Dealings with Beleth

[Helix33]

I was considering Beleth for guiding a personal business project to success, (physical products) since Beleth is said to aid in diverse arts and liberal sciences, as well as gaining general favor of people. I've also heard of a craftsman quality to him/her.

I'd like to ask what you've experienced from Beleth's presence if you've ever contacted him.

 

[SeekerPS]

I was considering Beleth for guiding a personal business project to success, (physical products) since Beleth is said to aid in diverse arts and liberal sciences, as well as gaining general favor of people. I've also heard of a craftsman quality to him/her.

I'd like to ask what you've experienced from Beleth's presence if you've ever contacted him.

I had a good relationship with Beleth. But I just used him/her/it whatever to get laid, so, no idea about your goals. I find it to be a pretty lustful spirit

 

[Helix33]

I had a good relationship with Beleth. But I just used him/her/it whatever to get laid, so, no idea about your goals. I find it to be a pretty lustful spirit

Thats the odd thing about it. People say Beleth is a lust spirit. He definitely can do that, but I noticed she generally made people more "endearing and sweet" towards me. It was more attentive, helpful, and playful around me. This fits more with the older description of causing "doting" love. (Def: endearingly fond and uncritical)

The Book of Oberon says he teaches Liberal sciences, the Solomon books say he taught Noah or Cham mathematics. Magicians have say on YouTube that he "refines" anything you want to improve about yourself or your life. So I guess he can do many things.

 

[Faria]

I'd like to ask what you've experienced from Beleth's presence if you've ever contacted him.

Have you ever wondered why The Bible is called that? Someone a long time ago did, and the answer they found didn't sit well with them so they put the matter into the lore of demonology. They discovered that the word Bible comes from the name of one of the major cities of the ancient world and the deity worshiped there named Baalat. The exact identity of this deity remains obscure, but it was patron of Byblos (modern day Lebanon), a center of all arts and sciences. Most authors identify it as an Ishtar-Aphrodite type deity of womanhood, but it's more likely one of the mother figures of these deities as the cult stretches back into prehistory. All of that added up to something that was clearly one of the more powerful influences on ancient culture, hence a King in the Goetia.

I have two entirely different experiences of this spirit to share, you can take it or leave it.

This spirit is not really suited to romance of any sort, its power is ... fame. This is the spirit to call upon if you want to become famous. Everybody knows fame has a price, and that price is what this spirit will disclose. What must you do for recognition? It's different for everyone. Both of my experiences with this spirit involved performers attempting to hit the big time.

I really don't feel like describing either of these incidents, so the distillate tastes like this: You have to be some kind of fool to become famous in performing arts. If it's not working, it's probably not stupid enough. In one case, the person chose a more "regular" lifestyle than the one success demanded, and in the end concentrated exclusively on choir. I got a very entertaining tour of the world of performing arts. In the other case, the person ended up having major brain surgery and I suspect that the spirit facilitated his recovery. Both of these people did not achieve the massive global recognition they desired for one simple reason: they deliberately rejected it once it became clear what would be required of them.

 

[Helix33]

Have you ever wondered why The Bible is called that? Someone a long time ago did, and the answer they found didn't sit well with them so they put the matter into the lore of demonology. They discovered that the word Bible comes from the name of one of the major cities of the ancient world and the deity worshiped there named Baalat. The exact identity of this deity remains obscure, but it was patron of Byblos (modern day Lebanon), a center of all arts and sciences. Most authors identify it as an Ishtar-Aphrodite type deity of womanhood, but it's more likely one of the mother figures of these deities as the cult stretches back into prehistory. All of that added up to something that was clearly one of the more powerful influences on ancient culture, hence a King in the Goetia.

I have two entirely different experiences of this spirit to share, you can take it or leave it.

This spirit is not really suited to romance of any sort, its power is ... fame. This is the spirit to call upon if you want to become famous. Everybody knows fame has a price, and that price is what this spirit will disclose. What must you do for recognition? It's different for everyone. Both of my experiences with this spirit involved performers attempting to hit the big time.

