Are you adventurous when it comes to your practice?

[Keldan]

I wonder if you’re the kind of person who’s adventurous when it comes to your practice. Do you tend to push beyond what you know to test and experiment something new to create better results? Or you mostly stay where you are and keep practicing what worked for you?

 

[Sedim Haba]

Oh, F ya. Well, you know. I am almost reckless in my path, it's not something I recommend, but thankfully I have help. Forced the help.

 

[Firetree]

Push .

 

[FireBorn]

My practice is about relationships with demons. To others, I probably seem reckless or adventurous because I don't use systems, circles, warding, or protection. I just evoke/invoke and take it from there.

Sometimes I push the edge even further, I'll evoke a new spirit with zero prep or research. I know that sounds wild to some, but I’ve found most of the fear based warnings around spirits to be fiction or drama. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been smacked around, humbled, and put in my place a few times. But I didn’t die. This isn’t a flex. I just think a lot of occultists overplay the danger. Maybe it's the flair for the dramatic. To me, 95% of that is smoke and mirrors.

If you practice in fear and surround yourself with protection, then your experiences will match that lens. (Yeah, I said it.)

Fear is an illusion. I try to push past it, even when it’s rough. Nothing compares to standing in your own fire, in front of a spirit older than time, without flinching. It's an indescribable rush. And the insights you gain, worth every bit of risk.

I recently encountered a spirit that another practitioner works with. I didn’t know much about it beforehand, no homework, no wards, no drama, just me and my fire. The experience was incredible. When I described it to her, she confirmed it was the same spirit she works with. That kind of raw, real verification? That’s why I keep doing this.

No systems, no books, no Latin. Just real spirit encounters. All the rest is theater to me. I want real and raw, or I wont make time for it.

 

[juanitos]

My practice is about relationships with demons. To others, I probably seem reckless or adventurous because I don't use systems, circles, warding, or protection. I just evoke/invoke and take it from there.

Sometimes I push the edge even further, I'll evoke a new spirit with zero prep or research. I know that sounds wild to some, but I’ve found most of the fear based warnings around spirits to be fiction or drama. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been smacked around, humbled, and put in my place a few times. But I didn’t die. This isn’t a flex. I just think a lot of occultists overplay the danger. Maybe it's the flair for the dramatic. To me, 95% of that is smoke and mirrors.

If you practice in fear and surround yourself with protection, then your experiences will match that lens. (Yeah, I said it.)

Fear is an illusion. I try to push past it, even when it’s rough. Nothing compares to standing in your own fire, in front of a spirit older than time, without flinching. It's an indescribable rush. And the insights you gain, worth every bit of risk.

I recently encountered a spirit that another practitioner works with. I didn’t know much about it beforehand, no homework, no wards, no drama, just me and my fire. The experience was incredible. When I described it to her, she confirmed it was the same spirit she works with. That kind of raw, real verification? That’s why I keep doing this.

No systems, no books, no Latin. Just real spirit encounters. All the rest is theater to me. I want real and raw, or I wont make time for it.

looks great! no danger..no fun!

 

[Sedim Haba]

If you practice in fear and surround yourself with protection, then your experiences will match that lens. (Yeah, I said it.)

Fear is an illusion. I try to push past it, even when it’s rough. Nothing compares to standing in your own fire, in front of a spirit older than time, without flinching. It's an indescribable rush. And the insights you gain, worth every bit of risk.

“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”
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― Frank Herbert,

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Truth

 

[BBBB]

I wonder if you’re the kind of person who’s adventurous when it comes to your practice. Do you tend to push beyond what you know to test and experiment something new to create better results? Or you mostly stay where you are and keep practicing what worked for you?

Was adventurous. But I was careful not to do anyting really stupid, like using drugs or "activating" sigils with my blood or accepting contracts with random spirits. Worst treatment I got was from fellow humans, though. The best was from the supposedly darkest and scariest spirits. Go figure.

 

[Sedim Haba]

Was adventurous. But I was careful not to do anyting really stupid, like using drugs or "activating" sigils with my blood or accepting contracts with random spirits. Worst treatment I got was from fellow humans, though. The best was from the supposedly darkest and scariest spirits. Go figure.

This is why I love my familiar. She keeps me safe. I trust her without reservation. Who can you trust? I know.

 

[Keldan]

I don't use systems

This is me. I don’t follow any systems, the only system I use is the one I’ve built for myself. Most of the time I just go with the flow, and I also think many practitioners exaggerate a lot of things in the spiritual. At the end of the day, I’d rather keep it grounded and focus on what I can actually verify through experience too.

