your replies and contributions.

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Guys, I suppose I am lucky in the sense that in the cemetery, there is a small Church there that I go to and pray in, and sometimes when people are there that are tending to the graves and they ask me why I'm here etc, I just tell them I like to go to that Church, it takes the attention off of me, which I don't want.