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First path work meditation

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What I've done already

-Read up some tree of life

-Read up on 32nd path

-Lbrp

-Middle pillar

-Librp

My question:

How do I tie these into the 32 path?

I get that there are meditations via Psalms tarot temple etc, but how do I transition from these rituals to a specific path?
Id also like to know the equivalent for tree of death!
 

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First path work meditation...
How much experience do you already have with magic and Kabbalah? And with meditation? I'm asking because it almost seems to me that you are designing your first ritual.
 

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Mmm this would be my first ritual and the first time meditating for such a ritual. I think ill be in a good meditative state after completing LBRP MPE LIPR, or after some practice.
 

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Mmm this would be my first ritual and the first time meditating for such a ritual. I think ill be in a good meditative state after completing LBRP MPE LIPR, or after some practice.
Thanks.

Though I don't know Kabalah in any real depth, it seems that you want to build a house while not having bricks ready. My suggestion would be to start with practicing meditation and LBRP. Practicing LBRP at least 2 times daily until you gat a hand of it is probably start for you. Along with that mastering meditation, focusing your mind and imagination.

Once you get that down, you can go further and you will know that you can rely on your mastery of those skills as well as on LBRP ritual. It will also give you time to study Kabalah rituals to get a sense of how to design and adapt one to get what you want to achieve.

That's at least my two cents. Others might give better directions, once they see your question.
 

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youre not wrong. The several books im reading do mention meditation exercises, which im all for, but do not mention how to connect to a specific path. They only mention temple meditation and other ones but no clear process using the pentagram rituals, which i have found in other places/ books, but also dont mention how to connect them to pathwork.
 

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youre not wrong. The several books im reading do mention meditation exercises, which im all for, but do not mention how to connect to a specific path. They only mention temple meditation and other ones but no clear process using the pentagram rituals, which i have found in other places/ books, but also dont mention how to connect them to pathwork.
If you use the search function here, you will find plenty of threads on the Qlippoth, and practices.
Like this one:
Qlippothic magic Michael Ford
or some online reading like:
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As I'm sure you know, meditation does not equal meditation. There are many types with many purposes.
In my world, meditation is dislocating my spotlight of awareness from the frontal lobe ego awareness of my daily life, which includes the physical body, all emotions, etc. Once disconnected, I put the spotlight on the part of my being I need for the exercises at hand.
Some people call this different things, like calling on a helper or guide, or asking a spirit to assist, etc. Mine is more personal.
Getting to know these parts, and what they do, has many names. They often have their own set of memories, desires, and what they will and won't do. Forcing them or commanding them usually doesn't work, mainly because each of them has a limited scope of abilities and power.
It is like a form of dissociative practice, with the awareness that these other separated parts keep out all the cesspool garbage from your waking ego and mind, and prevent any forms of esoteric or occult activity from oozing out when they are not wanted or necessary. Some people use Mudra's for this purpose, only putting their hands and fingers in a particular position when doing magic practices, thus activating that part of themselves from a different perspective or point of view that is controlled by specific posturing.
In order for these to work properly, or do anything, they also need to be fed, or have enough power/energy to act/perform. Most of us agree to disagree on the energy batteries and how to keep them charged up, where to find energy, how to collect it, etc. But you will need energy, without it you are stuck in the human waking awareness format, or dreaming format. The jump to another form of consciousness, or altered state of awareness, isn't easy, but it also is easy, because you are letting go to do it. Less is more.

There are many ways to the goal, figuring out which one suits you best is half the fun.
I may post my meditation method some day. I'm not even sure how to put it into instructions or words, but I think it could be done.
I wouldn't know which of the many spheres of human existence are aligned with the Qlippoth, since they destroy their very reason for being when they come in touch with it, and are thus useless to me, since Chaos is not my thing.
 

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how to connect to a specific path. They only mention temple meditation and other ones but no clear process using the pentagram rituals, which i have found in other places/ books, but also dont mention how to connect them to pathwork.
The LBRP are the pieces of bread for your sandwich. After you have done the first, you sit or lay down and visualize the XXI card of the tarot. Keep the card handy to focus on if you want or close your eyes straight away. There's no connecting the pentagram rituals to the path working other than being the frame.
Once you want to return / end the path working you close with the second LBRP.

Edit: @Durward your post is useful but I'm unsure why you think he was asking about the Qlipoth. Doesn't matter.
 

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thanks for the reply, ive read several ford books already. they are way too advanced for me, as i dont have the meditative I know theres a LBRP LHP equivalent but not the LIRP nor middle pillar.

meditation is whats holding me back the most and am looking for suggestions on how other practitioners we able to overcome this.
 

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thanks for the reply, ive read several ford books already. they are way too advanced for me, as i dont have the meditative I know theres a LBRP LHP equivalent but not the LIRP nor middle pillar.

meditation is whats holding me back the most and am looking for suggestions on how other practitioners we able to overcome this.
I believe Asenath Mason might have the type of instructional materials you are looking for?
methods described by Asenath Mason:

1. Preparations and Safety
  • Establish Grounding: Before working with the "Nightside," it is essential to be well-grounded to prevent psychological instability.
  • Set the Space: Perform these meditations in a private, quiet space where you will not be disturbed.
  • Intent: Set a clear intention for the session, such as visiting a specific Qlippothic realm (e.g., Lilith, Gamaliel) to gain self-knowledge.

