How Poland is particularly cursed among countries?

[PolishTruthSeeker]

Tell me the truth.
The amount of suffering in Polish soils, whether from occupations, genocides and politics is unbearable.
I wonder what our ancestors did so that we are cursed.

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 10:27 AM

I will mention particular curses that were placed upon Poland, according to my clairvoyant senses - and that's not me cursing this land, that's everybody else most probably cursing Poland:

• Poland probably will always face wars
• Poland will be always divided, even by trivial things like disco polo, neighbors having it better etc.
• Poles will turn against Poland, especially women, who hate this country
• Poles will always be in a conflict with their neighbors like Ukraine (due to "enslaving Ukrainians", allegedly), Germany (due to allegedly killing Germans prior to WWII), Jewish inhabitants of Poland (due to pogroms and Holocaust), Russia (due to conflicts particularly in 1920 between Poland and Russia), Lithuania (due to allegedly occupying them for a long time), because we are cursed
• Poles will always have the most dramatic political shifts from left or right, you can see it by the amount of protests in Poland
• Poland is cursed with the wrath of immigrants (especially those of Islamic faith, but also non-white, as Poland apparently is racist) that probably will take a revenge on Poland for alleged bad treatment
• Polish-Ukrainian conflicts are gonna be stronger, as Ukrainians have grievances against Polish "Sirs", Volynian massacres at this point don't even matter
• Poland will be cursed as a polytheistic-pagan society that doesn't adhere to Noahide laws
• Poland will never have good art nor music, as everything according to many is censored by Vatican, comparable to Communist censorship
• Polish people will always nto be believed by the police, not be helped by the medicians, not even firefighters, because Poles are considered mentally ill
• For Poland, the crisis like Covid, wars, AI will always have worst outcomes
• The bad spirits, even good spirits will always be against Poland and if Poles face genocide, Poles will be painfully suffering, for our sins

Sad but true. I'm afraid fate has put onto us particular curse.

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 11:08 AM

The question is, how to reverse the curse

 

[akenu]

Well, Poland would be better if it abandoned Christianity and if Poles stopped believing in this particular curse. This isn't the first time I have heard this

 

[diana_i_gusarova]

What you write about Poland can be fully attributed to Russia. Tyranny, serfdom, the treatment of people as slaves and "cannon fodder", the dictatorship of the state-owned Church, and so on. Both Russians and Poles abandoned their pagan roots, adopted another faith - Orthodoxy or Catholicism, therefore they lost the protection of their Native Gods. Whether this can be fixed is a difficult question. The dictatorship of the Orthodox Church is now being almost openly established in Russia, while in Poland the authorities prefer to have good relations with the Vatican.

 

[PolishTruthSeeker]

What you write about Poland can be fully attributed to Russia. Tyranny, serfdom, the treatment of people as slaves and "cannon fodder", the dictatorship of the state-owned Church, and so on. Both Russians and Poles abandoned their pagan roots, adopted another faith - Orthodoxy or Catholicism, therefore they lost the protection of their Native Gods. Whether this can be fixed is a difficult question. The dictatorship of the Orthodox Church is now being almost openly established in Russia, while in Poland the authorities prefer to have good relations with the Vatican.

I agree with you

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 12:57 PM

Well, Poland would be better if it abandoned Christianity and if Poles stopped believing in this particular curse. This isn't the first time I have heard this

Agreed

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 12:58 PM

Have I mentioned Poles drink lots of alcohol?

 

[diana_i_gusarova]

Drunkenness is a symptom. People drink out of despair, because they are unable to change anything in their lives. Often, drunkenness is encouraged by the authorities. Catherine II openly said that “a drunken people is easier to govern.” Peter the Great was an alcoholic and encouraged his entourage to drink. In the USSR during Brezhnev’s era, they fought against drunkenness because it caused serious economic damage, but at the same time they continued to sell vodka, maintaining a state monopoly on it, because it brought large sums of money into the state treasury. We can’t stop other people from drinking, but we can stick to a sober lifestyle ourselves and promote it.

 

[PolishTruthSeeker]

Drunkenness is a symptom. People drink out of despair, because they are unable to change anything in their lives. Often, drunkenness is encouraged by the authorities. Catherine II openly said that “a drunken people is easier to govern.” Peter the Great was an alcoholic and encouraged his entourage to drink. In the USSR during Brezhnev’s era, they fought against drunkenness because it caused serious economic damage, but at the same time they continued to sell vodka, maintaining a state monopoly on it, because it brought large sums of money into the state treasury. We can’t stop other people from drinking, but we can stick to a sober lifestyle ourselves and promote it.

And when people drink, they are getting brainrotted, their artistic taste like musical one is getting worse and morale and morality is getting downhill.

 

[Nembra]

Tell me the truth.
The amount of suffering in Polish soils, whether from occupations, genocides and politics is unbearable.
I wonder what our ancestors did so that we are cursed.

We are not. We just have developed a culture of mythologising our history, probably somewhere around romantism that in some cases has reached pathological levels. Poland is a very typical country for this region, with many of its most recognisable historical points mirrored in Hungary, Czech Republic or Bulgaria. Most countries face wars, most countries are divided, most countries have more or less tense relationships with their neighbors. Neither the political shifts nor the immigration issues are particularly bad here.

