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Balance of Life and Divine Law

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I am pretty sure it is in regards to divine law, putting aside the obvious as above so below paradoxes, “My image was Great in Egypt”would refer to Ma’at found at nearly every burial chamber. “Feared by the Greeks” you have the titan Themis, her daughter Dike, and the one who carried out the punishment for breaking laws set forth was the goddess Nemesis, daughter of Nyx. “no image among the barbarians” because by definition a barbarian would be someone with no morals and no divine practices. However in the “On the Orogin of the World”.

What are your thoughts WF? Do you follow any laws you consider divine because of - or even despite your beliefs?

Do you think the closer you are to following divine law, you are by extension closer with communion with the Divine? Do you see “synchronicities” as a sign you are on the right path?

What are your thoughts in regards to the poem being about balancing life, morals and divine law, is a set of divine laws necessary for easier communication with the gods/goddess’?

Do you believe life needs a set of divine laws or do you think humans can live harmoniously without a set of laws agreed upon?

Should the laws be exclusive to religious views or can it transcend, Norse Pagans have Wyrd, governed by the fates, Modern pagans the threefold law, Rosicrucians have Christ between spiritual and the physical (Lucifer and Ahriman) East have a balance of Ida and Pingala, Sun and Noon, Masons have the pillars of Mercy and Severity ect….
take a dive into what we call life, communion and put any religious or philosophical thoughts below! Regarding what I wrote above! 😉

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You might want to look at this new translation complete with scholarly comments.

Personally, I have a highly chaoist/sceptic/agnostic mindset - for me there is no balance, no divine justice and no universal laws that supposedly govern the universe, so for me this intriguing ancient poem is a paradigm buster of the first order which was designed precisely to blow up long established human preconceptions and 'rules' we might fabricate in a futile attempt to impose order on the unknowable. It's zen, in a way, a Coptic koan.

One of the scholars in the book says somewhere that the poem plays with our expectations and constantly surprises us. Applied Hermetic logic would probably require that every one of its paradoxes consisted of neat polar opposites, everything nicely symmetrical and thus 'balanced' as behooves fusty ideas of perennial wisdom but "Thunder" doesn't oblige and unpredictable changes tack, zigs where you want to zag. For example, we read "I am the bride and the bridegroom", an aesthetically appealing marriage of two diametrical opposites, i.d. male and female, but the next lines run:

And it is my husband who gave birth to me
I am my father’s mother,
my husband’s sister, and he is my child


which is mindboggling and just wild. For me, this is not a venerable treasure trove of eternal wisdom, it's a subversive spiritual firecracker. Because the speaker appears to be mostly female and downtrodden, it has been considered a feminist poem; it even appears this Prada commercial directed by Jordan & Riddley Scott.

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Of course you can read a lot of things into every poem but for me it's about defying expectations and a non-conceptional openness of mind.
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I just realized that the speaker in the commercial skips lines, for example "I am the bride and the bridegroom" is in the clip but not the wild mindboggling sequitur. :p
 
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You might want to look at this new translation complete with scholarly comments:
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It's zen, in a way, a Coptic koan.
I’ve heard it referred to it in this manner before, just don’t recall where:
as far as it not being entirely hermetic I 100%,
a Coptic koan poem indeed. No arguments about that as it gives me an esoteric Christianity vibe, like that of “On the Origin of the World”.

I think it does point towards the light and dark of the mind or consciousness, as Jung put it, it seems to be the “Anima” (or female mind) speaking, it is up to the “Animus” (male action of doing)

“The Anima is the most important but the Animus must come first.”
I think it may be saying “life comes first but you need to raise the spirit within through finding a balance within the mind” like having a set of divine laws or a moral code.

Idk as a poem I just think it’s thought provoking and speaks on the nature of what it is to be alive, and a conscious being, we all try to navigate through the different stations we are born into or positions we are in as we see them when the truth is we are so much more than just the body, our soul is the perfected mind, but our spirit is what tries to navigate the waters, and thunder our physical rational causes rough seas, you cannot become a good sailor if all you ever know is calm sea’s, life is a way of testing the spirit, the body is a Middle ground to question and actually invest in and the more we invest the more we believe in the consequences of the illusion creating a self perpetuating system.
“It zigs where you are wanting it to zag” thus is an unaligned life.
Thank you for sending me the newer link!
 

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I believe that the "Divine Laws" are all stemming from Tao or Dao. Therefore they are natural laws and the way we were created (Through Love and Sexuality) is what governs us. So the trick is to go back to childhood where we were still innocent, The day before sexuality grew on us. Through there we can rediscover the meaning of life for ourselves and go back to a playfulness which keeps life interesting. Invoke the "inner child" and keep it in good shape, will enhance the life as all of these are natural things. "I've gained the world but lost my soul" - so many of these in life in modern society. Better to keep the soul in shape by learning about Loving yourself and following nature.
 

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I believe that the "Divine Laws" are all stemming from Tao or Dao. Therefore they are natural laws and the way we were created (Through Love and Sexuality) is what governs us. So the trick is to go back to childhood where we were still innocent, The day before sexuality grew on us. Through there we can rediscover the meaning of life for ourselves and go back to a playfulness which keeps life interesting. Invoke the "inner child" and keep it in good shape, will enhance the life as all of these are natural things. "I've gained the world but lost my soul" - so many of these in life in modern society. Better to keep the soul in shape by learning about Loving yourself and following nature.
This same sentiment is echoed in other religious scripts
Greeks had Themis and Nemisis was basically the karma that you got by going against Themis and her daughter Dike (justice and balance)
Norse pagans had Wyrd who was governed by the 3 fates
Modern pagans have the threefold law,
As far as sexual energy/alchemy you have the kundalini, Ida and Pingal sun and moon rising the spirit through the middle column,
Rosicrucian have an all light (Lucifer) and all Physical (Ahriman) pillar with st Michal as the middle column which Christ was on,
Masons use the symbology of the pillars of Severity and Mercy but masons seek to use it to manipulate the physical other gain nowadays,
Zoroastrians had thoughts words and deeds in the physical to raise the spiritual.
Originally all these raised the spirit to improve upon life for the whole of yourself and community, it was to reach a more pure communion with the divine.

but onto the the Chinese concept of Dao, it seems like once you get rid of the programming placed on you through parental upbringing, society ect, you can align with your path in life and be much more joyous and you will notice more synchronicities, through those you find yourself living aligned more with “Wu-Wei”.
IMO 🤷‍♂️
it seems to be a theme echoed across time.
 

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but onto the the Chinese concept of Dao, it seems like once you get rid of the programming placed on you through parental upbringing, society ect, you can align with your path in life and be much more joyous and you will notice more synchronicities, through those you find yourself living aligned more with “Wu-Wei”.
IMO 🤷‍♂️
it seems to be a theme echoed across time.
That is exactly what I have been doing all these years. Destroying ego bits of myself and of myself of others until I was no longer welcome in society. Then I noticed that the better the ego parts inside flow with your current occupation the more in a flow state you will be. Obviously you can't be without ego in society as you need to act within it, but a transparent flow from yourself to others is what things are about, and so that they can see you and accept you.
 
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