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I love it too. Its the Goetia Tarot in Darkness deck. Artworks done by the same guy that did the Santa Muerte Deck. I think his name is Fabio Listrani. I wish I got the chance to get one his limited edition kickstarter decks. They were really something special.
I finally got my copy of this deck. I'll post some pictures later. The art is amazing! They are very high quality cards. Can't wait to use them!
 

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I usually use Archangel and Angel cards and I currently plan to get a deck directly of Archangel Michael. We have several type of Tarot cards at home too, but Tarot pulling was never really a part of my daily card-routee. Sometimes, family members and friends tend to ask me to deliver the message of the Celestials to them it was always fruitful and accurate.

My recent experiences encouraged me to not ignore this great opportunity to information- and guide delivery, and so I'm opened to give a shot to different type of cards in the future (I'm actually curious and interested about the Daemon tarot too, I try to build up a healthy balance between the Infernal and Celestial sides in myself).
 

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So, some background. I've been working with Paimon, mostly in artistic form. Many of my fractals have the Paimon sigil in it in some way. Today I received my Goetia Tarot in Darkness deck. I spent an hour, literally an hour, walking around. Shuffling in various ways. To do a card pull for today, I simply concentrate on "what do I need to know". I started going through the deck until I got a feeling that said I should pull that card. Initially I went past the card and the feeling went away, then I went back, felt it again and went back too far and lost the feeling. I finally narrowed it down to a specific card and pulled it.

It was this:


Uh. Wtf? There's 78 cards in this deck. It's been shuffled for an hour. The card was 100% random. The Goetia book says this card meaning is "Sad Ending". This card corresponds to the 10 of Swords in a normal tarot deck, which is "Extreme unhappiness, depression and a deep sense of loss".

Like holy shit. That card out of absolutely any of them. I'm honestly shocked, and the meanings are kind of scary.

Maybe Paimon is pissed. I've been using his sigil, but I haven't given anything back. Maybe I can turn that around.
 

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So, some background. I've been working with Paimon, mostly in artistic form. Many of my fractals have the Paimon sigil in it in some way. Today I received my Goetia Tarot in Darkness deck. I spent an hour, literally an hour, walking around. Shuffling in various ways. To do a card pull for today, I simply concentrate on "what do I need to know". I started going through the deck until I got a feeling that said I should pull that card. Initially I went past the card and the feeling went away, then I went back, felt it again and went back too far and lost the feeling. I finally narrowed it down to a specific card and pulled it.

It was this:


Uh. Wtf? There's 78 cards in this deck. It's been shuffled for an hour. The card was 100% random. The Goetia book says this card meaning is "Sad Ending". This card corresponds to the 10 of Swords in a normal tarot deck, which is "Extreme unhappiness, depression and a deep sense of loss".

Like holy shit. That card out of absolutely any of them. I'm honestly shocked, and the meanings are kind of scary.

Maybe Paimon is pissed. I've been using his sigil, but I haven't given anything back. Maybe I can turn that around.

Dealing with tarot cards and oracle cards is something which have not too much to do with "randomness" if you know what are you doing and your senses are also opened enough for bringing the right message into your life. Not too long ago it happened to me, that for four days straight, I kept pull one specific card only out of the 45 cards, which was from Archangel Michael. It took me four days to finally find the right "approaching" of the message and what he is trying to tell via the card, and when it happened, that specific card pull didn't get repeated, even since then.

Based on how you described the situation, I can say that what I feel is that the card you just pulled was definitely meant to be pulled, and here we are. This isn't random, it had to be happened.

Maybe you should try to contact with King Paimon, and ask him directly about this pull and your concern. If your suspicion is right, then you can at least try to solve the situation, and give him a proper offer in exchange. Who knows, maybe you can get away with an art piece, what you have to create just for him, and that would did the trick. As I heard, he really likes getting offerings connected to poetry and different form of art.

Make sure, communicate, nothing could go wrong; maybe this card pull is just a sign, and you can still avoid the consequences. It is also possible that the card itself isn't really about what is going on between you and King Paimon, and it's pointing at something else, but if this was your firs suspicion, go for it by any means (ad feel free to tell us about how it went).

(Also, I'm glad to see people here who are actually working with King Paimon. Some weeks ago, out of nowhere his name - and things connected to him - started to pop up everywhere around me, then thoughts of him started to float in my mind and I couldn't get rid of them, they keep coming back. Years ago, I've actually read about him, but back then I worked with other Infernal Royals, and I didn't get this "dragging feeling" towards him during those times, what I have now.)
 

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Based on how you described the situation, I can say that what I feel is that the card you just pulled was definitely meant to be pulled, and here we are. This isn't random, it had to be happened.
It really did feel that way. I guess the odds are pretty straight forward statistically (1 change out of 78 for the Paimon card), but I think the randomness adds some complexity here. It definitely felt like it was meant to be pulled, but to be honest my immediate feeling was dread, and that feeling stuck with me all night. That may just be my brain, and one always has to be careful not to intentionally manifest "the bad stuff". Self fulfilling prophecy and all that.

