[Help] has bdsm ever been interlaced with the occult or did i completely hallucinate this

[A.Nox]

Okay . I was visiting the city , my new GF lived there and I was a ( distant ) member of a group there - I live some 600 km away . She is all excited telling me now she has joined a magical order and would I like to come along to one of their 'teaching nights' ? Sure . We drive out to an inner city 'suburb' and pull up in front of this 2 story block shaped shabby house , overgrown trashy front lawn with a weird looking fire escape type stairway up the side wall to an upper door ( turned out the bottom half was unrelated rented out ) . Well, this looks promising !

Up the stairs... she knock on the door 3 - 1 -3 . A coded knock comes back and more coded knocking passes to and from until a voice demands '' Quo Vardis ? '' and she says her first name and the door is opened ( he could have just said '' Who is it ? '' ) . She walks in and I walk in behind her ''I bought a friend .'' So much for door security . Dude had a full ninja outfit on ! Tonfa and sai ( weapons ) stuck in his belt . '' Who's the ninja ? '' I asked her . ''That's the temple guardian . ''

We went in and it was like a small dirty old style school class room , those seats with a small side table attached , and a big black board on the wall with the 'teacher' .... MY GOD ! Its Robert Ledwich ! He would not know who I was but I knew him ( he used to be on the team that put out 'Dark Circle ' Magazine and would often put pictures of himself in it ... with his name - so he doesnt mind publicity - most often the pictures were highlighting how grossly overweight he was and his new skimpy lingerie selections he liked to model . Obviously he was looking for reactions . They hated me as I used to write all these crazy letters to them ( magazine had a letters column ) calling myself Eric Esoteric ... which infuriated them Tim Hartridge ran the magazine - an infamous Sydney ' magician / witch / warlock ' - who LOVES publicity and his name attached to anything . Tim had a crazy rep ; eg . He sent word out that he was holding ... something ... at a cemetery at night in Sydney and invited all these people to the secret gathering . But he also invited 'Post magazine' a trashy tit and bum silly 'news' trucker magazine .

Right at the appropriate moment the reporters jump out and start snapping pictures , most trying to conceal their identity run off , a few of 'Tim's girls pose semi naked . Tim jumps up on a grave with vampire fangs in and a scarlet lined cloak and poses .

Next week its on the front page of the mag with a header '' Tits out witches bonk naked on gravestones ! '' In my experience I have met 'Gardinarian Witches ' .... 'Alexandrian Witches' , but I have never met a 'Tits out witch ' - obviously my research has been lacking !

The 'lesson ' was about how there had been complaints from the 'brethren ' they want more to do ! So the Order had been restructured .... now the 'higher degree ' rituals had been lowered down to lower degrees and they now had permission to do them said Robert . Copies were handed out . They were photocopied out of MTP . I asked (aside to GF ) '' Cant you just do any of them out that book, yourself ? '' ''Yes, we do anyway .''
''Do you get any instruction on them ? '' ''No . '' ... ''Why is Robert L . here 'teaching ' ? '' '' He is 2nd in charge of the Order , he has left Dark Circle ''. Any other teaching was just basic kabbalah correspondences . One time I took my seat and then noticed the guy next to me was also in a nija outfit . Me; '' What's with the ninja outfit ? '' ''Ohhh , I had one hanging around at home and I just thought I would wear it tonight . ''



Some weeks later GF rings me up at home , freaking out ; '' Fucking Tim Hartridge ! He came around here with a heavy guy and they trashed our temple and abducted Robert L ! ''

''What ? ... How did they get past your ninja door guardian ? '' '' He just licked the door in and the guardian ran away when he saw them .''

-it gets better .

Tim and mate take Robert ... not to anywhere private , but a public park right next door to the local railway station , tie him to a tree, half strip him and start torturing with slaps, pinches and live cigarette burns ; '' You stole our subscribers list to get our members for your Order ... where is it, we want it back .'' etc .

A police car drives past ; '' Gee , lookit that ! '' In questioning them they blurt out ; He broke into our office and stole stuff .... They broke into our temple and trashed it ! ''

Police ; '' Break and enter ? Temple ? What temple where ? '' So Robert L tells them ! Police ; '' We better go and look at the crime scene and this 'temple' then .''

Now the police are walking around the Temple and the 'Frater Superior's' adjoining 'office', going through things , handling ritual items, shuffling through paper work and reading it . Some one thinks ' Hey, Maybe we should ring up the Chief and tell him about this ?''

