Do you think Trump is a practitioner ?

[MorganBlack]

ENXP isn't an MBTI type.

This is going off topic, but you may not be aware "X" is often used to designate someone like myself, who is 50 / 50 Thinking / Feeling.

 

[zamradiel]

Final note, and I acknowledge this is off topic:

"X" is not part of the standard MBTI model. Official types always use one letter or the other. So you're correct that I wasn't aware of that usage... reason? It's not part of the MBTI system itself.

I will leave it there.

Regards,
an ENFP.

This is going off topic, but you may not be aware "X" is often used to designate someone like myself, who is 50 / 50 Thinking / Feeling.

 

[MorganBlack]

Golly. Thanks, Professor. We'll keep using it over here. It's actually useful.

And for anyone who is interested and open to learning about American mind magic and mysticism, which Trump may or may not practice, I recommend Mitch Horowitz's excellent books, including his 2009 book:

 

[BMicic]

Holy God, no… I personally think he’s way too limited and stupid for something like that.

 

[Ananda]

Trump's dementia has progressed pretty rapidly. The United States itself was set up and and is controlled by occult practitioners though.

 

[nargile57]

1million% agree on this.

There's zero chance he practices anything occult or even traditionally religious. He is a materialist through-and-through that is gifted at reading and manipulating people, and has what I've heard called "charisma trap" energy. If anything, it's more like he had natural psychic gifts he squandered on money for most of his life. How often has something he's said become a national obsession, even if ironically saying it? Covefe and the like. His natural capture of the media is part of it.

Much like the joke my spouse and I have when she manifests the things she wants, use of "witchy powers" to bend reality is just part of the landscape for him. Him rejecting that as a materialist mean that other people have seen it and harnessed it for their own benefit.

The body and what's inside it have both outlived what is needed to get over the hump and become a lasting mental fixture for millions of people. No matter your opinion, most of the world contributes mental energy to him every day. Look at us now? We're all doing it and know what it means. I agree that once he inevitably shuffles off this mortal coil, as will we all, those invoking his name will be able to pull energy for decades to come, maybe longer.

Agree with this, he has nothing to do with the occult, he is a money man, plain and simple.

 

[Morell]

On other thought...

If we ask if the Trump is target for spells, then yeah, a lot of magic aimed his way. But if he is actively doing something... I don't think so. His most magical thing was ai picture of himself as a pope. (maybe there are few people who printed that one out and worship it in secret...)

 

[svinno777]

Trump had his own kabbalah teacher and converted too judaism. Hes definitely a practitioner.

 

[Robert Ramsay]

Trump had his own kabbalah teacher and converted too judaism. Hes definitely a practitioner.

Aside from the fact he can barely string a coherent sentence together, I'm pretty sure this is not correct. Do you have any reliable sources, or is that a daft question?

 

[svinno777]

Aside from the fact he can barely string a coherent sentence together, I'm pretty sure this is not correct. Do you have any reliable sources, or is that a daft question?

One of his books art of the deal talks about his kabbalah mentor /t eacher. and he converted to judaism you can even ask chat gpt.

 

[Seimulluh]

One of his books art of the deal talks about his kabbalah mentor /t eacher. and he converted to judaism you can even ask chat gpt.

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• Some online claims suggest Trump had a “Kabbalah teacher” or referenced mystical teachings. These have been debunked. The confusion comes from passages in Trump’s later book (The Way to the Top, 2004), which compiled advice from other entrepreneurs. A contributor mentioned Kabbalah, but it was not Trump himself.
• There is no evidence that The Art of the Deal or Trump’s business philosophy draws from Jewish Kabbalah.

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[svinno777]

AI:​

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Rumors & Misconceptions​

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Looking at the page in the book right now bud get a life what’s ur email? I’ll take a pic and send it to you d-bag

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Looking at the page in the book right now bud get a life what’s ur email? I’ll take a pic and send it to you d-bag

Book is art of the deal first chapter

 

[SkullTraill]

At this point it seems like he is being practiced on

 

[Rudolfus]

you guys are clowns of the highest order bows yeah i would say trump has probably been initiated to some degree in the mystery schools.

 

[Morell]

you guys are clowns of the highest order bows yeah i would say trump has probably been initiated to some degree in the mystery schools.

Really? Did he enroll as member of Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, or Slytherin?

 

[supremecoyote]

Now,

The Epstein Files have been released and allegedly according to the files Trump may of impregnated a young girl, then had the young girl's baby executed on a boat in Lake Michigan and thrown into the water by the young girl's uncle with associates who bore witness to the scene on the boat. This is taken from the victim's first hand account mind you

Being a practitioner with Oaxacan lineage.... this whole alleged incident seems rather.... ceremonial IF TRUE.

