Difference between angels and demons

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In occultism what is the difference between angels and demons?
Whether It is difference in appearance or nature, Offering or work field?
If both are helpful and give assistance in magic, why they are mentioned as different entities?
In spritual world how they behave differently ?

As with all things its been my experience that these being, and others, all live on a gradient. The Angels that Dee and Kelley spoke with may have been angels, but they very clearly also seemed to be tricksters. Demon's in disguise? Dee began to feel that the ones they were contacting were diabolical in nature.Or is it that there is in fact no such distinction between the two and they are simply beings living across the same gradient of good and evil that humans occupy?

Likewise Enochian angels are said to be so alien and terrifying that its one of the most feared branches of magic, are they still angels? I have dabbled in this area and found things so unnervingly raw that I could not possibly look further at the time.

This is the distinction drawn in the east, where countless heirarchies exist, each one not so different from its other neighbors. There many be 'demons' that trend towards helpfulness. If we believe that within all of us exists a spark of the divine that returns towards the true one, does that simply fade away never to return if we spend a life time in some minor hell?

 

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A quote from Crowley himself

"was in the death struggle with self: God and Satan fought for my soul those three long hours. God conquered — now I have only one doubt left — which of the twain was God?"

when referring to Hebrew Lore "Adonai" ..... Adonai and his angels are typically seen as celestial and righteous ( bound to the cosmos ) that operate on higher frequencies. Some "holy" angels however are bound to guard over sheol ( hell ) like Malik and the Zabaniyah, Uriel, Abaddon who is the angel of the "the pit". More complex angels with conflicting lore like Samael ( the accuser / angel of punishment/ angel of death in the Talmud "Good angel tasked with dirty work under Adonai" ) but in Kabbalah he's seen as the consort to Lilith herself and the archenemy of Israel.

Gnostic interpretation of "Adonai" claim that he is a "false ruler" according to the Apocryphon of John. We talk about Archons which rule over the different planets and planes of reality. They function similarly to a prison warden. In Gnostic texts Samael and Adonai are the same entity but different names for " the Demiurge". Adonai is perceived as lower frequency and antagonistic in these texts.

Demons/ Infernals/ Goetia are normally perceived as low vibrational ( bound to Sheoul ). Words like Satan translate to "adversary". Howeverrrrr... Azazel a prominent grigori that corresponds to Saturn and Duedal translates to "scapegoat" ( something to place blame on to ). Azazel's crime against Adonai was educating humanity on weapons, cosmetology, and procreation of the Nephiliem. Azazel is one of the few fallen angels that wasn't exiled to Hell but rather exiled and bound to Dudael ( a desert in the material plane). Lucifer simply questioned his own angelic autonomy against Adonai. Lilith didn't want to be subservient to men. We perceive these demons to be distrustful and deceiving according to Abrahamic lore, however their "crimes" seem rather trivial compared to Adonai's wrath against humanity who has committed genocide, mass smiting of villages and individuals several times. He also cursed the entirety of humanity for one woman simply perceiving knowledge he did not want humanity to perceive. So what did Eve perceive that was so damning to her entire bloodline ?

In my opinion, there is no real distinction between "angels and demons". "God" or "Satan"... as above so below, they're all the same just with different ranks in their respective hierarchy, different correspondences and different ways of being useful to the devotee/ practitioner. Some entities are bound to the cosmos and "heaven" , some bound to Hell, and some bound to the material plane. Which side of the "battle field" is more "trustworthy and honest" to the practitioner is objective and up to the practitioner's discernment.