Well .... maybe ? !

I went to a few more 'teaching sessions ' - the Chief had taken over giving them . Robert L . had this thing going where he had these young uns hanging around him that were either gay or wanted a sex change ( this is decades ago, so a different dynamic to nowadays ). He had a supply of prescription hormone drugs that he used to dose them with . He used to like and try to freak me out , like making his boy?friend sit next to me, then he would push him over so he was touching me . Didnt worry me , I actually made friends with him , Robert didnt like that, he then always made sure he didnt sit him next to me

Yeah , I mucked up , I was a bit cheeky . Word got out that Frater Superior was not happy with me - now you have had it , I was told . I was also told similar warnings by my group ( who I was sharing these shenanigans with ) ; '' We know nasty people that buy guns off him . Get out while you can .'' .... Pfffft !

Eventually one night Barry ( Fr.Superior ) gives everyone an assignment to work on and goes to his office with Robert L . Word had got out that Fr. S was not happy with me and my GF and we were heading for discipline ! Robert L comes out and calls my GF in . Tense silence in the class room . She comes back looking a little freaked out and to me '' Now he wants to see you . '' ... the 'class' is ; Ooooooooo !

So he tries a few 'usual' intimidation tactics on me and I smirk at him across his desk '' Stop trying to jerk me around Barry . '' he smiles .... ''Did you know Crowley was able to get certain nasty things to happen to people that didnt respect his magical power ?''

Me ; '' Yeah, but that was only when he wanted to fuck their girl friends .''

I will give it to the guy ... he knew when the game was up and then was not silly about it .... he laughed . '' You do realize I will have to excommunicate you ? ''

'' Really, even though I have not joined yet ? Great ! I will be the first guy ever to be expelled from 'The Order of the Golden Phoenix' .... before I even joined it ! ''

He laughed at that too. '' Well thats about it I suppose .''

Me ; '' Not quiet . Grab that big book there and slam it down on your table . ''

''What ?''

'' Go on , do it .'' he did ... WHAM ! and I let out a whimpering yell '' Again ! '' wham ... yelp !

The I limp out into the class room making myself look totally freaked out and injured and everyone is

Thats about it , I didnt go back and GF left and joined my group . Hooray ! We stole your Priestess !

I did see Barry and the remains of his Order a couple of years later , They had a small crappy market stall at a market in Sydney , selling the worst looking home made and badly painted GD 'replica' stuff, some silly pamphlets about themselves and how to join up . Barry looked sick and half dead and decaying , like a dug up Egyptian mummy .

I ran into one of the members a few months later and asked about the group .... didnt you hear ? He asked .

Apparently the police were driving by the temple (it was now on their rounds as a 'keep your eye n this place ' ) and a guy ran out on to the road, waved them down and said ... ''No need to look anymore ! I got them right here .'' and pulled out of his top shirt pocket two severed human big toes ! ''

I dont think it was related to the temple but it freaked out the last two or three left in it to leave .

- If you read the write up about 'OPA' in that 'Occult in Australia' book , it certainly doesnt give this impression !

I think Barry passed on , but who knows ? maybe he is back here , re incarnated and happily living out his ' True Will ' ;

I’m sitting in my office reading this, trying to maintain my usual strategic composure… and failing miserably.
I did not expect to find this level of pure chaotic gold on a calm workday, but here we are.

This absolutely made my day — and I say that as someone who usually prefers structure, cold analysis and well-behaved occult discussions.

But this… this is art.

 

[Van Horne]

youll find weirdos infusing BDSM in it claiming their kink is a part of their magic

That would be me then, with the little difference that I don't shove my kinks in anybody's face or use it as excuse for inappropriate behavior. And I seldomly join people, for I dislike them. I usually refrain from joining groups, there is always at least one a-hole, kinky or not.

Jokes aside, I do not wonder there is a connection between occult practice and BDSM. It's about trance, devotion, trust, risk, sacrifice, endurance, transmutation, ego death/self-abandonment etc. In the beginning of the modern occult movement there was a yearning for sexual liberation, IMO this explains the strong sex magick current, and of course this led to shenanigans! In the kink community mutual respect and care is of greatest value, maybe those occult circles described in the posts above could learn a bit from that.

I practiced Kink Magick for quite a time with amazing results. But what happened in the ritual chamber stays between me and Our Lady of the Stars.