• Hi guest! As you can see, the new Wizard Forums has been revived, and we are glad to have you visiting our site! However, it would be really helpful, both to you and us, if you registered on our website! Registering allows you to see all posts, and make posts yourself, which would be great if you could share your knowledge and opinions with us! You could also make posts to ask questions!

Bardon's Bullshit 'Kabbalah'

frater_pan

Apprentice
Joined
Mar 31, 2025
Messages
67
Reaction score
88
Awards
1
Bardon wrote his books on German, it is the original language of his books, the original name of his "Quabbalah" book is "Der Schlüssel zur wahren Quabbalah. Der Quabbalist als vollkommener Herrscher im Mikro- und Makrokosmos", so the spelling "Quabbalah" was his personal choice. It is even emphasized by his "Quabbalah" being based on German alphabet with German-only letters (umlauts), but not even on Czech letters.
Then the problem is solved. German has a similar rule (at least in German a leading Q is almost always followed by a u), something that I as a near native German speaker wasn't aware of. There is a clear exception in German with foreign words, mostly in French though. So you guys can continue your piñata beating all you wish, but I suspect that Bardon followed a convention rather than made a capricious spelling choice.
 

BBBB

Apprentice
Joined
Sep 9, 2023
Messages
70
Reaction score
214
Awards
1
Kabala, however you spell it, essentially is a teaching about letter-sound-number correspondence, and it can use whatever alphabet the author wishes. The claims about someone's language or Kabala be the one God used to create the world are not original, it's merely a power move. If you know a few "kabalas", you can easily prove that any of them is workable.
 

Celestia

Neophyte
Joined
Feb 2, 2024
Messages
26
Reaction score
96
Bardon's "Quabbalah" book has nothing to do with Kabbalah at all, anyone who knows at least some basics of Kabbalah will confirm this.
What I have found, is that this is probably true for about 90% of books on "kabbalah".

There's so many. I just picked a few off my shelves but this is only a small handful.


iInKeoj.jpeg


"Kabbalah" can be spelled a million different ways, though not all are "correct" or authentic by any means. But that's because Kabbalah split off into many different sects and areas. Some argue that anything other than Jewish Hebrew Kabbalah is entirely inauthentic nonsense. But it did play a role in intersecting with other traditions, albeit with changes.

ROOT & SOURCE FORM (Hebrew)​


  • קבלה
  • קַבָּלָה (with niqqud)
  • Qabbālāh (scholarly transliteration)

Root: QBL (ק־ב־ל) — “to receive”

PRIMARY ENGLISH SPELLINGS (Most Common)​


  • Kabbalah
  • Cabala
  • Qabalah
  • Qabbalah
  • Kabbala
  • Kabala
  • Kaballah
  • Cabbalah
  • Qabbala

These are the core nine from which most variants descend.

ACADEMIC / SCHOLARLY TRANSLITERATIONS​


  • Qabbālāh
  • Qabālāh
  • Qabbalah
  • Qabalah
  • Qabbala
  • Qabbālah
  • Qabballah (rare, older German-influenced)

CHRISTIAN & RENAISSANCE ESOTERIC SPELLINGS​


(15th–17th century Latin / Christian Cabala)


  • Cabala
  • Cabbala
  • Caballa
  • Cabbalah
  • Cabalae (Latin plural)
  • Cabbalae
  • Caballa
  • Cabbalistica (adjectival)
  • Cabalistica
  • Cabala Mystica
  • Cabbala Hebraica

These dominate Pico della Mirandola, Reuchlin, Agrippa, Kircher, etc.

HERMETIC / OCCULT TRADITION SPELLINGS​


(Golden Dawn, Thelema, 19th–20th c.)


  • QabalahGolden Dawn standard
  • Qabbalah
  • Qabalism
  • Qabalistic
  • Qabalist
  • Qaballa
  • Qaballae
  • Qabalah Mystica
  • Qabalistic Philosophy

Crowley, Regardie, Fortune overwhelmingly favor Qabalah.

MODERN HEBRAIC-INFLUENCED SPELLINGS​


  • Kabbalah
  • Kabbala
  • Kabbalaḥ (rare academic)
  • Kabalá (Spanish)
  • Kabbalá
  • Kabaláh
  • Kabbalahh (rare emphatic spellings)

EUROPEAN LANGUAGE VARIANTS​


German​


  • Kabbala
  • Kabbalah
  • Kabala
  • Qabbala

French​


  • Kabbale
  • Cabale
  • Cabbale
  • Qabbale

Italian​


  • Cabala
  • Cabbala
  • Kabbala

Spanish / Portuguese​


  • Cábala
  • Kábala
  • Cabala
  • Kabbalah

Polish / Slavic​


  • Kabała
  • Kabala
  • Qabala

PHONETIC / ALTERNATE RENDERINGS​


(Usually older, regional, or fringe)


  • Kabballah
  • Kabalah
  • Qabbalha
  • Qaballa
  • Cabalha
  • Caballa
  • Kaballa
  • Qaballa

DERIVATIVE / RELATED FORMS (Not the noun itself, but commonly conflated)​


  • Cabalae (plural)
  • Cabalism
  • Kabbalism
  • Qabalism
  • Cabalist
  • Kabbalist
  • Qabalist
  • Cabalistic
  • Kabbalistic
  • Qabalistic


Most books on "Kabbalah" contain errors, inconsistencies, and are not fully authentic. They are divorced from the original Hebrew and the logic that comes with the native language.