Now here's the kicker... I don't believe there's anything mystical about tarot cards. I think it's a purely psychological thing, like many other practices it helps you focus your attention to work stuff out (even if it's an unconscious/subconscious type thing). I've firmly believed this for decades.

This pull... I dunno, it felt 100% different than the hundreds of other times I've done a card pull. I stood there shocked.
Maybe you should try to contact with King Paimon, and ask him directly about this pull and your concern.
This is a fantastic idea and one I intend to do, maybe as soon as this evening. I'm not entirely sure how I'll do it, or what additional thing I'll offer yet. Something I need to work out today.

Here's another oddity. And for the record, I've always thought this was a psychological thing (like face pareidolia). Our brains are literally made to find patterns, even if they don't exist. Anyways, I've recently built a spirit box with a raspberry pi and SDR dongle. We live on a mountain in the woods, in a somewhat remote location, so we don't get many radio stations normally. Actually, we can't pick up any stations normally.

With spirit box (ghost box, whatever), there's 3 main thoughts... First, what I've always believed, it's just your brain trying to make sense of randomness. It's sort of like LaRPing I guess. It can be fun, like watching a horror movie or whatever. Second, some users think plain static is fine, and if something wants to speak, it will, even if there's no "input" (radio stations). And Third, some users think you need to have radio stations to cycle through to provide, well, words for a "spirit" to use.

I've always firmly been in the #1 group there. It's fun, sometimes kinda creepy, and it's a fantastic little raspberry pi project.

However... I've used it twice for 15 minutes each, and Jaide has used it a couple times as well. This was way before last nights card pull (1-2 weeks ago).

Before I continue, one of the attributes of Paimon is that he will speak in his own language unless commanded to speak clearly. He has a low, hoarse voice. I had completely forgot about this until researching after the card pull last night.

Both times I used it, when pretty much all I was getting was straight static, there were a couple brief periods where all static went completely silent and a very deep, hoarse voice said something. I couldn't understand what was being said. Now I think back on it, and it's weird. We don't get any FM radio stations most of the time, so I'm not even sure what the input was here.

So take that, with the card pull, and it certainly seems like ... something.

I've been putting Paimon's sigil into artwork for over a year, dozens of them. I haven't asked for anything, or even tried to directly communicate, yet.

Yanno in some IM apps you can hit Control-G in a chat window and it beeps on the other users end and saying something to the effect of "so-n-so is trying to get your attention!". In a moment of levity last night, I sort of wonder if that's what all the art with the Paimon sigil in it is doing. BING BONG - Incognitus wants your attention! BING BONG! BING BONG! I absolutely hate when people hit control-g heh.

I will definitely post what happens. I'lll likely start another thread so I stop taking over Jaide's thread.

Thanks Telafiel! I appreciate your input. Glad you're here on WF.
 

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It really did feel that way. I guess the odds are pretty straight forward statistically (1 change out of 78 for the Paimon card), but I think the randomness adds some complexity here. It definitely felt like it was meant to be pulled, but to be honest my immediate feeling was dread, and that feeling stuck with me all night. That may just be my brain, and one always has to be careful not to intentionally manifest "the bad stuff". Self fulfilling prophecy and all that.
Yes, you did this quite well. Keep yourself away from negative thoughts, in this way, blocking the chance to empower any negative energy and manifesting it into your life. If you have some struggle with that, try to approach your situation as a "third person". It usually can help people to keep their cool if they are capable of being overly anxious, nervous, emotional.​

Now here's the kicker... I don't believe there's anything mystical about tarot cards. I think it's a purely psychological thing, like many other practices it helps you focus your attention to work stuff out (even if it's an unconscious/subconscious type thing). I've firmly believed this for decades.
What people often forget is that we are the trick, and not the tools we use. They can help, but you play the main role in this, and your place and role can not be taken away or replaced by any object.
Personally I don't believe that tarot cards themselves are mythical or magical, but one thing I know and believe: I am. I make them work for a purpose, using my own senses, powers, abilities. When I use them, they help me while I do the trick, it's that simple. I don't put my hope and belief into an object, but in myself. I've been always above them. If I'd blindly put my hope into things I ever used, I'd make myself believe that I myself have no power, but things, tools, objects around me and that I am depending on them. It's not true.
This pull... I dunno, it felt 100% different than the hundreds of other times I've done a card pull. I stood there shocked.​
Maybe this was the first pull what you've ever done by using your senses. What do you think?
This is a fantastic idea and one I intend to do, maybe as soon as this evening. I'm not entirely sure how I'll do it, or what additional thing I'll offer yet. Something I need to work out today.​
If you are not too comfortable or feel yourself safe in the presence of King Paimon, evocation would be the best for you. As for the offering, don't worry about that, if he really requires any kind of offering, he'll let you know during the communication.