I really don't feel like describing either of these incidents, so the distillate tastes like this: You have to be some kind of fool to become famous in performing arts. If it's not working, it's probably not stupid enough. In one case, the person chose a more "regular" lifestyle than the one success demanded, and in the end concentrated exclusively on choir. I got a very entertaining tour of the world of performing arts. In the other case, the person ended up having major brain surgery and I suspect that the spirit facilitated his recovery. Both of these people did not achieve the massive global recognition they desired for one simple reason: they deliberately rejected it once it became clear what would be required of them.

I read about the name Baalat Gebal, the patron of Byblos. I never found much about what she was actually associated it. The Britannia website says Byblos was regarded the founding place of the Phoenician alphabet, thus the center for its sciences and scholarhood. Baalat Gebal presided over the interpersonal affairs such as government, trade commerce, and the arts. She also ruled fertility, thus the cultivation of abundance. During the Crusaders' occupation of the city, they called it "Gibelet".

I guess the grimoire description saying "all the love that may be", stands for being widely loved by many. (Subjects, countrymen, lovers, passion for arts, etc)

 

[SeekerPS]

Getting a little bit over what Faria says: Beleth is ranked as King, his nature is solar and that makes him a proud spirit. I think the reason why I went along with him is because both of us are lustful, period. Now I have grown to dislike the ideas of offerings, but I did offerings for him (during sexual encounters) and that I think was the reason he helped me. I wouldn’t like to do any bargaining with a king without offerings if I have not any good leverage on the transaction.

Now for what you want, I think paymon or belial are better. I don’t have experiences with those since I have not looked for fame or recognition

 

[Helix33]

Getting a little bit over what Faria says: Beleth is ranked as King, his nature is solar and that makes him a proud spirit. I think the reason why I went along with him is because both of us are lustful, period. Now I have grown to dislike the ideas of offerings, but I did offerings for him (during sexual encounters) and that I think was the reason he helped me. I wouldn’t like to do any bargaining with a king without offerings if I have not any good leverage on the transaction.

Now for what you want, I think paymon or belial are better. I don’t have experiences with those since I have not looked for fame or recognition

I have thought about Paimon. Years ago, I had undergone a business project with him. But I abandoned the project because the community space was absolutely toxic and I didn't want it anymore. He was furious but things lightened up after a while. Now I been hesitant about approaching Paimon again.

 

[ROL13]

I had a good relationship with Beleth. But I just used him/her/it whatever to get laid, so, no idea about your goals. I find it to be a pretty lustful spirit

Hi SeekerPS, What method did you use? It would be great if you could share your experience. Best regards from latam.

 

[SeekerPS]

Hi SeekerPS, What method did you use? It would be great if you could share your experience. Best regards from latam.

Hi! I used a mix of Gallery of Magick demons of Magick, and conjurations from Goetia of dr Rudd. Also when I was going to have sex with the targets, what I did was summon and activate the sigil first (I printed it in paper) and then hide it in the bedroom while active, dismissing him after the targets were gone.

If you want a more step by step guide this is what I did

I waited until midnight. At the time, I didn’t concern myself with astronomical timing, but I would suggest paying attention to it if you’re performing the ritual yourself.


I covered the table with a black cloth and used both the general sigil and the demon sigil from the Gallery of Magick book, along with some incense. I remember using a blend marketed as Saint Cyprian incense, mainly because of the thematic connection—Saint Cyprian being traditionally associated with wizards and witches—but any incense would probably suffice.


First, I listened to the regular relaxation exercise from New Avatar Power to help me enter a somewhat hypnotic or trance-like state.


Then I performed the LBRP, followed by Ritual 2 from the book, continuing until I reached the point where I was ready to call the demon. At that stage, I used the invocations from Dr. Rudd, incorporating the name of the corresponding Shem angel.


I would then state my intention clearly and verbally. After that, I performed the banishing and brought the ritual to a close.


If I were going to change anything about the ritual now, I would perform it on a Sunday, around 1 p.m., or during the closest solar hour to midday. I would also incorporate a black mirror into the setup, along with the Bornless One ritual.

 

[kaigualvez]

thats nice