I must agree that Poles are unfortunately not very artistically inclined, especially in terms of music. There are quite some world-class artists and even whole styistic schools, but the broad public is hopelessly impervious to most of them.

 

[Mannimarco]

Tell me the truth.
The amount of suffering in Polish soils, whether from occupations, genocides and politics is unbearable.
I wonder what our ancestors did so that we are cursed.

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 10:27 AM

I will mention particular curses that were placed upon Poland, according to my clairvoyant senses - and that's not me cursing this land, that's everybody else most probably cursing Poland:

• Poland probably will always face wars
• Poland will be always divided, even by trivial things like disco polo, neighbors having it better etc.
• Poles will turn against Poland, especially women, who hate this country
• Poles will always be in a conflict with their neighbors like Ukraine (due to "enslaving Ukrainians", allegedly), Germany (due to allegedly killing Germans prior to WWII), Jewish inhabitants of Poland (due to pogroms and Holocaust), Russia (due to conflicts particularly in 1920 between Poland and Russia), Lithuania (due to allegedly occupying them for a long time), because we are cursed
• Poles will always have the most dramatic political shifts from left or right, you can see it by the amount of protests in Poland
• Poland is cursed with the wrath of immigrants (especially those of Islamic faith, but also non-white, as Poland apparently is racist) that probably will take a revenge on Poland for alleged bad treatment
• Polish-Ukrainian conflicts are gonna be stronger, as Ukrainians have grievances against Polish "Sirs", Volynian massacres at this point don't even matter
• Poland will be cursed as a polytheistic-pagan society that doesn't adhere to Noahide laws
• Poland will never have good art nor music, as everything according to many is censored by Vatican, comparable to Communist censorship
• Polish people will always nto be believed by the police, not be helped by the medicians, not even firefighters, because Poles are considered mentally ill
• For Poland, the crisis like Covid, wars, AI will always have worst outcomes
• The bad spirits, even good spirits will always be against Poland and if Poles face genocide, Poles will be painfully suffering, for our sins

Sad but true. I'm afraid fate has put onto us particular curse.

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 11:08 AM

The question is, how to reverse the curse

Your attitude, beliefs, and expectations, all sound like a wickedly effective curse to me. There is no such thing as fate, everything that happens is manifested by someone, or something, usually unconsciously.

Reversing a countries fortunes is a rather large task for one person, to put it mildly, but I'd suggest working to deconstruct your victim mentality, raising and expanding your consciousness, spreading hope to people around you, and becoming a master of Chaos Magick.

 

[PolishTruthSeeker]

We are not. We just have developed a culture of mythologising our history, probably somewhere around romantism that in some cases has reached pathological levels. Poland is a very typical country for this region, with many of its most recognisable historical points mirrored in Hungary, Czech Republic or Bulgaria. Most countries face wars, most countries are divided, most countries have more or less tense relationships with their neighbors. Neither the political shifts nor the immigration issues are particularly bad here.

I must agree that Poles are unfortunately not very artistically inclined, especially in terms of music. There are quite some world-class artists and even whole styistic schools, but the broad public is hopelessly impervious to most of them.

Somehow our suffering is invalidated, even though a lot of Poles suffered, so I mildly disagree.

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 7:38 PM

Your attitude, beliefs, and expectations, all sound like a wickedly effective curse to me. There is no such thing as fate, everything that happens is manifested by someone, or something, usually unconsciously.

Reversing a countries fortunes is a rather large task for one person, to put it mildly, but I'd suggest working to deconstruct your victim mentality, raising and expanding your consciousness, spreading hope to people around you, and becoming a master of Chaos Magick.

Lately I can't access many books as I used to

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 7:39 PM

I must agree that Poles are unfortunately not very artistically inclined, especially in terms of music. There are quite some world-class artists and even whole styistic schools, but the broad public is hopelessly impervious to most of them.

Sadly I agree with this and I don't know how to reverse it.

 

[luotenrati]

I'm Polish. I think it has a lot to do with our geographical location. We're sandwiched right between Germany and Russia which is basically the worst place to be if shit hits the fan.

 

[PolishTruthSeeker]

I'm Polish. I think it has a lot to do with our geographical location. We're sandwiched right between Germany and Russia which is basically the worst place to be if shit hits the fan.

I agree with you here. The potential of Poland hasn't been much reached.

 

[Nembra]

Somehow our suffering is invalidated, even though a lot of Poles suffered, so I mildly disagree.

All suffering is invalidated. A lot of people from all nations suffered. You are not special, we are not special. It's all just availability bias.

 

[Firetree]

I'm Polish. I think it has a lot to do with our geographical location. We're sandwiched right between Germany and Russia which is basically the worst place to be if shit hits the fan.

Bingo !

I am in Australia ... a big physically isolated island away from everyone except Indonesia , who we get on with reasonably well . Ohhh ... aside from PNG and New Zealand ... but they are like cousins ... 'cuzzy-bros' actually

( In New Zealand, "cuzzy-bro" is a very common, affectionate Maori term for a best friend or close companion. It functions much like the word "mate" in Australia )

And not only that , even with the Maori , if approached the right way , with honesty and friendship ... they are awesome !

Even though their deep traditions can make them like this as well ;

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I dont recommend pissing them off though