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So, it has come to my attention that my recent thread Possible Psi Cases may have been hastily read by some and that there may not have been sufficient information. That is fair, I probably should've included them and so I shall. Let us go into detail for each of them starting with the first.

Case 1: Innate Drug Aversion

Before I had those drug prevention programs I used to be tutored by some of my parent's employees. None of them used drugs or if they did I definitely did not know about it however one of them smoked. I saw how they often times had to take a smoke break and putting 2 and 2 together figured they must've had a mental compulsion of some sort. From them I learned the word 'addiction' and from my observation, inferred it must be something bad.

Years later I would start the drug prevention program however unlike my peers I already had an aversion to drugs, not because I was taught to do so, well at least not directly and nor was it because I was in the company of drug users. You could say I don't like having my mind altered. I desire to be genuine. Is this possible? Yes. Does it require a psi hypothesis? No.

My guess is that just as some of us are risk averse, genetically some may be predisposed to being against certain things even if we don't initially understand why. People can be genetically predisposed to personality traits (such as risk aversion, harm avoidance, or disgust sensitivity) that indirectly make them more likely to avoid drugs. Of course I haven't run a gene test to see if that may be the reason but let's consider another factor;

Even though I've never been around a drug user while growing up, I was around a smoker. Now from this you may expect that I would be against smoking, which I am however interestingly this early exposure may have bled over into my aversion towards drugs due to being closely related. Still we must not completely dismiss the possibility of psi. So what are the psi hypothesis?

1. Innate moral or spiritual intuition
2. Protective Influence
3. Past Life Trauma involving drugs
4. Subconscious awareness of spiritual harm from substance use.
5. Divine instinct placed as part of a greater plan or mission.

Examining these I would say 1 is possible. I mean, I am averse to being forced into something I am not, to force others to go against their person though whether that's just my preference, morals or spiritual intuition is another matter. For the second one, if there is some sort of protective influence it's hard to say where it's coming from. Is it divine, a spiritual trait, some combination? As for the 3rd hypothesis I have never recalled a past life however just because I can't recall it doesn't mean it's never happened. Indeed it would be fair to say that given the type of society I grew up in, perhaps I suppress those memories? Except no. I do not and have never recall a single past life however I will admit perhaps there's another explanation for that other than suppression. Perhaps if we assume past lives or reincarnation, the awareness of having thus experience may not be guaranteed to transfer over. Think of it like new game+ but without the befit of knowledge. As for the 4th and 5th hypothesis... I guess? Still if there is some sort of divine instinct I for one cannot tell what greater plan or purpose being innately averse to drugs may be.

By the way, I probably should clarify that my aversion may not protect me from being drugged without my awareness as I have never tested to see if I can tell if I'm being secretly drugged or not and nor do I want to find out.

Now in my opinion, while I am curious as to why I innately loathe drugs I find that the non-supernatural explanations suffice. That's not to say there can't be anomalous ones but if they are there then it's hard to see if they are primarily the reason why or only a secondary factor. So would I say the first case shows psi?

Eh, even if we assume it's a factor I'd say the nonsupernatural clause suffices either through possible genetics, risk aversion and inference or some combination thereof.

Now, in the event that a certain Keldan is reading this I'd like to point out that I don't disagree with the conclusion that this case is probably sufficiently explained by non psi means. Where I am disagreeing is the reasoning behind it but in all fairness I hadn't shared the specifics so it's understandable why certain assumptions may have been made.
 

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Case 2: Rapid Animal Bonding

Growing up I've had various pets. The first, the family dog which I think may have been a Shih Tzu hardly ever listened to anyone with one notable exception. Of course perhaps the reason for this is that out of all of the family, I was the one who spent the most time with the dog and I opted to use encouragements. Sure he did get very excited and would sometimes scratch the others in his excitement but that never happened to me. For some of you pet owners you may be aware that out pets can click naturally well with some of us and less some with others. From being exposed to each other it only took me about 3 days for the dog to bond with me but considering we're talking about a dog, this isn't too surprising or at least I don't think that it is. Unfortunately as some of you may be aware, having a pet that only likes or listens to one family member is not great for a family pet and thus we were forced to give him away which we did to one of my parent's employees. A couple of months later I would learn he had been neutered which means all the time he was a family pet he had never been neutered and still he pretty much only listened to me. To note this isn't unprecedented among unaltered pets in particular with dogs. Perhaps I had interacted with him during his formative years and perhaps he saw me as a leader of sorts which may have explained my ease with him compared to the rest of the family.