2. The Opening (Invoking the Dark Side)
  • Adopt a Position: Sit comfortably and enter a state of deep relaxation.
  • The Opening Ritual: Use a specific Qliphothic invocation to signal the start of the work. This may include mantras such as "Ave Aeshugar! Agios o Sitra De-Smola!" (Hail the Infernal Divine, Sacred is the Left Side).
  • Visualize the Symbol: Focus on the sigil or symbol associated with the specific Qlippah you are working with (e.g., in a journal or on a screen).

3. Astral Projection and Pathworking
  • Vibrating Sigils: Intone the name of the Qlippah or the Daemon associated with it to activate the energy.
  • Astral Gate: Visualize the sigil growing large, turning into a gate, and step through it into the astral realm associated with that Qlippah.
  • Engage with the Environment: Observe the surroundings, the colors, and the entities (Dark Gods/Demons) present. These are often described as intense, dark, and chthonic.
  • Receive Information: Interact with the energies or entities, focusing on receiving, rather than projecting, information or power.

4. Integration and Closing
  • Return to Consciousness: Consciously move your awareness back from the astral realm to your physical body.
  • Journaling: Immediately record your experiences, including visions, emotions, and symbolic messages (e.g., serpents, moons, black suns).
  • Grounding: Drink water, eat, or perform physical activity to fully return to the physical world.

5. Key Qlippothic Realms for Meditation
  • Lilith (The Queen of the Night): Focuses on the subconscious and initial, raw power.
  • Gamaliel (The Obscene Ones): Focuses on dreams and sexual energy.
  • Samael (The Desolate Ones): Focuses on destruction of illusions and ego.


 

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ive also have several Asenath books, lilith and the rest of the gang, its the meditative part that i havent been able to get down.

Astral Gate: Visualize the sigil growing large, turning into a gate, and step through it into the astral realm associated with that Qlippah.
ive tried this and i just cant visualize it enough. Same goes for astral projection. this is no minor feat and both her and ford assume the reader can do so..


were you able to pull this off on your first attemp?
 

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ive also have several Asenath books, lilith and the rest of the gang, its the meditative part that i havent been able to get down.

Astral Gate: Visualize the sigil growing large, turning into a gate, and step through it into the astral realm associated with that Qlippah.
ive tried this and i just cant visualize it enough. Same goes for astral projection. this is no minor feat and both her and ford assume the reader can do so..


were you able to pull this off on your first attemp?
I am very capable of 3D visualization, and always have been. I don't practice the Qlipp. I have used other symbols as doorways, but that is directly connected to my ability to astral project and lucid dream. You may have Aphantasia if you can't visualize. But, I have heard that people with aphantasia can still lucid dream and project. So that would be where you need to focus your practices. There is a ton of literature here and all over the Internet with multiple different methods of learning to do that.
So maybe you should start there, with lucid dreaming or astral projection?
To me, and others have their own opinions on this, there will be nothing without being active in your 'other' formats of awareness or altered states.
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Btw, if you practice things until you know them by "heart", then when you do find yourself lucid or projecting, you can then use that practice and memory to create the doorway and possibly pass through. So it isn't really wasted time.
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3 Candles and the Awareness Fulcrum
 
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yes, i have a bad case of aphantasia!

interesting candle theory, just so i understand correctly, i gaze at 3 candles and look for the fulcrum to an altered state, if so ive already started
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i did a similar exercise, curiously from an AsenathM book to invoke Belial as part of initiation into the Qlipoth, which required one candle as well. So i meditated by staring into the candle. any sort of feeling would immediately go away after i blinked.


how would you describe the finer details of the exercise?
 
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yes, i have a bad case of aphantasia!

interesting candle theory, just so i understand correctly, i gaze at 3 candles and look for the fulcrum to an altered state, if so ive already started

i did a similar exercise, curiously from an AsenathM book to invoke Belial as part of initiation into the Qlipoth, which required one candle as well. So i meditated by staring into the candle. any sort of feeling would immediately go away after i blinked.


how would you describe the finer details of the exercise?
When you gaze at 3 candles that have been placed close enough together, it creates a 10-12 cycle per second flicker. This flicker matches the frequency of the fulcrum your mind passes through from waking to sleep, or sleep to waking. So, brainwaves are what slows down to this speed.
The threshold where some magic happens is this slow brainwave format.
The trick is that you have to relax and try to match your own brain to that frequency, or that many flickers per second. That should make you feel tired, trance like, dreamy.
You do this so you know the feeling and can recall that feeling with your eyes closed. There is nothing wrong with blinking and it throwing you back to waking awareness, AND, your mind will likely try to block you when you are getting close. That can take many forms, like sudden bangs, electrical zaps, things touching you. That appears to be a protection system.
So yes, being aware while sleeping or in trance, without the ego mind. That is the goal.
 

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"That should make you feel tired, trance like, dreamy"
"close enough together" yeah mine werent close enough i feel.
I see, I did give it a go for a solid 15 min ( i know nowhere near enough) but got motivated enough to do both LBRP and LIRP, invoking earth and, I have to say, I felt it!
I was even to "see" (with mind's eye) some shapes. I was trying to push towards seeing a chess board, but decided to stop forcing it and ride the wave. I felt a bit heavy (not in a bad way) presumably more "earthy" for a while until i was interrupted (ugh).

thank you for your input!
 
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