So you have to take away what you think is relevant.

Again, every book has errors. There are no books without them. You have to try and find any good, if there is any, within it. This is simple nondualistic, non-black-and-white thinking.

If you find one error with an author or a book and throw it out, you won't have a very fun time in esoterica and occultism. That's every book and author ever.

But are there some out there that are just absolute gibberish, completely divorced from any authenticity or relevancy to anything at all? Sure. The merit is somewhat in the eye of the beholder.

Kabbalah is something that morphed and developed over the years through the Middle Ages as it split off into other traditions. This is always controversial, because then it's not Jewish, and maybe not Hebrew. There are areas like "Christian Cabbalah". Up to you whether you think it's nonsense or not, but it became an area of study that developed on its own.

When it comes to Bardon, “Quabbalah” signals that this is not Jewish Kabbalah, nor Golden Dawn Qabalah. It marks a distinct, operative system. Bardon’s system is phonetic and vibratory, not symbolic-theological. He explicitly ties letter forces to the working language. Umlauts (Ä Ö Ü) are functional, not decorative. He himself states the system must be rebuilt, not merely translated, for other languages. Up to you if you think what he did is valid or not.
 

Hermetika

Neophyte
Joined
Nov 17, 2025
Messages
21
Reaction score
43
It s
Just check Mark Rasmus youtube channel, there are enough about Bardon's hermetics videos from his training to form an oppinion. Beyond Everything is so "bold" exactly because he's so incompetent. What was the name? The less someone knows the more self-confident they are...

"This phenomenon is known as the Dunning-Kruger effect, a cognitive bias where individuals with limited knowledge or competence in a specific domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence. Because they lack the expertise to recognize their own incompetence, they display high, unwarranted confidence."

Thank you, google AI assistant)
There is also a former student of Mark's with a really decent program for studying Bardon's work as well - Sixty Skills.
 
Joined
Sep 22, 2025
Messages
220
Reaction score
186
Awards
1
It s

There is also a former student of Mark's with a really decent program for studying Bardon's work as well - Sixty Skills.
why does mark rasmus have such a large gut (I saw it in a side shot of him on video)? Why couldn't he reprogram himself with all of bardon's work to gain a healthier weight? I watched a couple 60 skills videos and he proffers some made-up garbage about the afterlife as well.

If you'll notice, none of these people trying to make money off of gullible aspirants bother explaining the discrepancy in bardon's kabbalah between claims (the claim of perfect health through letters) and results (bardon's sickly condition over years). Try and address the actual topic, people, not spamming for people looking for more paying customers.
 

Celestia

Neophyte
Joined
Feb 2, 2024
Messages
26
Reaction score
96
why does mark rasmus have such a large gut
Again you keep using the same argument. And we keep going round in circles.

I'll try to give you the best possible answer. Most people studying occultism, esoterica, magick, etc., are not good at applying it. Most like to talk about it, read about it. Even teach it. Find me an individual who has used magick to transform their life, with concrete proof (eg. medical evidence). It doesn't exist. There isn't one out there.

So we can bring up any teacher, and you will have the same argument, again and again.

Can you provide us with a teacher who has succeeded in applying magick to their body, and has physical tangible proof?
 

gerimon749

Neophyte
Joined
Oct 1, 2025
Messages
5
Reaction score
12
From Bardon's book-

The formula "Joe-Hoe-W" brings about perfect harmony in the mental, astral and material worlds, i.e., if used mentally, astrally and materially -- eucharistically -- which then must result in perfect health.

Must result in perfect health. lol How much clearer can it be? I picked one of the formulas dealing with health, there are others in his book. Bardon was quite unhealthy and if he hadn't committed suicide, he'd have died young anyway. So much for results. And Bardon did try to improve his health, to little effect (ie using spagyrics), so the idea that he didn't use his own system is nonsense.

What Bardon did was take the Hebrew out of the Sepher Yetzirah and then shoehorn the German alphabet into it (it's not a perfect correspondence but it's close enough). Then people call this 'hermetics'. It's somewhat odd, particularly if you study how these alphabets evolved.

Investigating it I could see there is some energy in the system, but no one has or ever will achieve a lot of the results claimed in his book. This is supposed to be the jewel of Bardon's long practices, but he couldn't even use it to heal himself. It can cause the practitioner to experience various 'divine' 'highs' (hence some of its reputation, outside of the fairy tales told about Bardon), but as an esoteric system to achieve the highest, it falls flat. As well the practical results claimed are nonsense, no one achieves most of them.
I'm new here, but I'm just gonna put in my two cents anyway:

Although Bardon had health issues and consequently committed suicide, it does not detract from any of his claims. There are a plethora of reasons why Divine Providence had him experience all that he did. Suffering is, afterall, a large part of life lessons, and the acceleration of evolution to Godhood. Quite possibly, the psychic strain was too much for him, or he could have very well had a flaw in his system (the German Alphabet would be one of those) that was his undoing.