The second pet or rather my actual first that wasn't a family pet was an intact female rat whom I purchased from the pet store. Prior to getting my pet rat I had done research on what to feed them, handling them so that get used to humans, bedding, ideals for toys, socialization among other things so I wasn't going in blind. From the start I handled her everyday and rather than being skittish she was rather accepting. Of course I never got groomed by her and perhaps it would be more accurate to say she was more indifferent to being handled if anything else. Well she did urinate on me a couple of times but I'd say that's likely because I had no ideal how to tell when rats need to go to the restroom. Anyways it only took me 3 days for my rat to effectively fully bond with me. She lived to be 2 years which is pretty normal for a rat, like even if you do everything right, rats aren't known to live that long. Speaking of my rat-

I'd like to share that one time during the night she had chewed her way out of her old home (I don't let her sleep with me because I didn't want to roll over and accidentally crush her), climbed her way upstairs to my parents' bedroom, woke up the one who usually feeds her grains and after being brought back downstairs into the secondary home which was being prepared for her and of course being fed just stayed there with the door opened. When I awoke the next day I had assumed she had made her way to the secondary home but when I learned the truth I was even more amazed. She had never been to the 2nd floor, only staying on the first but of course rats are known to be excellent navigators so it wasn't too surprising that she would learn how to make her way to my parents. What was more amazing however is that she did not pee nor poop or chew any of the wires laying around and that after being fed, she just stayed inside of her 2nd home even though she had never been placed in there before. Talk about restraint! I'd say my rat must've been pretty smart.

My 3rd and most recently pet I got was a rabbit. Like with my rat I had done my research on their dietary needs, socialization, how to do a basic health checkup on them, etc. I had all sorts of cases of how rabbits are not low maintenance but rather high maintenance and that they are really challenging...

What a joke or maybe I just got lucky. As with my rat, my rabbit, an intact male rabbit who only took 3 days after being bought to fully bond with me. He was young at the time, about 8 weeks old and I pretty much had him initially sleep with me before being required to move him elsewhere for my own sleep. Now what was really amazing however is that for the 2.5 years that I had him he had never once demonstrated any of the behaviours you'd expect of an intact male rabbit. Zilch. No spraying, grunting, aggression or fear (in fact he would even insist on grooming me at times). You think I found him to be high maintenance, no. He was pretty much low maintenance. I had initially treated him like a cat however given that he bonded with me in just 3 days it would seem I would need to alter my approach which I did.

Looking back at these 3 cases I honestly can't tell whether they are sufficiently explained by nonsupernatural means or not. I mean, I did do my homework and even with the family dog where that wasn't the case I was the one who spend the most time with them. Still 3 days and across multiple species especially prey animals is something to take notice but if there is a psi effect my guess is that it appears to be restricted only to bonding speed and possibly affect. I suppose in addition to skill I may have just gotten lucky but then again it is interesting. As with case 1 let us examine the anomalous hypotheses.

1. Empathic Resonance
2. Karmic/Soul Level familiarity
3. Telepathic Rapport

Of these 3 options I'd say only the first has any merit. As I've stated before, I do not recall any past lives and if there is some karma going on, then it's curious as to how I have no problem with hunting and consuming meat. As for telepathic rapport, I do not hear mental voices, or if I do, then I clearly don't recognize it. Of course some of you may notice what I just said technically relates to mindreading, not telepathy but rather than projecting thoughts perhaps it would be more accurate to say something else may be happening. If there is something anomalous going on then perhaps I am emitting a sort of emotional altering field on animals that effectively calms them down and encourages loyalty in them.

