Book Discussion Experiences with Financial Sorcery

[SaiMage]

Salutations to the Esteemed Members,

Humbly seeking inputs about the experiences (if any) of members with the efficacy of Mr. Jason Miller's Financial Sorcery.

With respectful regards,
Sai

 

[solxyz]

I'm a big fan of Jason Miller's work. That said, most of the stuff in the Financial Sorcery book is pretty basic and focused on what you might call baseline financial good fortune. That is, if you keep up the practices and pursue mundane financial well-being in a grounded and consistent way, then over the course of a decade or so you will tend to do quite a bit better than others with your starting position. If I remember correctly, there are a few emergency money spells as well. But really, I don't know of any great magic bullets around these matters, and I kind of doubt that they exist. There is just too much competition for money, and one needs far too much of it over the course of a lifetime, for it to be the kind of thing that magic can definitively solve for us.

 

[SaiMage]

I'm a big fan of Jason Miller's work. That said, most of the stuff in the Financial Sorcery book is pretty basic and focused on what you might call baseline financial good fortune. That is, if you keep up the practices and pursue mundane financial well-being in a grounded and consistent way, then over the course of a decade or so you will tend to do quite a bit better than others with your starting position. If I remember correctly, there are a few emergency money spells as well. But really, I don't know of any great magic bullets around these matters, and I kind of doubt that they exist. There is just too much competition for money, and one needs far too much of it over the course of a lifetime, for it to be the kind of thing that magic can definitively solve for us.

Thank you for your wisdom and insights. Makes total sense

 

[ashlesha]

I really like his invocation of Jupiter & the 4 goddesses in that book, and have used it for a couple years now. For me, it worked great at sending an overall expansion in what I was doing. I used to also use it as a general uncrossing practice, as it's mentioned in the line for Victoria. Nice way to turn crossed conditions into expanse! Like any spell, mantra, practice, or appeal to a deity, it takes practice to really get a feel for how to control the influence. His other book "Sorcerers Secrets"/"Real Sorcery" has some other wealth spells that I used for decent success too.

But if I'm being honest, the major impact for me financially was the Sun and Saturn rather than Jupiter. Saturn created firm stability and aligned me with bureaucracies that controlled my field, while the Sun put me in a position to be recognized by peers and those who used my services, and to be more comfortable with that recognition. Without those 2 influences, the expanse I would get would cause me more anxiety and instability when it worked.

I say this to encourage you to look closely at what you can pair to make it work even better!

 

[SaiMage]

I really like his invocation of Jupiter & the 4 goddesses in that book, and have used it for a couple years now. For me, it worked great at sending an overall expansion in what I was doing. I used to also use it as a general uncrossing practice, as it's mentioned in the line for Victoria. Nice way to turn crossed conditions into expanse! Like any spell, mantra, practice, or appeal to a deity, it takes practice to really get a feel for how to control the influence. His other book "Sorcerers Secrets"/"Real Sorcery" has some other wealth spells that I used for decent success too.

But if I'm being honest, the major impact for me financially was the Sun and Saturn rather than Jupiter. Saturn created firm stability and aligned me with bureaucracies that controlled my field, while the Sun put me in a position to be recognized by peers and those who used my services, and to be more comfortable with that recognition. Without those 2 influences, the expanse I would get would cause me more anxiety and instability when it worked.

I say this to encourage you to look closely at what you can pair to make it work even better!

Thank you so much for your valuable insights. I have been suffering for the last approx 8 years or so with chronic unemployment and extreme bad fortune. Not finding a way. Have tried multiple things. Hence worried as I am in my early 30 years now. Have exhausted all physical means like upskilling and all.

 

[ashlesha]

Thank you so much for your valuable insights. I have been suffering for the last approx 8 years or so with chronic unemployment and extreme bad fortune. Not finding a way. Have tried multiple things. Hence worried as I am in my early 30 years now. Have exhausted all physical means like upskilling and all.

Sorry to hear, that sounds hard right now especially with how the economy is (if you're in america). I could see how this isn't a problem for just Jupiter. If you're more experienced with magic and want to take on a more in-depth approach, in the "Planetary Powers" subsection of the "By the Powers that Be" chapter, you'll find how he utilizes all 7 planets to tackle on the same goal from different angles. The easiest way to do that sort of work is to use the book the Arbatel, which doesn't require anything other than to wake up at dawn for some prayers. There are ways to scale this upwards, such as using Rufus Opus's book Seven Spheres to make it more ceremonial and materially grounded, and then after that using Scott Stenwick's blog on Planetary Magic to call multiple beings along the same hierarchy for singular rites. All of these options use celestial spirits who work over a long period of time and usually for the best. If you want the help of demons, which operate quickly, and give what you want even if it's not good for you, I would look specifically at Bune or Belial!

 

[SaiMage]

Sorry to hear, that sounds hard right now especially with how the economy is (if you're in america). I could see how this isn't a problem for just Jupiter. If you're more experienced with magic and want to take on a more in-depth approach, in the "Planetary Powers" subsection of the "By the Powers that Be" chapter, you'll find how he utilizes all 7 planets to tackle on the same goal from different angles. The easiest way to do that sort of work is to use the book the Arbatel, which doesn't require anything other than to wake up at dawn for some prayers. There are ways to scale this upwards, such as using Rufus Opus's book Seven Spheres to make it more ceremonial and materially grounded, and then after that using Scott Stenwick's blog on Planetary Magic to call multiple beings along the same hierarchy for singular rites. All of these options use celestial spirits who work over a long period of time and usually for the best. If you want the help of demons, which operate quickly, and give what you want even if it's not good for you, I would look specifically at Bune or Belial!

Grateful for your recommendations. Apologies for being ignorant , where I can find the "By the Powers that be" ? In Financial Sorcery itself ? .

With Bune, I am not sure what to make of his powers. As opinions differ on his abilities. Some say he works on existing opportunities, some on the other hand point that wealth generated by him is not substantial or stable. Some say he gives "actual riches". Hence not sure how to approach him.

 

[ashlesha]

Grateful for your recommendations. Apologies for being ignorant , where I can find the "By the Powers that be" ? In Financial Sorcery itself ? .

Look at the table of contents. It's chapter 4.

With Bune, I am not sure what to make of his powers. As opinions differ on his abilities. Some say he works on existing opportunities, some on the other hand point that wealth generated by him is not substantial or stable. Some say he gives "actual riches". Hence not sure how to approach him.

If you haven't worked with demons before, this probably isn't the best time to start while you're in actual desperate need. Start with using them on smaller goals first! Most of their powers can be vaguely interpreted, as they all actually have pretty unique ways of operating that only direct experience can show. Rufus Opus's "Goetic Grimoire" has extensive logs on his workings with Bune in a spirit pot if you want an example of how he perceived his work.

 

[SaiMage]

Look at the table of contents. It's chapter 4.


If you haven't worked with demons before, this probably isn't the best time to start while you're in actual desperate need. Start with using them on smaller goals first! Most of their powers can be vaguely interpreted, as they all actually have pretty unique ways of operating that only direct experience can show. Rufus Opus's "Goetic Grimoire" has extensive logs on his workings with Bune in a spirit pot if you want an example of how he perceived his work.