[Opinion] Are all real magicians wealthy?

[Lemongrass00]

Yep. Because we could harvest the energy and filter it.

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Oh .. the diaries. No more an awful joke. But a small library and cafe as well.

Why are you so fixated on harvesting human energy delfuego

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

Not sure, maybe it's unconsciously viewed as a shortcut to power to avoid doing the work itself.

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The point is, as expressed before, the ongoing construction of your kingdom or empire.

 

[Vandheer]

Fuego you are acting mighty suspicious for someone who advertises love and light man

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

We all have our demons I suppose.

 

[Lemongrass00]

Not sure, maybe it's unconsciously viewed as a shortcut to power to avoid doing the work itself.

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The point is, as expressed before, the ongoing construction of your kingdom or empire.

I don’t understand why you think human chi would be better than divine chi which is infinite and much more easy to integrate

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

I see your point and you are one hundred percent correct.

 

[catpottery]

There are at least five books I can think of on money Magick, and I've seen several insinuations of "if you're not living your best life now, your magic sucks".

It's my opinion that some Magicians are born into wealth, many LHP magicians become wealthy through their patrons. RHP mages however, seem to lack a bit in general.

I think it depends on what one defines wealth as.

So what's the truth of the matter?

Wealth means nothing in the physical, money sense. Magick in its purest form is change in accordance with will, so it'd be obvious that the most successful, "wealthy" magicians would be able to inflict change on a grand scale, and, if they so wanted, in their bank accounts.
Most magicians are totally incapable of grand change, both within themselves and the world, so it would be of my opinion that most magicians are not wealthy.

 

[Taudefindi]

"if you're not living your best life now, your magic sucks".

I would say that there is a difference between being wealthy and "living one's best life", but when it comes for those that write about and speak of using magic for wealth...yeah, I would say that I would be wary of their claims.

It's similar to buying the course of someone that claims to have made millions with crypto coins, sports bet or real state, and yet you see their gains be mainly from their courses.Never from their alleged profession.

some Magicians are born into wealth

This would make sense, as in history it was common for magic to be something learned only by "men of cloth"(church), so it would make sense that only those able to read(and with money to pay for the resources) would be the ones able to learn magic.

So the image of the wealthy magician does have some truth to it, at least as far as history is concerned.
But I don't know about it nowadays.

There's no holy rollers raking in dough while shining with halos of brightness?

Now here's an image that I wom't be able to forget so soon...

I think whoever came up with The Secret was the blackest of magicians

It certainly was devious to create such a (dubious)crutch that became so widespread to the point of making cults out of it.

That's why my idea of a magic guild, where people registered just waltz in and have sacred space to do their thing, pay and leave, stands out strongly in my mind.

This is cool.

Most magicians are totally incapable of grand change, both within themselves and the world, so it would be of my opinion that most magicians are not wealthy.

Though to be fair, "grand" is subjective.What may seem grand to you might not seem grand to me.A change in myself that I might consider grand will be treated by you as "no big deal".

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Keldan]

I think it depends. Many traditions aren’t centered on material gain at all, so many practitioners end up living pretty simple, humble lives. And that doesn’t mean they aren’t living their best lives.

That said, those who practice certainly get help, spells, rituals, better opportunities, fewer setbacks, helpful connections, etc. So a lot of things will go in their favors. That naturally translates into more money or stability.

For me, wealth isn’t only cash, it’s about accumulating a lot of occult knowledge. For example, if someone’s making lobster, I may get them to invite me over for dinner. So that’s 3 lobster tails, a bunch of beers, and 2 entrees. That meal could cost me a good amount of money, but I can get it for free. So wouldn’t you say that’s better than being wealthy and still having to pay full price for it? Or doesn’t that make me wealthier in a way, because I get the meal and keep the money?

Jokes aside, it really just depends on how each practitioner defines wealth, and how much is enough for them.

 

[Sedim Haba]

So what's the truth of the matter?

Who is wealthy? He who is fed, and clothed, and housed, and loved. That is true wealth, all else is fluff.

 

[kaikai]

Are all bodybuilding enthusiasts sculpted? Some would be collecting knowledge, others subscribing to fitness forums and magazines. Others are satisfied they have two legs and two arms, others pleased that they can wake up every morning, some even aspire to be the Vitruvian Man. Are they actually buff or toned? beats me. <analogy>

 

[Firetree]

There are at least five books I can think of on money Magick, and I've seen several insinuations of "if you're not living your best life now, your magic sucks".

I think living the best life may not always equate 'money wealth ' .

It's my opinion that some Magicians are born into wealth, many LHP magicians become wealthy through their patrons. RHP mages however, seem to lack a bit in general.

I can think of many who were born into wealth and had money to play with .

I think it depends on what one defines wealth as.

So what's the truth of the matter?

Wealth of ...... - one thing is money , but there are other types of wealth

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From my reading of OTO biographies those magicians typically have tragic lives.

Perhaps there is blow-back from pushing around energy beings

What 'OTO biographies ' ?

 

[Janus]

Yes, but not in the sense that all practitioners of magick live in mansions, but the experienced ones who have put the time and practice in over the years, will not have any money worries.