Again my conclusion for this case is that I am uncertain whether a psi effect may be present or not but assuming that there is one, it's probably restricted to a charming effect. Who knows.

Oh and if anyone's curious, my mini rex was free roam ever since the day I bought him.
 

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Case 3: A shift in Perspective

It is an early morning some time during spring. I am ~13 yrs old at the time. Anyways I had this appointment early in the morning so I was dropped off at school instead. As I walked to my locker which is on the first floor I met one of my classmates. My classmate looked to be irritated and tired. I said "Hello". My classmate replied "What do you want?" in a tired and irritated tone. To note we were not on bad terms with each other and prior to this I had been practicing sensing, but not taking on the emotions of others, a type of empathic sensing. Anyways the next thing I knew, like the literal next moment I was no longer looking at my classmate or their eyes but rather from their perspective;

I could see not only myself but the lockers and hallway behind me. It only lasted for like a mental second so I wasn't able to tell if I could've done more but this experience has stuck with me since especially since this reminded me of the things I experience in my dreams on a pretty regular basis. Years later when I would reconnect with my classmate they had forgotten my name and also reported that they did not experience anything unusual. For anyone concerned I might have led them on, all I asked was whether they recalled anything when we crossed paths that one time during middle school to which they said, no. Leaving dream logic to the side and not to mention my dreams came before my experiences and media input let us first examine the mundane explanations before considering the anomalous.

Now, even though I was awake at the time is it possible for the human brain to be able to reconstruct and envision what the perspective of another's vantage point would be? According to some studies, yes however with that said usually this would be done with the support of the other senses and clearly if the target is facing you there would be things you would not be able to sense behind you, things such as who is behind you. Through memory and exposure I could reconstruct the layout behind me however the real question to ask is, is this likely? To that and considering I could see other students behind me I would have to say, no. So what of the anomalous and or psi explanations?

1. Spontaneous psychic empathic merge / soul perception
2. Human based clairvoyance
3. Possession

Now we must not forget that not all psychic experiences are shared so assuming this is an anomalous case, clearly it would appear to be one way. Looking at these 3 hypotheses I would say the information available does not support the first as while there was spontaneity, there was no merging. I did not feel my classmate's emotions nor did I have access to their thoughts; only their vantage point and while being able to possess others is one of the abilities I have in my dreams, considering the incredibly short duration not to mention I wasn't able to see if I could do more than just observe, the 3rd explanation, i.e. possession while admittedly pretty cool does not have much merit to it when compared to the 2nd, human based clairvoyance where another human being is used to act as a remote viewing lens.

Of the cases so far I would have to say this is the first one where it would seem that the possibility of this being a genuine psychic event is quite reasonable. Of course I cannot ignore the possibility of my brain having envision what was going on behind me in perfect coincidence and while I may not have felt any confusion, nevertheless it is a possibility.
 

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I do have several 3rd person memories from my childhood. The question is how accurate these can be? Human memory is a living thing, crossing, fading, and distorting the past all the time.
 

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I do have several 3rd person memories from my childhood. The question is how accurate these can be? Human memory is a living thing, crossing, fading, and distorting the past all the time.
Interesting. Perhaps you'll be willing to share some of them? Also, speaking of the fallibility of memory, while total recall is a thing it's also not common and even then there is also the possibility of misinterpretation. For most of us, although there are techniques we can use to assure a high memory integrity score, we can never eliminate the possibility of memory decay.
 

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Interesting. Perhaps you'll be willing to share some of them? Also, speaking of the fallibility of memory, while total recall is a thing it's also not common and even then there is also the possibility of misinterpretation. For most of us, although there are techniques we can use to assure a high memory integrity score, we can never eliminate the possibility of memory decay.
Generally speaking, 3rd-person memories are pretty common; another is breathing underwater.

Fun fact about the 3rd-person memories: They are usually frontal (seeing yourself from the front instead of from the back), and they are often mirrored
 

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Case 4: Did Michael Jackson die?