Using his sigil on different objects or in any way around you would link him to there and his energy too. I wouldn't recommend to use any entity's sigil, especially not continously if you haven't communicate with them and made sure that it is fine for them too. Not only for your safety, but for the sake of their own peace. These energies can be destructive, and cause trouble around you (health problems, technical or other kind of issues, accidents etc.) and you probably don't want to deal with this.

King Paimon is very close to Lucifer, he is proud of his rank, and even prefer to being called "King Paimon", not simply "Paimon". He can be very furious over it, and it's better to pay attention to your manners when you talk to him. Even if he often mentioned as a "beginner-friendly" being, lot of people had bad experiences after they messed up, and he is definitely not a demon you want to piss off. He is a King after all, however you should approach every entity with respect.

For the Spirit Box topic.

I'm a little bit jelly of you now. I've actually planned to get some equipment, such as EMF, Spirit Box and D.O.T.S. Projector. Not only because I want to get into a different way of experience and explore those who came from higher or (most oftenly) lower dimensions, but because these are actually very interesting stuffs. Maybe one day, but until then, Phasmophobia awaits, haha.

At least I've learned some new about these technical things, which can be even useful in the future, thank you so much! I hope that everything is fine around you both, and I'm excited to hear your report.
Thanks Telafiel! I appreciate your input. Glad you're here on WF.​

I'd rather say, it's my pleasure!
 

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I had to take some time to think about some of this. BTW, I talk about Jaide , but not sure I mentioned yet that Jaide is my wife, and when I say we I mean me and her. Just clarifying that she's real and is not me, hah. I'm pretty sure. She's just so awesome it sometimes seems like a dream. :love:
Yes, you did this quite well. Keep yourself away from negative thoughts, in this way, blocking the chance to empower any negative energy and manifesting it into your life. If you have some struggle with that, try to approach your situation as a "third person". It usually can help people to keep their cool if they are capable of being overly anxious, nervous, emotional.
Today definitely took a turn for the worst. It was a very frustrating day work wise, and car wouldn't start. Turned out to be the battery which I'll get replaced tomorrow, but definitely an expense we don't need right now. I'm starting to think the card really was a warning possibly from King Paimon (more about this below).

I guess I could look at this in just about any way, but for now I'd like to think my offerings in art in the past year got his attention enough to try to give me a heads up. And yanno, it kinda worked? Today really sucked, but I was sort of prepared and expecting it. Neither me nor Jaide had a meltdown, and we didn't even break out the rum. That's progress!

What people often forget is that we are the trick, and not the tools we use. They can help, but you play the main role in this, and your place and role can not be taken away or replaced by any object.
Personally I don't believe that tarot cards themselves are mythical or magical, but one thing I know and believe: I am. I make them work for a purpose, using my own senses, powers, abilities. When I use them, they help me while I do the trick, it's that simple. I don't put my hope and belief into an object, but in myself. I've been always above them. If I'd blindly put my hope into things I ever used, I'd make myself believe that I myself have no power, but things, tools, objects around me and that I am depending on them. It's not true.
That is what I believe as well, but you said it much more eloquently than I ever could! I actually read it out loud to Jaide. This just made something click in my brain, and my mind is kind of blown right now.
Maybe this was the first pull what you've ever done by using your senses. What do you think?
I had to think about this. I've done many, many tarot readings, both for myself and for Jaide (we usually do one for each other), but this WAS different. I always concentrate on the question, but there was just something about this. I've never shuffled for an hour before, and this is the first time I've gone through the cards and had any sort of physical feeling about a specific card. For some reason, I felt completely dialed in and, I guess, part of the process (rather than just the recipient, if that makes sense).

There's been a lot of weird things lately. We're both (re)learning an instrument. Jaide has been relearning trumpet and I've been working on guitar and we've been sticking to it and making progress (I've got some sweet sweet calluses). I feel like this is somehow related to our mental state and "connectedness".
If you are not too comfortable or feel yourself safe in the presence of King Paimon, evocation would be the best for you. As for the offering, don't worry about that, if he really requires any kind of offering, he'll let you know during the communication.
An Evocation has always been one of my goals. I can admit, tho, I'm nowhere near ready physically or mentally. It's a bit painful to admit that, since this has been an interest and I've researched for years. I'm working towards being in a good place to carry out an evocation. I feel like I also need to more deeply understand what this entails.
King Paimon is very close to Lucifer, he is proud of his rank, and even prefer to being called "King Paimon", not simply "Paimon". He can be very furious over it, and it's better to pay attention to your manners when you talk to him. Even if he often mentioned as a "beginner-friendly" being, lot of people had bad experiences after they messed up, and he is definitely not a demon you want to piss off. He is a King after all, however you should approach every entity with respect.
Point taken. I don't know why this never clicked for me, but you're right. I feel like I need to verbally take responsibility.
For the Spirit Box topic.
It's really fun. There's a pretty high creep factor. There should never be a full phase or sentence, especially if you're randomly hopping channels instead of sequential, but it does happen and strangely sometimes it makes sense.

