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Reading Liber Null and watching videos online you see different ways of creating a sigil, is there an universal rule? In my interpretation the important thing is giving it a "meaning" and charging it through some method of gnosis, is it right?
 

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Reading Liber Null and watching videos online you see different ways of creating a sigil, is there an universal rule? In my interpretation the important thing is giving it a "meaning" and charging it through some method of gnosis, is it right?
Universal rule is to make sigil with intention of making sigil and then using it as one.
 

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In my interpretation the important thing is giving it a "meaning" and charging it through some method of gnosis, is it right?

Close enough. Your sigil is a symbolic representation of your clear intent. Charge it, then pick a moment to Collapse 'send it out' (such as set fire to the paper with a candle). Have a closure as well for safety. An 'ending' to your spell. Closure gets overlooked.

Compress Intent - Sigil, Charge, Collapse, Close

The 4 'C's! Now that I am doing this lets make it five 'C's, each a representiative corner of the pentegram that makes sense.



Clarity (of intent), Compress (intent into a sigil), Charge, Collapse, Close.

The Five 'C's to any sigil.
 

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I would suggest a small change in using affirmation rather than intention.
If you really want to explore and practice sigil magic, well you should know that all starts with practitioner's state of being.

Intention is generating the state of "I wish I could have, it is my intention to have..." - and a recognition of the lack of what is missing while affirmation already collapses the timelines and realities because the practitioner is setting the frequency of already having (I have .....) the stuff they want to be manifested in their awareness.

In simpler words, one is wishful thinking, the other is will in manifestation from "abracadabra" to "let there be light" , but don't share that.
Some do need to keep exploring the difficulties until knowledge comes from a self-realisation process rather than somebody else shared this tiny perspective.
What does abracadabra means? "I will create as I speak" - rather than "Is my intention to create..."
God of one's creation said (didn't wished, didn't intended but said) "let there be light" ... according to religious texts.

Can be considered one flaw in why some sigils fail to properly manifest in one's awareness as preferred.
 

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Intention is generating the state of "I wish I could have, it is my intention to have..." - and a recognition of the lack of what is missing while affirmation already collapses the timelines and realities because the practitioner is setting the frequency of already having (I have .....) the stuff they want to be manifested in their awareness.
I also consider this to be the most important. If you say 'I want X' then your wish is already fulfilled - you already want 'X' :)

Whereas if you say "I will be X" or "I am X" then your intention is properly formed.

One of the biggest problems in life, whether magician or not, is people not knowing what they really need; their True Will.

Once this is sorted, then applying it to an external object (a sigil for example) and programming it into yourself with gnosis is relatively easy.

The next hard step is distracting yourself from it to achieve 'without lust of result' - otherwise you will replace your intent with "Gee, I hope this works!"
 

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It depends what you mean by sigil, if you are on about chaos magik then you really only need the intent of what your making to be a sigil.

if your talking about sigils within a more grimoire context, then you would need to full the set instructions and such
 

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It depends what you mean by sigil, if you are on about chaos magik then you really only need the intent of what your making to be a sigil.

if your talking about sigils within a more grimoire context, then you would need to full the set instructions and such

Since the OP mentions Liber Null, I assumed it was the former. And yes, technically you don't need any actual physical constructions at all, but unless you're extremely experienced in this, or the situation is just right, it never hurts to have a physical representation of your intent.
 

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I was writing something about a suggested difference between sigils from letters and those from squares / the GD Rose. It's too short for an OP so it might as well go here:

I always thought “kamea” was another way to say Magick Square, used by the type of people who use “tulpamancy” instead of making a servitor, or “ensorcelling” instead of wizarding. But in a book on the history of tephillim, it (kamea) was described as a talisman / amulet. The author wrote the source of the word is unsure and gave a couple of possible etymologies: from Latin, comparing it with cameo and (cum me = with me), Persian
(kam = a little), and Hebrew (QIMHA = a small portion). This agrees with the short fragments of prayer that are included in the tephillim and which are always worn on the body, and I think cameo (the jewelry with a profile in relief) is not related.

On Wikipedia the word (kamea) is also given as an alternative for Magick Square. So... what if kamea is (from now on going to be used by those super elite snobby wizards that are truly in the know as) the word for the type of sigil that is derived from a Square as opposed to the sigil that is formed by mashing parts of letters together to form a glyph?
What then? Nothing. But lemmy explain anyway.

A (perhaps slightly) more pleasing Hebrew etymology (that fits my view here better..) could be ChMI / ChMA / ChMH = “to guard / observe / worthy / to cause to see / to appear”. Because the sigil guards or hides the name until it is placed on its square: only then can you see the numbers – and thus letters – that are connected through its lines appear.

not that tl but nevertheless the dr:
I propose the name sigil should be used for figures that contain letters / symbols, and kamea should be used for the figures that are taken from connecting points on a matrix​
 

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I would suggest a small change in using affirmation rather than intention.
If you really want to explore and practice sigil magic, well you should know that all starts with practitioner's state of being.
Yes, this! I my beginning days of performing/ practicing magic it was this I stumbled upon. I kind of always was in the wish-upon-a-star modus, I really had to unlearn that. I really had to learn to put in mind what I want in such clear pictures and words that it felt as already achieved. That stage in my learning proces took a long time. I am talking more about years than months. Learning how to align thoughts was not an easy task in which the beginners luck was also an hindrance because it made it more difficult to discern what was happening.

Alongside I rehearsed different charging methods/techniques, because I really wanted to be sure that I could do the 'trick'. This is a kind of paradox because you can't really rehearse magic, there is always a little change because of changing your own mind towards things and magic.
 

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It is possible to collapse (send out) the sigil as you are charging it by letting your intent do the actual drawing. No letters, no numbers, no thought. Put your pen, pencil, crayon or whatever you are using to draw with on a a blank piece of paper. Stay with the charge. Focus on that and let your inner self carry the intent. Whatever ends up on the paper, be it ever so humble, becomes your sigil. You won't know what it means. Message delivered.

Think of it like this. You are hopping mad at your bestie who is standing at your door and you are biting your tongue (building up a charge) by refusing to really letting them have it. But you have to release that charge before you lose it (that is your intent) and without even thinking about it...something just comes over and you slam the door in their face (that is the sigil). Message delivered. No need to open the door to see if they are still standing there (release).
 
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