 

[Robert Ramsay]

I too just make it up as I go along.

Although that isn't totally true

Physics is my system - and you'd be surprised how much you can get up to with it!

 

[Aldebaran]

I believe in safety and respect when messing with the occult and tend to proceed cautiously.

 

[OberonFromTheHills]

Yes. I love experimenting. Trying new ways to do things. Calling or not calling spirits. Using tools or not tools at all. Ritualizing or not ritualizing.

 

[Lucien6493]

My practice is about relationships with demons. To others, I probably seem reckless or adventurous because I don't use systems, circles, warding, or protection. I just evoke/invoke and take it from there.

Sometimes I push the edge even further, I'll evoke a new spirit with zero prep or research. I know that sounds wild to some, but I’ve found most of the fear based warnings around spirits to be fiction or drama. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been smacked around, humbled, and put in my place a few times. But I didn’t die. This isn’t a flex. I just think a lot of occultists overplay the danger. Maybe it's the flair for the dramatic. To me, 95% of that is smoke and mirrors.

If you practice in fear and surround yourself with protection, then your experiences will match that lens. (Yeah, I said it.)

Fear is an illusion. I try to push past it, even when it’s rough. Nothing compares to standing in your own fire, in front of a spirit older than time, without flinching. It's an indescribable rush. And the insights you gain, worth every bit of risk.

I recently encountered a spirit that another practitioner works with. I didn’t know much about it beforehand, no homework, no wards, no drama, just me and my fire. The experience was incredible. When I described it to her, she confirmed it was the same spirit she works with. That kind of raw, real verification? That’s why I keep doing this.

No systems, no books, no Latin. Just real spirit encounters. All the rest is theater to me. I want real and raw, or I wont make time for it.

I pretty much live in the twilight zone anyway, so I only get freaked out when magick actually works in real-time right there where I ritualize the theater of consensus reality and have my Reuben sandwich with fries and a beer. But like you, I practice magick in the “wild” so meat with cheese is about as Kosher as I get in my magickal practice, such as it is. Besides, I have no clue as to what I’m doing anyway, because, after all, power is orientation, not technique. Teaching that, well, you might as well try teaching a duck to fly.

And the wee devils, aye? They are more thoroughly adapted, integrated and at home in our world than we will ever be. At least the ones from like, ya know...Connecticut. I leave them alone. Usually.

 

[AlfrunGrima]

I am a try before you die person. I build my own system, but if I see in another system something that I want to try, I try. I am not the person who thinks on forehand that something can be a risk. If there is a risk, I want it at least to discover myself. So I am a little bit like a stubborn toddler. But that has it's origin:

I just think a lot of occultists overplay the danger. Maybe it's the flair for the dramatic. To me, 95% of that is smoke and mirrors.

I had the example of my dad who encountered one spirit in his life that is coming back every once and a while. He is scared from it and I knew that from early childhood. I made myself the promise to be never-ever so scared for a spirit like my dad was. I simply refuse it to walk away and live in fear. (and it is not needed anyway)

As for magic systems: before I started to study them, I already had my own methods and had already build a large part of my local witchcraft. All not really based on techniques but more on a state of being. I will not give up that, but new elements give me some new views and experiences. I like the learning that comes with it. Having an own system sounds wild and exiting, but is isn't. Most of the time I am just watching what happens after doing the magic, letting things grow, just sit and think with my cup of coffee at hand. My magic fits in the somewhat quiet slow rural life. ('m a villager, not a fast living city-person)

 

[AbammonTheGreat]

I wonder if you’re the kind of person who’s adventurous when it comes to your practice. Do you tend to push beyond what you know to test and experiment something new to create better results? Or you mostly stay where you are and keep practicing what worked for you?

I am a mad scientist when it comes to my practice. My wife and I intentionally break convention and rules to learn about the effects, utility, and necessity of procedures and magical technologies. We also conduct parapsychological research on our practice using stuff like psychiatric evaluations, brain entrainment techniques, EEG, and an assortment of cameras and microphones. Last year we were exploring biokinesis and ritual magic in aesthetic and cosmetic body modification which was incredibly risky as we were using magic specifically to play around with stuff like hormones, enzymes, and bio-rhythms. But we found some success and found a repeatable magical process.

Theres lots of things that can be done with magic when youre willing to take risks, one of my largest complaints with the current occulture is the lack of innovation and reliance on historical reconstruction. I encourage anyone at a certain skill level with our art to begin conducting experiments and getting creative with the art for the benefit of future magus. Crossing into this type/level of practice has also been a great pleasure, to be able to rely on magic in a way that allows me to experiment with it. It is invigorating.