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Do you believe in karma?

ArchonLynx

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Karma affects normal people if you do certain types of magic you are void of karma. Look at the millions in history that lived great life's but were horrible people, look at the nicest people in the world who get nothing. Karma is like believing in Jesus it's not gonna do anything outside your personal beliefs of it.

If u believe in karma it affects only you
 

asger

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My humble view is that every action you do alters your internal coherence, alters external relational links towards other consciousness around you , alters probability distribution of future outcomes...
The question is, does actions and consequences of those actions sediment, accrue and persist trough death and rebirth?
I guess even more interesting question would be, does rebirth exits :)
 

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I believe in consequences (especially in the domain of magick). But I also do believe that the "karma returns to you" adage is wrong.
 

Zander

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I do, but not in the mainstream way. In my view, Karma weighs on our reincarnation, not in this life. Too many injustices rewarded have convinced me of this.
 

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I wouldn't say I am a huge believer in karma, at least not popular ideas about it. I've definitely experienced things some people would say are karmic, but I think I prefer not to worry about it at the end of the day.
 

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I believe in karma, although I view it more as a teaching and learning tool, to show us our own reflection. I don't see it as a punishment, per se.
 

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Humans are on a speck of habitable rock, floating in an infant vacuum.
It may take a generation or two, but what goes around will come aro7nd because it has no where else to go.
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Humans are on a speck of habitable rock, floating in an infant vacuum.
It may take a generation or two, but what goes around will come aro7nd because it has no where else to go.
I should correct the typos in that, but I won't.
 

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I don't believe in karma personally since time and time again, you see people around you who did terrible things but got away with those crimes. That why I don't believe in the "Three-Fold Rule" that Wicca believes in because I never seen it happen to anyone that should have gotten that according to Wicca.
 

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I think the right question on this topic would be: have you been convinced of the existence of karma, rather than whether you believe in karma? Karma without samsara, moksha, and reincarnation makes no sense. However, all four things make no sense outside the Indian and Buddhist cultural context. And this is not just a matter of culture, but also of magical forces that shape that very culture. If you are born, for example, in Tibet, India, or are originally from that part of the world, then these things affect you. However, if you are from the eastern part of Serbia, from Wallachia or Transylvania, then it somehow seems natural that you occasionally suck other people’s energy. That is the "cultural context".
 

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We could tease out cause/effect for anything, be it moral or otherwise, if we knew the interactions between all 'parties', but we can never know as far as I'm concerned.

Genetics, subconscious drives, chemical imbalance, or something more subtle or invigorated by spirit?

Who knows?
 

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Não sou exatamente uma grande crente nesse assunto, mas em certo ponto me convenci porque as coisas simplesmente continuavam acontecendo comigo.
Principalmente depois de mexer com o que as pessoas chamariam de magia negra.
O que você acha?
Não sou exatamente uma grande crente nesse assunto, mas em certo ponto me convenci porque as coisas simplesmente continuavam acontecendo comigo.
Principalmente depois de mexer com o que as pessoas chamariam de magia negra.
O que você acha?
Acredito que sim
 

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Personally, I've always viewed karma as just cause and effect.

And your view may be correct .

As , if one examines the original writings on it , in ancient Indian texts like the Vedas and early Sutras , karma literally means a universal law of cause and effect . But then it got combined with all sorts of religious theology and justifications eg. '' the poor and sick suffer due to their 'bad karma ' but me, being healthy and rich , that is due to my good karma ... who am I then to interfere with 'karmic justice' ? '' . - Blerk !

The original idea may have been more like the Egyptian principle of Ma'at - a type of 'divine order' . Perhaps even the laws of cause and effect in physics , and in modern ecology ; karma simply means ; you piss in your water , you get pissy water ... but it is not personal ... you do bad stuff, you might 'get away with it ' but it sill causes suffering .... your ' water ' might be fine , while people downstream ..... ugh !

It certainly is not applicable on a personal level , as many above have pointed out , people do terrible things and seem to continue to avoid any punishment or retribution . Even if retribution is taken , others then suffer as well .
 

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I think karma is a very important concept but it doesn't always play its part, definitly not immediately. More often than not humans do encounter situtations where they have to act for karma themselves; like, for example, if no one arrests criminals, most of them wouldn't be facing any consequences naturally. I think that the fact that a lot of awful people are in power and face no consequences for their actions speaks for itself as proof that we really can't just rely on 'natural' karma. That being said, I do believe there are entities whos job is to reward good deeds and to give harsh lessons and correct the path of the evil. One in particular I like to belive in is Shani, and while I do think these entities aren't constant and we do need to take matters to our hands most of the times, there are cases where karmic things did happen with no human involvement that I don't think can be explained by mere coincidences, so I do think there IS something out there responsible for that, but I still feel like we shouldn't rely on that alone.
 
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