Dealing with discouragement

[ward]

Greetings all
How do you deal with people who discourage you when it comes to achieving serious material success with serious magick. Many practitioners on YouTube specifically , who seem too much towards theurgy , state that " no demons won't always give you what you want and if you tell them i want to be wealthy and successful they gonna f*ck you off , they're not your daddy and mommy ....etc " how do you deal with it ? I feel so much disappointed and discouraged

 

[ashlesha]

Usually occult practices lean heavier on the theurgical/mystical or the sorcerous/results-based. People in one camp will try knocking the people on the other camp, for a variety of reasons.

There is value in the reality check of demons not giving you everything you want, not necessarily because they'll outright refuse you, but because they can't. Magic works by manipulating probability. If you want serious wealth, you need to have the basis of a life that can make money where the probability can be stirred in your favor. If you want to meet new boys/girls, you need to get out more. If you want protection, going to the dangerous parts of the city at 3AM isn't setting your magic up for success.

All that said, a good magician can make even unlikely things happen. Magic is a skill and talent like anything else, it takes practice! If you're discouraged by youtube videos, quit them and get back to your spells! Get a good relationship with several spirits, and watch your life blossom over months and years.

 

[Robert Ramsay]

Greetings all
How do you deal with people who discourage you when it comes to achieving serious material success with serious magick. Many practitioners on YouTube specifically , who seem too much towards theurgy , state that " no demons won't always give you what you want and if you tell them i want to be wealthy and successful they gonna f*ck you off , they're not your daddy and mommy ....etc " how do you deal with it ? I feel so much disappointed and discouraged

It doesn't happen very often, but I attempt to impress upon them the validity of my approach ("this is actual known science - I'm not clever enough to make up new science and I'm not stupid enough to try and prove current science wrong") and then if this doesn't work, my usual last reply is "I can't help what you think"

 

[ward]

Usually occult practices lean heavier on the theurgical/mystical or the sorcerous/results-based. People in one camp will try knocking the people on the other camp, for a variety of reasons.

There is value in the reality check of demons not giving you everything you want, not necessarily because they'll outright refuse you, but because they can't. Magic works by manipulating probability. If you want serious wealth, you need to have the basis of a life that can make money where the probability can be stirred in your favor. If you want to meet new boys/girls, you need to get out more. If you want protection, going to the dangerous parts of the city at 3AM isn't setting your magic up for success.

All that said, a good magician can make even unlikely things happen. Magic is a skill and talent like anything else, it takes practice! If you're discouraged by youtube videos, quit them and get back to your spells! Get a good relationship with several spirits, and watch your life blossom over months and years.

The point from watching videos, testimonials and reviews is gaining as much knowledge and information as possible as you know knowledge is power .... you're right maybe I should quit seeking validation from people . Thank you so much for kindness

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It doesn't happen very often, but I attempt to impress upon them the validity of my approach ("this is actual known science - I'm not clever enough to make up new science and I'm not stupid enough to try and prove current science wrong") and then if this doesn't work, my usual last reply is "I can't help what you think"

Exactly ..... thank you so much

 

[HoldAll]

I think the meaning of "To Be Silent" (as in "To Know, To Dare, To Will, To Be Silent") needs to be extended to listening to youtubers and other social media influencers. It's one thing to read an author's disparaging opinion in a book but much harder to dismiss (and forget!) what some real live person told you straight to your face - it's like he or she was personally putting a jinx on your schemes. What has been seen cannot be unseen, as they say, and even with strongly-held convictions, you'll still end up somewhat rattled and ambivalent.

In contrast to books, many youtube videos are all about winning subscribers, about personal opinions, about unique styles of presentation and appearing 'fresh', no matter if they keep rehashing centuries-old subjects. Additionally, all youtubers are under immense (financial) pressure, and the easiest way to generate clicks is controversy (scandals, secrets, outrageous claims, etc.) - which isn't such strong a motive for book authors and may even damage their reputation. So if a youtuber, for example, put out a video titled "Why calling up demons is a bad idea!!" and triggered a shitstorm among furious demonolaters, it'll be all money in the bank. Follow youtubers long enough (as I did on several non-occult topics), and you start to realise when the guys have their off-days, try too hard, come across somewhat forced because of a temporary lack of ideas, recycle old videos with a contrived new spin, etc. I don't envy them because as soon as their livelihood starts to depend on youtube, they'll become part of a content machine and will do almost everything to stray relevant.

Instead of randomly clicking on every video which the algorithm may throw up and that seems vaguely interesting, I'd stick with reputable youtubers if I were you (there are other Forum threads about youtube as well):

Occult Youtube Megathread

Anyone got any recommendation for some occult youtubers if any

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