Not sure what’s the obsession with tik tok here, I’ve never use that,
Don't get triggered, there is no "obsession" with tiktok here. If you don't use it, then great. I just made a general statement about there being a lot of misinformation and new age nonsense on social media like tiktok, which is what people with short attention spans are often attracted to, and you just gave off the vibe of having a short attention span, so it was just a word of warning.
but I wasn’t saying exactly useful, I just didn’t get it. Books are not my thing and videos are easier.
No. There is nothing to "not get" about books. You are just too lazy to read, or don't have the attention span for it. If you don't have an attention span, or have a scatterbrain, or are otherwise unable to focus, then you have no hope of ever meditating, let alone reaching a trance like state.
It just nothing memorable sticks like they talk about nothing or just talk about giving warnings or just broad answers like you gotta meditate or you gotta set up a foundation, despite not knowing what that even means?
That sounds like a "you" problem.
well despite books being passed down I thought people who read it could talk what it was about, since it’s a lot of words compressed that goe from talking about how to invoke to the one time in middle school they saw some shadow figures and were hardcore goths or along those lines
Of course, people who have read books can talk about them and summarise then to others who are familiar with the subject. But if you are a complete newb, you're not going to glean anyything useful from it because you don't know anything about it, and someone would have to literally spend a month going back anf forth with you explaining the whole book in easily digestible chunks just for you. That's spoonfeeding and no one is gonna do that. Read the books.
I’m guessing there’s no tldr or simple way to explain it
You are guessing right.
I get that but I don’t know what books to read, someone did state some books here to read now, but most answers were to find books (I got them on Reddit too s Connolly apparently the bread and butter of demonolatry).
Yes, you were recommended some books. The people who recommended you to "find books" are probably people who are not intimately experienced with reaching trance states themselves.
Like it’s known there’s a lot of fraud books on spirits and demonology and to even know they are fraud books is I gotta READ them till halfway to realize it’s a fraud which is exhausting.
On WF, you will not receive fraud book recommendations, and if you do, someone will mention/correct it.
I’m not asking to be spoon fed I just get a lot of broad answers, I’m told to go meditate this or that but for what learning of what?
But you are. There is no "one, true, simple path" to achieving a trance state. You have to first master meditation, that's for sure, and it definitely sounds like you haven't done that. So why not start with that. Practice daily, try to find reputable books about it, because they do exist. If you just scan the first page of google and find those books to not be to your liking and then give up, then you don't deserve anything. Do some real research. Stop being a lazy bum. Learning to meditate might be really hard for you, and there will be no "simple tricks" anyone on the internet can tell you to make it happen over night. Seriously, keep practicing every day, journal your progress, find out what works and what doesn't work, and keep at it until you can properly meditate. We don't know you, we don't know your mental state, we can't observe you while you meditate, so we can't give you easy simple advice. If you want some direct mentorship, find a nearby monk, and seek their assistance in meditation.
Patience and willpower or self control sounds like everyday stuff
Everyday stuff that you suck at. So how do you expect to do exceptional stuff when you can't even do everyday stuff?
I expect like a follow up to those suggestions since there’s other ways to do that (sounds more like life advice than magick).
Meditation and trances are not really "magick" per se. There's no "ritual" to enter a trance state when you don't even know how to meditate on your own. At least to my knowledge.
there’s gotta be steps here atleast, telling me to meditate is nowhere as most of my life I have done it and I get nothing at all.
Then you haven't done it properly.
Well I thought if I asked I could get more understandable answers but I guess I should have done it alone from the start.
Don't be bitter. A lot of people come to this site expecting us to just magically give them a solution that requires no work, no practice, no materials/expenses and get results in a few hours or days... that's not how any of this works. You impatience, your stubbornness, your insistence on it being easy, simple etc to achieve trance is holding you back.
Also reading Demons of magick a lot of the sentences are mushed together into a wall of text so it’s harder to read
Come on you lazy fuck. Learn to read a book. Ffs. "Books are hard cause they have too much text" oh boo hoo. Pay a fucking stripper to come cuddle you and read the books to you off a kindle as a bed time story then.
Alternatively, risk death and reach instant trance by buying and smoking some good quality DMT.
) but some basics there are well explained. Hopefully, It will be useful for you as you like videos.