Age 14. I am with one of my parents on a business trip. For the past couple of days we have been visiting various landmarks such as Carlsbad Cavern and the White Sands to name a few while staying at cheap motels. Why? They like to save up on money to put it nicely. Anyways we had returned and during the entire trip I had been listing to music player which consisted of a list of video game music. So it's been a long day and after falling asleep I awake to a rather quiet motel... too quiet. It's as though something serious as happened. I then blurt out "Did Michael Jackson die?". My parent tries to shush me but then the tv next door confirms it when the news reporter announces him dead. I have never been a fan of the King of Pop nor has my parents. We saw and heard nothing about Michael Jackson during the business trip except for that one news report which we overheard and while it may comfort some of you to assume that teens make guesses all the time, that was not me. This was the first and only time where I guesses someone's death. I also at the time did not own a cellphone and so I couldn't have done earlier research but even if I could I wouldn't have any incentive to do so seeing how I was not a fan in the sense of being indifferent towards Michael Jackson.

Do I think that something psychic happened here? Honestly despite being surprising I think I'm going to have to chalk this one up to a lucky guess. Don't get me wrong, there was about a 1 in 39,000 chance that my guess would've been correct but lucky guesses inevitably happen. What matters more is consistency. Still we shouldn't completely disregard the anomalous so let's consider their hypotheses.

1. Precognition via Clairaudience
2. Precognition via Claircognizance
3. Precognition via clairsentience
4. Premonition

As I stated before, I do not hear mental voices so it's fair to rule out the first. I made a random guess so we can eliminate the 2nd and while I had a gut feeling that something serious had happened, arguably the unusual quietness of the motel could've served as a context clue. This leaves us with only a premonition. Premonitions as far as far as I can tell are usually divinely given for a purpose but as to what that could be... a sign maybe? It's too hard to tell. In any case I am more of the opinion that this case might be more of a case of luck independently then anything else however there's just one thing;

Some of you may recall that I eventually ran a retroPK session on myself to see if I could cause a trueRNG to output more tail end events, i.e. runs with no more than a 1/40 chance of occurring over 500 runs beyond statistical significance. Some of you may recall that in order to satisfy this I would need to get at least 20 such runs and that I ended up with 28, a probability of only 1 in 11,680. If we treat this as a parallel then perhaps we can include the possibility of some retroPK or to put that another way, given my retroPK results, it doesn't seem far fetched to say that my rate of randomly guessing an unusual event may be statistically higher than usual. Even then as they say, once is happenstance, twice a coincidence and 3 times a pattern.
 

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The entire Journals section is not one big journal meant for you to post individual threads for your individual thoughts.

Make one thread per subject you want to document over time. Key phrase is over time.

All of these threads belong in grouped together.

Furthermore, this section is meant to contain occult journals, as clearly described in the forum description.

So, keep it all in this thread unless you're going to start detailing a new practice or something, and keep it related to occult workings.
 

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Case 5: Blood Moon Staircase

Age; 16. The night before I had researched on my parent's phone, again I did not own a cellphone at the time, that there will be a blood moon, a lunar eclipse where the crux is during the witching hour. I desired to see this event, to be witness to it so I snuck downstairs. It was beautiful... quiet large too and very red. Then after about a minute past the apex I decided to climb back upstairs. To ensure that my return would remain undetected I crawled, pawed and strategically paused to let the creakiness of the 14 step staircase from the first floor to the second die out. Before we go on, allow me to explain more about this staircase.

The first 7 steps from the first floor to the second can be climbed without causing a creaking noise whereas if you try to climb the 8th to 12th step, they are guaranteed to creak. Years later when I returned to do an audio test on them I find out that the softest decibel I could make while climbing those steps was -23.42 dbfs over 2 minutes and 57 seconds. The fastest I could race up those stairs (again, 8 to 12) was 1 second with the softest output of - 17.57. Casually it only takes me 10 seconds for an output of -21.52 dbfs. In order to not wake up my parents I would have needed to produce no greater than -31 dbfs so how was I going to climb back up without waking them?