I like to use the Estes method. I think the Newkirk's came up with this. The person using the spirit box preferably uses over the ear, noise canceling headphones (noise canceling ear buds are fine, just as long as they can't hear anything but the box) and is blindfolded. The idea here is that the person listening to the spirit box can't hear questions being asked or even know when a question is asked. I'm sure it's not "scientific", per se, but it does remove the possibility of the listener simply listening for what they think the answer to the question should be.

Jaide is better at it than I am. She did a 15 minute session not too long ago and at least 3 times I got direct answers to questions. It was pretty strange. We usually get no radio stations here, especially off of a SDR dongle. Towards the end (I hadn't asked anything) Jaide said "we're coming" and "we're coming from space". I recorded it but I was coughing so much, it's annoying to listen to. :/ Just real creepy sometimes.

I'm working on some other little projects. You can get almost any type of sensor for a raspberry pi, and the pi zero's are tiny and easy to connect up some sensors and shove it into a case with a battery. I love fun stuff like that. I hope to release stuff on Github once the projects are stable.

Granted, a raspberry pi, SDR dongle and battery are going to be more expensive than a SB7 or whatnot, but there's so much more you can do. Plus you build it, so you know there's no BS built into it (ie, anything that might artificially create phrases so you think it's working, but it's just part of the device programming to make you think it's working).
 

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Update: Woke up today to find the furnace broken. It's -6. There's a heating wire wrapped around the fuel line (tank is unfortunately outside), but we haven't had that plugged in because the heating company was supposed to use an addictive to prevent the fuel line from freezing. Not sure yet if it IS the fuel line, but either way it's -6 on a Sunday before a huge storm, so who knows when we can get it fixed.

While looking at the furnace in the basement, noticed a puddle. The hot/cold water hookups for washing machine (which we don't have right now) is leaking. It's never done that before, and I'm absolutely confused how it could be dripping anything.

Turned on the back yard light to make sure the fuel line warmer was actually warming, and the light blinks?! Wtf? It literally blinks on and off constantly. In addition, we have a LED light in the bathroom ceiling, and the control (which is hard wired buttons on the wall, not remote operated) most of the time doesn't work (ie, you hit the light off button and the light doesn't go off until you push it 10 times). These 2 sounds like some sort of short or other electrical issue. AWESOME.

I went to pick up my glasses, and they (literally) fell apart. Just a screw, but wtf?

Also, our piece of shit car... We've had AAA out twice because it wouldn't start. We're pretty sure we had the battery replaced 1 year ago, but AAA tech said it's the original battery. Never been removed. It took him an hour to get the bolt out that holds the battery in place. If not for his dedication, we wouldn't have a car today either.

All this since my last post. That card was a warning. And with Mercury retrograde added, yikes. :(
 

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I'm sorry to hear this all, @Incognitus and hope that everything will get better.

If you believe that it can be connected to King Paimon, as a form of punishment or consequence for using his energy in your work in an inappropriate way, then the best way to fix this is either keep yourself to the plan and connect with him and try to fix things between you to make these stop, or cleanse the whole house, including yourself and everyone who is living there, and ask for protection (both physical and mental) daily.

In this case I'd suggest you to either cleanse the items you have the Sigil on or burn them, but do not let them to vibrate these negative energies which are probably makes things worst. Archangel Michael is a great protector, you can ask him for any kind of help, protection and cutting the etheric / energetic / astral bonds between you and any living being you contacted. This is something what you can also ask for daily, and can help you a lot.

Remember, that the situation where you are in puts your consciousness and your heart to the test. One of the best feeling what can help you to stand still in these hard times is nothing else but gratitude and love. Try to think about what you are grateful for - if you want, you can lead a diary and write at least 3 things per day what you are grateful for -, look around, fill your heart with love, and spread this energy towards yourself, every items, things you have and towards your beloved ones. Think about that they are here for you, they are with you, and do not let that this storm break you.
I had to take some time to think about some of this. BTW, I talk about Jaide , but not sure I mentioned yet that Jaide is my wife, and when I say we I mean me and her. Just clarifying that she's real and is not me, hah. I'm pretty sure. She's just so awesome it sometimes seems like a dream.​
You didn't mentioned this to me, however I've checked out several Introduction when I landed on this Forum, and I figured out that you and her are a couple. So what I'm telling now is for both of you:

Stay strong!
Life will not bring you greater challenges what you could not overcome.​
 
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