Furthermore, it is possible that you weren't spiritually balanced or "pure" (no offence) enough to reach the entities you were trying to summon. He did expressly admonish his students that the constitution had to be elevated to a certain level of purity before it could be considered safe to invoke/evoke these powerful forces.
 
Joined
Sep 22, 2025
Messages
220
Reaction score
186
Awards
1
There are a plethora of reasons why Divine Providence had him experience all that he did. Suffering is, afterall, a large part of life lessons, and the acceleration of evolution to Godhood.
People either have power or they don't. There is no cosmic referee judging the use of that power (ie Divine Providence is simply superstitious)
 

Hermetika

Neophyte
Joined
Nov 17, 2025
Messages
21
Reaction score
43
why does mark rasmus have such a large gut (I saw it in a side shot of him on video)? Why couldn't he reprogram himself with all of bardon's work to gain a healthier weight? I watched a couple 60 skills videos and he proffers some made-up garbage about the afterlife as well.

If you'll notice, none of these people trying to make money off of gullible aspirants bother explaining the discrepancy in bardon's kabbalah between claims (the claim of perfect health through letters) and results (bardon's sickly condition over years). Try and address the actual topic, people, not spamming for people looking for more paying customers.
What they do explore and explain however are the gaps in Bardon's system - acknowledged gaps - this isn't something that only you've discovered yourself BE. The difference is that they have worked at figuring out how to work through the various gaps through practice and their own occult experience instead of burning all of Bardon's books because his physique wasn't up to Greek standards. Why don't you do everyone a favor and reveal who you recommend, or a better system to follow? You've only been asked this same question every time you post and you avoid answering it every time. The last time someone got a recommendation out of you was Gurdjieff. And I've already addressed the claims vs results vs environment vs immortality issue so I'm done with that. A better angle for this OP btw would have been: "Bardon's BS Kabbalah and What I Recommend Instead..."
 
Joined
Sep 22, 2025
Messages
220
Reaction score
186
Awards
1
The last time someone got a recommendation out of you was Gurdjieff.
I didn't actually recommend Gurdjieff. I was discussing the basic concept of self reflective awareness and its vital importance. I even explained how Bardon's instructions there fall flat. What is it you want? I'm not going to spoon feed, that ain't how the occult works, let me assure you. Ever try reading an alchemical text? You can't read carefully, that isn't on me.
 

weirdbird

Neophyte
Joined
May 18, 2025
Messages
11
Reaction score
23
I'm new here, but I'm just gonna put in my two cents anyway:

Although Bardon had health issues and consequently committed suicide, it does not detract from any of his claims. There are a plethora of reasons why Divine Providence had him experience all that he did. Suffering is, afterall, a large part of life lessons, and the acceleration of evolution to Godhood. Quite possibly, the psychic strain was too much for him, or he could have very well had a flaw in his system (the German Alphabet would be one of those) that was his undoing.

Furthermore, it is possible that you weren't spiritually balanced or "pure" (no offence) enough to reach the entities you were trying to summon. He did expressly admonish his students that the constitution had to be elevated to a certain level of purity before it could be considered safe to invoke/evoke these powerful forces.
I'm sorry but "God was personally preventing Bardon from losing weight" is not the kind of statement I was expecting to read today. This is not a healthy or useful approach. When your car doesn't start you don't go "I must be not morally pure enough to drive it, God wants me to learn my lesson by walking".

Kabala, however you spell it, essentially is a teaching about letter-sound-number correspondence, and it can use whatever alphabet the author wishes. The claims about someone's language or Kabala be the one God used to create the world are not original, it's merely a power move. If you know a few "kabalas", you can easily prove that any of them is workable.
If I remember correctly, Crowley for example outright states that his own personal kabbalah/system of correspondences is only useful to him and the students should build their own systems instead of blindly following the existing ones.

A better angle for this OP btw would have been: "Bardon's BS Kabbalah and What I Recommend Instead..."
In all honestly, most of the material you can find in IIH can be found in earlier sources. Compiling it all into a single walktrhrough system is a big achievement but I am not really convinced Bardon was practicing it himself and if he did, how far along his own system he was. I do agree it'd be more productive to discuss things that work instead of arguing about things that probably do not.
This post 100% hits the mark in my opinion:
Bardon is classic example of XIX-XX century occultist - man who keeps smoking, drinking, eating various junk, being obese, oftentimes sitting on drugs and speaking about some kind of "spiritual development", "magic", "occult". I didn't want to sound too harsh, but life is way too short to spend it on books of someone who can't show even the slightest hint of having at least such semi-"miraculous" power as defeating his own bad habits. Allen Carr is by miles more powerful "occultist" than Bardon... Seriously.
 
Top