In Central America, The cenotes of Mexico are used as portals to Xibalba ( the Mayan Underworld ). Across different indigenous cultures, and low magickal beliefs, water is sacred, holy, and home to a pantheon of spiritual entities.

The act of mutilating an infant and then throwing the body over board with a small group of witnesses whether mystically intentional or not is bound to have some sort of mystical consequences from my perspective.

Idk yall.... Truth is often stranger than fiction. I did bring up the concept of Moloch earlier in the thread who is a renowned deity that uses human sacrifice as an offering. Which I know is an overused conspiracy at this point, however it's entirely possible that it * may not* be that far fetched from reality at all.

If you browse through the rest of the Epstein files, you will bear witness to a lot of photos taken on the island that do seem rather occult in nature.

The concept of ceremonially corrupting children and trafficked women in the privacy of golden accent walls in NY, Mar a largo, and Epstein Island....

I absolutely am of the belief that Trump may of been introduced to some occult scholars by his buddy Epstein who had such connections. And given that there was a whole temple on the island along side with Epstein's buddy Naomi Campbell who also has island property that sits upon an Eye of Horus... how could one not come to the conclusion that there is more at play here in the shadows of the elite world ?

Do I still think Trump is a conscious willing practitioner of the dark arts ? Most likely not. However could he be used as a vessel for something much bigger than himself and may not even be aware of it ? Probably.

Even if he is christian, The true abrahamic God is very much a God of war and conquest. A simple browse through any of the Old Testament texts will confirm this for you. Gnostics believe the abrahamic God is a warden for the prison that is the material world. Feeding off of suffering and pain. Look at how Christianity/Catholicism, Judiasm and Islam has been used as tools for genocide and conquest. Just because you are of "christian" belief doesn't mean you have to be an individual of virtue and progress. Even The Abrahamic God himself is not above human sacrifice and slaughtering his enemies.

Do I think Trump is aware of how the dark arts are used in practice? Absolutely. Even if I don't think he's a concious practitioner, at the very minimum I do believe he's aware of this world of the occult.

Everyone likes to call Trump an idiot and incapable of being a practitioner, in a lot of ways I see that perspective. But we have to understand this man is a billionaire with access to anyone in the world. That privilege of wealth grants you access to any type of connection you need. Regardless if he's "sundowning" now, he wasn't sundowning then. I think he's a lot more smarter than a lot us give him credit for based off alot people's internal basis against him. I think he just like a lot of us let our pride and ego get in the way of spiritual growth and sovereignty. Clearly he's very successful at achieving anything he wants in life and that I will give him credit for.


Separating Trump from conventional deity worship, money in itself is a whole egregore that deserves some genuine consideration and a whole other conversation about the occultic implications surrounding the worship of money ... so there's that as well.

Trump himself is an egregore.

And now Trump in REAL TIME is attempting world domination and could even be successful at this point....SOMETHING is going on and nobody can convince me otherwise.

Too many strange occurrences for me personally.

 

[Adelina]

AI:​

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Rumors & Misconceptions​

• Some online claims suggest Trump had a “Kabbalah teacher” or referenced mystical teachings. These have been debunked. The confusion comes from passages in Trump’s later book (The Way to the Top, 2004), which compiled advice from other entrepreneurs. A contributor mentioned Kabbalah, but it was not Trump himself.
• There is no evidence that The Art of the Deal or Trump’s business philosophy draws from Jewish Kabbalah.

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Trump actually had kabbalist teacher, can't recall his name at this moment, because it was actually some New Age conman "kabbalist", they are many with generic names.

ChatGPT and other AI services are THE worst sources of information all around. Especially when it concerns politics and their agenda.

Having said that, Trump doesn't look like man in power, he is more like puppet, who simply plays his role. And I doubt he is occultist (I don't think that New Age kabbalist "teacher" counts). However, those who stand behind him are real occultists no doubt.

 

[techniquea2z]

If you watch the movie, "Occult Forces", one of the scenes describes the American President is a 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Mason.

Does this make him a practitioner? Not a good one, necessary. But as referenced by another user earlier in the thread, like Putin, he's protected by hardcore occultists who do nothing else be pursue the The Great Work.

 

[WonderFire]

Yes he is. Trump was raised in a New Thought based church and remains a huge fan of its founder to this day. You can see he follows the ideas of New Thought in how he comports himself.
He is a great lesson in limits of magick, both in positive and negative sense. Unfortunately, he never learned that lesson himself, even when he crashed and burned in that giant bankruptcy he had.