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[Help] How to summon the spirit of a living person?

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Just to clarify, I don't mean materialising a living person's body or anything like that. I need advice on how to summon/evoke a living person's spirit or soul.
I researched on plenty of websites, books and forums, and the few materials I could find dive into the possibility of doing that through astral projection and to be careful to try it at a time that you could assume they're asleep, because it could possibly induce a trance on them if they're awake (to force their soul to project all the way to you or to enable them to see you). And if they faint/fall asleep while doing their errands on the process of induced-gnosis it could be dangerous.

Let me explain why I want to do it: I won't get into all the details but I have reasons to believe that someone did that to me a couple years ago. I was at my bedroom early in the morning, still feeling sleepy, and I felt myself being pushed to enter a state of gnosis. Next thing I noticed I could perfectly see and communicate with a person in front of me. I was awake and sober, but I felt as if I was hallucinating or heavily imagining something so vivid I could not distract myself from.
I'm indigenous and from latin america and I have experience with dealing with the energy of dead spirits, which is very heavy and burns the back of my neck, and the energy of full deities/entities, which is lighter but confusing to understand, immaterial and non-human-like. That wasn't the case, it felt as someone astral-projecting trying to reach out to me or summon my attention.
We talked for almost half an hour. As silly and fictional as it sounds, I was able to touch that person and feel the material of their flannel coat and dry hands, and I was capable to extract some information. Their name, which place they were from, that they were intentionally contacting me, why they were contacting me and who told them to do it. They told me they had enough information to perform a summoning ritual since they were experienced with demonology and warped some of their practices to achieve that result. I could not accurately identify their gender since they looked androgenous and I honestly didn't even remember to ask due to how shocked I was with the situation back then and because I prioritized more important questions. They were white, american, older than me (I could see wrinkles on their face), with a calm expression and it did seem like they needed my help with some niche spiritual knowledge, but they needed more time to talk, and it seemed like they were trying to tell me how to find them but I could not for the life of myself understand their contact information. The more time passed within this summoning, the weaker they got and more blurred and inaudible they appeared until the connection was cut like a phone without signal.

I also feel like I need to clarify another couple of things. English is not my first language and I'm from an entirely different culture, so I struggle with technical terminology and cultural references from the north globe. And that I'm also a terrible clairaudient and clairvoyant - most of my spiritual practices involve oracles, dreaming divination and channeling/possession. Which is why I know I wasn't dreaming and that I had some sort of help from the other person in order to be able to SEE and HEAR them while awake.

Anyway, I have very little knowledge of demonology, and zero practice. I do not know this person in real life nor could I find them in any social media even though I have their name. That phenomenon never happened again, and it has been almost 3 years. It still bugs my mind and my curiosity to wonder what they needed help with/wanted to talk about/who they are, and how spiritually talented they were in able to achieve that sort of summoning. All this time I had NO ONE to ask for help since it was a very unusual experience and most witchcraft practitioners believe that you can only summon the dead or entities, and most of my people's material, cosmology, practices and psychics are mainly focused on nature spirits and believe there's no such thing as summoning a living soul while awake. I tried astral projecting and meditation all by myself with no success, as I said I'm terrible with visualization. Traveling to America just for this reason alone is out of question (it's a huge country, i'm latin american and not a citizen, i do not know anyone there, it's expensive and also something insane to do just because of something so vague, unusual and uncertain).

So the last few months, since I have more time available, I'm trying to put a considerable effort to study about multiple practices that could help. I've researched about occult north american authors, chaos magick, traditional witchcraft, astral projection, third eye visualization pratices, grounding and protection rituals and reading as many testimonies from practioners that sound similar to this situation as I can. I feel like summoning a living person's spirit is complex enough to require an elaborate ritual, with materials, things related to the person targeted, gnosis-inducing mantras and stuff like that. So, I'm accepting any sort of help, advice or personal stories/testimonies that could contribute to my research and attempt to reach out to this person and answer them. Or at least understand them better. Thank you for your time and I hope I don't sound too out of my mind.
 

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Hello Shockwave!
What a fascinating experience!
Is it possible that the person who summoned your spirit in your first encounter was the spirit of someone deceased coming to see you?
Perhaps some shamanic journey work through Non-Ordinary Reality, with some guides and guardians could help you connect with this individual.
I have some experience and training in navigating Non-Ordinary Reality and connecting with people through journey work, and would be happy to be of assistance if you want to connect about that.
-Tim
 

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trying to reach out to me or summon my attention.

