Blackpill is disgusting, especially from a spiritual stand-point

[BrooklynShaman]

Again, I don't know if this is the right forum to post my little rant about, but I believe it is still on-topic in a way.

I find the whole thing about blackpill to be absolutely revolting and especially individuals like Clavicular.

Yes, looks are an important part but the problem lies in this worship of the flesh. As someone who has had a sort of Near Death Experience, I can assure that everything that is material, dies in the dirt, including the body.

By no means am I saying that you should neglect the body; the body itself is a vehicle for you to experience the world but by no means you should start worshiping the body as the Self. I frequently partake in meditation for long periods of time and eventhough I haven't reached any Enlightened state, I do feel like the human mind is much more than muscles and bones.

In Advaita Vedanta, the Self or Atman is the witness to everything; it is that which remains untouched by the plowing of time and as such, is the same as the eternal Brahman that is the bedrock of existence itself; Tat Tvam Asi or Thou Art That, the realization of which leads to satchitananda or the bliss of true knowledge.

Kashmir Shaivism takes this a step further and argues that the material world is an expression of Shiva and that every individual is Shiva contracting Himself to experience the bliss or ananda of recognizing ones trueself. Art produces Rasa or an effect on the perceiver who, moved by the art in front of them, experience the bliss of Shiva, making art, poetry, music and other artforms as legimate ways to achieve moksha or liberation.

Tantra transgresses societal norms as it considers everything to be divine, including sex and wine; though they must not be indulgent for the sake of it but as paths to liberation. Sex, especially, is incredibly sacred as it is the closest two human bodies can come together (no pun intended) to experience a mutual bliss.

What the above traditions point out is that the Self is much more expansive than the body but the body shouldn't be discarded but instead celebrated in a way that allows you to see your own vastness. Blackpill reduces the soul to the body and as seen in the case of Clavicular, leads to a beautiful cage where the soul rots and dies. Blackpill, for me, is the ultimate indoctrination of the supremacy of the Ego and the Matter, both transient and inevitably bred for decay.

These people need to sit in a creamtion ground and see the proud skins of many be ravaged by fire and become indistinguishable from dust.

I am not that well verse on Western occultism (thus I lurk here) but I would love to know ehat Occultists think of Blackpill (if they think about it at all)

Thanks for reading my rant.

Shantih, shantih, shantih

 

[MorganBlack]

I hear ya.

Gen-X here, so I only know of Clavicular from SNL. Isn't he only 26 years old or so? Without making and had excuses for him, the 'ugly' thing he is now may be necessary for him to grow to be the beautiful thing he needs to be later.

I cut everyone under the age of 33 TONS of slack. But if you're still acting like a petulant child past age 40, then I will think there is something seriously wrong with you. In some Jewish spiritual traditions, you were only supposed to take them up after raising a family, having a child, and being an upstanding member of your community. Or it just encourages too much spiritual bypassing.

The Western path is being engaged with Maya. Here we take it seriously, as I like to say, that we are not humans having a spiritual experience; we are already spiritual beings having a human experience.

And some of that will be with all the ugliness. I will say we get better. In my experience, unless someone is a drug addict, narcissist, borderline, or psychopath, (the true "evil" ones) then we all usually become very decent people later in life, no matter our spiritual path. As Jung said, Life Itself is the path of Individuation. We can't avoid it even if we wanted to. (Assuming a person with a functional brain here, and not one with a Dark Triad brain disorder).

And plenty of spiritual people are totally horrible people. Look at Deepak Chopra hanging out with Epstein, or Japanese Rinzai Zen master Sasaki Roshi, who left decades of sexual misconduct and abuse of power that only came to light toward the end of his life. And I say this as someone who loves Zen. No spiritual path will "fix" or dissolve what Zen master Dr. Suzuki called the "Small Mind". We can only mitigate it. Clavicular is 'in' his Small self right now.