How do you see the author's view on Shani Bhakti in relation or contradiction to the tantric view of Moksha?Fucking dark. Heavy. Tamasic, as we say in tantra. I focused on Shani, as that is the easiest "real-world" analogue of Saturn currently still in existence. I also have some teaching from my guru in a basic Shani mantra (similar to the one in the book) and it still increased my depression/"inner darkness" in ways that kinda suck ass. That said, bhakti with Shanidev is always going to be challenging.
I agree 100% regarding the nonsense of the conspiracy stuff etc. I was asking about experiences that people may have had, who engaged with the contents of the book.If you are talking about Arthur Moros' book, it would be better to move the threat to the book discussions. Granted, I haven't read this specific book, but I heard a few good words about its content.
However! A big, giant however. Be warned that the whole idea of the Black Cube of Saturn is also full of pseudo-occult conspiracy theory nonsense. This isn't the right forum to discuss it either, and I would personally stay away from any source that puts "Black Cube" and "Saturn" in a single sentence. Same with any sources trying to claim that "Saturn" and "Satan" are directly related.
He gives you just enough to hang yourself with. Trust me on that one (or not). That said, householders worship Shani, so it's not a closed practice in India per se. Please dm me if you want to speak more about this stuff. I'm not an expert/guru/whatever, but I love chatting about the so-called "malefic" grahas in Hinduism.While I have an altar to Shanidev, I don't have mantra diksha for him particularly. I believe that the book provides enough information for anyone who wants to build a private saturnine cult, my main objection is that the author seems knowledgeable of the trappings of the cult but is not informed in the philosophical aspect of it. Especially in regards to the tantric tradition.
Based on how Moros speaks, he sees Saturn as a god with "many names/faces" through history and time, and isn't concerned with things like Moksha, but returning to Saturn's realm once the human body has "had enough" so to speak. There's a genuine religious devotion running through the text for the god, and it's palpable. I think it's one of the best genuine books on mysticism in many years, honestly. Theion is an excellent publisher, for certain.How do you see the author's view on Shani Bhakti in relation or contradiction to the tantric view of Moksha?
A past guru of mine mentioned to me that Shiva/Bhairava can "keep Shani in line". Kali as well, though getting in her good graces in the first place is much more difficult.From what I know Hanuman Bhakti always helps when approaching Shani.