I have commented somewhere on the forum that you can summon the living, usually to obtain specific knowledge they hold in their practice. This is how we experienced practitioners contact one another when we want to work on something as a group.

This is a different kind of summoning than other kinds of summonings. When you summon the dead or spirits, you are calling beings that exist in non physical states. Summoning the living is more targeted, often done for a specific reason like knowledge, collaboration, or direct contact. It is less like evoking an entity and more like issuing an energetic call that reaches the other practitioner’s deeper levels of awareness.

You are not yanking their soul or their spirit out of their body or anything like that at all. You are directing a focused current toward living practitioners. So that on some level they feel the pull, the nudge, or the impulse to connect.
 

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So that on some level they feel the pull, the nudge, or the impulse to connect.
That makes a lot more sense, and it's closer to what I felt at the time. Is it a skill that you develop through subjective empirical experience/try-and-error rather than something you can find in depth through magical registers/western bibliography? Is it more like a connection through telepathy?
 

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Are you absolutely certain it was an actual human person currently in flesh? Telepathy almost completely carried out by one side would be at least a rather extreme feat of power. Some general possibilities do come to mind, but I don't think this looks like either of them.
 

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Are you absolutely certain it was an actual human person currently in flesh? Telepathy almost completely carried out by one side would be at least a rather extreme feat of power. Some general possibilities do come to mind, but I don't think this looks like either of them.
I'm sure it was a human, and a living person, and that they were alive somewhere on earth in flesh at the time (around 2023). I could feel them by touch, but could also tell it wasn't literal materialization of anything like that, more like my mind being able to perceive them very sharply and accurately.
What I'm not sure of is if it was completely one-sided, or if I was able to contribute to the stability of the connection at the time even if I wasn't fully aware it was some sort of telepathy-ish stuff, my lack of knowledge assumed it was astral projection or evocation. At the beggining of the phenomenon it felt like a persistant non visible/blurry presence asking for my attention and I had to let them in to connect with me and actually concentrate to be able to "load" their presence, I just wasn't expecting it to be that vivid and stable, it scared me at first. But I had to consent to let them fully connect to me and start the clear communication.
 

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I'm sure it was a human, and a living person, and that they were alive somewhere on earth in flesh at the time (around 2023). I could feel them by touch, but could also tell it wasn't literal materialization of anything like that, more like my mind being able to perceive them very sharply and accurately.
What I'm not sure of is if it was completely one-sided, or if I was able to contribute to the stability of the connection at the time even if I wasn't fully aware it was some sort of telepathy-ish stuff, my lack of knowledge assumed it was astral projection or evocation. At the beggining of the phenomenon it felt like a confusing but persistant non visible/blurry presence asking for my attention and I had to let them in to connect with me and actually concentrate to be able to "load" their presence, I just wasn't expecting it to be that vivid and stable, it scared me at first. But I had to consent to let them fully connect to me and start the clear communication.
Even such a "blurry" presence is a very difficult matter. Two-way communication in real time is what bothers me about this whole situation. The only way this can be achieved I can think of right now is through acausal means, and this is very high-grade stuff I don't think anyone actually ever wielded to such a point. The much more likely scenario - it seems to me - is that you talked to something spiritual. Was it someone's purposeful projection into the astral realm or a being independently living in there - I don't know. Notice that the fact that you could touch them is not a proof they have a body in the first place. All sensations can be hallucinated, not just sight. From what you're saying there is little reason to assume you've talked directly to a human.
 

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I did this (just a couple of times) years ago when on another forum people would post their own seal / sigil and a personal "Enn" because they wanted their godform to be invoked.
You don't communicate with their conscious though.
 

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That makes a lot more sense, and it's closer to what I felt at the time. Is it a skill that you develop through subjective empirical experience/try-and-error rather than something you can find in depth through magical registers/western bibliography? Is it more like a connection through telepathy?

The cliche about this kind of contact is that it must be unbelievable. But the form that shows up in this contact is not a guaranteed snapshot of the person’s actual physical appearance. The form can be their real appearance, or it can be something very different and is how they wish to be seen.

Because of this, even when you receive a clear image of someone in contact, you are not seeing how they truly look in their physical life. You are seeing a representation that functions within that contact.
 
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