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Any private organizations similar to Quareia?

techniquea2z

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Title.

Ideally, it's 65% Angellic RHP/ 35% Demonology

Mainly looking for hidden organizations, ones that fly under the radar.

Had interest in Astrum Sophiae, but it's just a branch-off of Golden Dawn... Even though, they claim to be unaffiliated with any organizations or lodges (my bet is that they're a New Age-y offshoot of GD).

Let me know!
 
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Good luck. Groups keeping under the radar won't jump on the radar. Don't know about any, but spreading nets is a way to let them know that you seek them. If they find you worthy of your attention is another thing entirely...

Not to mention the possible issues and dangers with groups working behind closed doors...
 

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Huh.
Astrum Sophiae is an offshoot of Aurum Solis. Never met anyone in them so thought they had all gone inactive or died out.

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Very British lodge-magic still , but less Masonic that the G.D. More Greek. I happen to like them and thought some of their invocations were beautiful.. Got their books way back when I was 12. I remember their book on Planetary magic , which was actually quite good. They also had a very practical use of Enochian that was not G.D.

As to any group that does what you're looking for. I have no idea.
 

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Well, one of the co-founders of Aurum Sophiae is a craft Master Mason...

Those vows are for life, I don't see how he could operate a new lodge without their blessing...

But what do I know lol.
 

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Astrum Sophiae is an offshoot of Aurum Solis.

Ordo Astrum Sophiae is the schismatic order that is still practicing the Ogdoadic magic of Denning & Phillips and that is still non-commercial, unlike the current incarnation of the Aurum Solis. The Aurum Solis these days is something else, and has been commercialized.

This is what I mean when I say that I practiced Ogdoadic magic. I avoid the names of the orders, especially Aurum Solis, to avoid confusing the past version under D&P with the current version.

I can tell you it's a powerful current, if your heart is in it. It produced a couple of shoicking TSIR experiences for me. I was also able to do some limited scrying in a crystal, which unfortunatley hasn't happened before or since.

If I was still practicing the magic of D&P I would joing Ordo Astrum Sophiae. But you should definitely read The Magickal Philosophy series by D&P before even thinking about joining. Make sure that style of magic is for you.
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This is what I mean when I say that I practiced Ogdoadic magic.

I wasn't very clear there, I'm pressed for time. I mean that I spent several years practicing the magic that D&P wrote so extensively and passionately about. The only reason I stopped was out of frustration with the hierarchical nature when there weren't any initiating bodies responding to my attempts to contact them. However, Ordo Astrum Sophiae has reconstituted itself and is operating again. I wish anyone embarikng on this journey a good trip.
 
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