By timing it so that the creaks sounded natural, or at least that was my plan at the time. Using a stopwatch which was also my clock that I used to time myself to witness the blood moon, I used the tactile sensation and the soft beep, soft enough not to be a problem but loud enough to keep myself alert to help me with my assent. As a reminder I am incapable of tactile sensations in my dreams, that is to say I have never once felt a tactile sensation while dreaming. I make it to the halfway point, i.e. step 7. Hold. I press the stopwatch. The next thing I know I am at the 12th step. I immediately pause the stopwatch. Only 17 ms have passed and yet I felt no locomotion, no dizziness, confusion... well I definitely was surprised but that was to be given. It was silent. I quickly crawled my way up the last 2 steps and made my way to my bedroom and then went to bed. The next day I decided to check my stopwatch.

17 ms... that definitely wasn't there when I went to bed.

Okay, considering the physics of what happened, even if we assumed I may have misinterpret my stopwatch reading considering that not only would it be incredibly hard to find a stopwatch with such precision, it would also be unnecessary, we can make a fair adjustment and say that rather than 17ms having passed it was 170 ms. At that speed I would have to be going at say 5.88 ft per second or say about 4.01 mph. Physically speaking that's possible except there's one.. no wait. There's actually 2 major issues. First we have to consider the fact that we're talking about racing up the stairs from a standstill. As each step is 1ft in length and 1 ft in height, we can equate the minimal distance needed for travel to be ~7.07 ft.

Diagonal distance=sqr[(5)^2+(5)^2]=sqr(50)≈7.07 ft≈2.16 m

s=0.5(at2) from rest, constant acceleration)

Where:
  • s = distance traveled (7.07 ft)
  • t = time (0.17 s)
  • a = acceleration

Plugging in:

a=2s/t^2=2×7.07/0.17^2≈14.14/0.0289≈489 ft/s²a ≈333 mph/s ≈ 56.7 mph

To travel this distance in just 170 miliseconds without tripping or exceeding this distance from standstill I would need to somehow accelerate to 56.7 mph and then somehow decelerate to 0.

Since we've established my fastest recorded time would woken up my parents, it's...

Okay let's just state what it is. At that speed there should've been a booming noise and yet that did not happen. Also we must consider that due to the physical limitations of the stopwatch, even if exactly 17 ms or dare I say, even if the event was instantaneous, there's no way the stopwatch would be able to capture that. Now some may say perhaps my stopwatch had a glitch. Even if we were to allow for that I still would've also felt locomotion not to mention a stopwatch prone to such errors of not registering presses should in principle be more prone to delays and besides, a double tap would not be missed. I felt it before when I was climbing so it would be very off for me to some reason not feel any for those 5 steps. Aside from that prior to this case and afterwards I did not find my stopwatch to have any such errors and even if there were, practically speaking this means the actual elapsed time might truly be shorter, not longer. Although measurement error or memory distortion remain possible, neither explanation fully accounts for the combination of observations. This case... although I prefer to default to the nonsupernatural, I'm afraid I'm going to have to side with the anomalous on this one as requiring fewer assumptions or what's known in philosophy circles as Occam's Razor. Of course if you don't like the way I used that term then how about we go with inference to the best explanation or abductive reasoning though in any regards the question then becomes, assuming that something anomalous did happen what could it be?

1. Time Distortion
2. Teleportation
3. Spatial-Temporal distortion

Honestly these 3 options are so similar that while they're technically different, functionally they still have the same output.

{sigh} Of course as some of you may recall, I did a memory integrity test of this event and found that it was really high, say about 99%. Could this all have been a dream? Extremely unlikely. don't forget. I lack tactile sensation in my dreams but even if we assume this was that one instance, it still does not explain the result on my stopwatch not to mention the myriad and combination of other observations + the circumstances, well unless you want to then accuse me of fabricating the results. I suppose that would be a comfort to some of you though whatever happened or how it happened it definitely was not normal. Welcomed yes, but not normal... perhaps even anomalous or psionic? To be clear, I am not claiming that this event proves a psychic or supernatural phenomenon. My conclusion is simply that, assuming no measurement or memory errors, the event would qualify as anomalous and currently unexplained. Well I leave you to decide how you'd like to interpret this case.
 
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