[Help] How to treat depression and other related disorders through the practices

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If anyone here knows anything occult related that could help me to treat my depression, that I have been trying to for months with psychiatrist and psychologist and doesn't seen to be working, I would really appreciate.

angels are good for this, or you could always become a dragon but thats not an easy path either.

 

[danibee13]

You definitely could try sigil work.

a couple months ago I felt down. So I drew a hexagram and I did an “As Above So Below” type process. I put three two negative feelings at the top two edges:

first feeling was “jaded heart” I felt like my ego was in the way of experiencing a friendship to its fullest potential and once distance separated me from that person I was feeling regret.

second thought was “not yet divine” I felt that I am not shining light on others and not yet perfect. This was my way of feeling that I am some type of succubus when I would rather be a healer.

I then flipped the hexagram and challenged the first two emotions. Contradicting each.
First contradiction was in response to jaded heart, it put “swimming above” This was to express the knowing that I have the capability to continue progressing and moving towards being less egotistical and setting my sights on connecting better in the future.

second contradiction was in response to not yet divine, I put “not yet blinded” reassuring myself that I am not totally naive and unaware. I know that I am aware of my action, I just haven’t been able to catch myself before acting through trauma responses. But I understand that I am not a lost cause.

The other two sides are just space and time related…meaning that through travel and fluidity of life, these feelings will come to pass.

I love that there is a book on a magical approach to CBT, I can’t wait to pick that one up. CBT is an excellent tool on reshaping behavioral patterns. But simply, the more you challenge your beliefs and slowly build a discipline with restructuring those thought processes; the more you will start to believe in yourself and feel better.

just always try to see yourself on the flip side of things. I hope this helps point you in the right direction.

 

[HiddenStars]

if you have tried months with conventional treatment, it will takes years with esoteric treatment; things do not suddenly get easier when you take the less traveled path. For convention treatment, months is a very short amount of time; conventional treatment involves the same trial and error with medication and modalities. Don't look to esoteric for easier or faster.

 

[whimsicalwarlock]

if you have tried months with conventional treatment, it will takes years with esoteric treatment; things do not suddenly get easier when you take the less traveled path. For convention treatment, months is a very short amount of time; conventional treatment involves the same trial and error with medication and modalities. Don't look to esoteric for easier or faster.

I think that honestly depends on what the person is more open to or more understanding of. Theres a reason symbolism is still so strongly received even today.

 

[moonbow]

A lot of great posts in this thread. Doing healthy and energizing things like energy work and breathing exercises is just as important as stopping things that actually "depress" you, which lower and harm your energy like too much caffeine, alcohol, cigarettes and any drugs in general, too much sexual activity, consuming too much negative crap on the internet and so on. If you keep lowering your energy and damaging your astral body you'll never get out of a depressed state.

 

[Durward]

From a frequency perspective, when you compare depression to happy and satisfied people, depression shows theta, alpha, and delta are increased, which points to decreased alertness and increased emotional dysfunction networks. The gamma functions that bounce forward and backward, and up and down, constantly scanning and organizing data, are usually off by a Hertz or two. Thus, the 'Funk' is a real thing. There have also been dysfunctions found in the serotonin pathway for some people, producing bufotenine, which is a basic toad venom hallucinogen. One of the easier ways to combat this is to use 40 Hz light therapy, which sometimes helps to restore proper frequency. I do wish it was cheaper to do, but the systems that supply the proper light and frequency can be expensive.
You can try to fix some of this using basic hand exercises, like Mudras. It is surprising how connected the hands are to the brain wave problems.

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  : Press the pads of all fingers together, tapping them to heighten sensory input, which can help transition the brain into calmer alpha or theta states.
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  : Hold your nose with one hand and your ear with the other, then alternate, which engages the cerebral cortex

 

[Ben Gruagach]

I've got a history of depression in my family, and I've struggled with it through my life. The three things that I've found helped the most for me were:
1. Meditation.
2. Physical exercise.
3. Eating healthy, minimizing junk food.

Building routines with those three things really helps. Meditation is the "occult thing" and it really makes a difference but it needs to be part of a regular routine with all three.

 

[FraterFraxinus]

From a frequency perspective, when you compare depression to happy and satisfied people, depression shows theta, alpha, and delta are increased, which points to decreased alertness and increased emotional dysfunction networks. The gamma functions that bounce forward and backward, and up and down, constantly scanning and organizing data, are usually off by a Hertz or two. Thus, the 'Funk' is a real thing. There have also been dysfunctions found in the serotonin pathway for some people, producing bufotenine, which is a basic toad venom hallucinogen. One of the easier ways to combat this is to use 40 Hz light therapy, which sometimes helps to restore proper frequency. I do wish it was cheaper to do, but the systems that supply the proper light and frequency can be expensive.
You can try to fix some of this using basic hand exercises, like Mudras. It is surprising how connected the hands are to the brain wave problems.

dayum, this reminds of a an MK-Ultra paper i found in the us online archives. It was about a technology that would induce specific hz patterns into CRT based monitors/TV's to manipulate emotional/awereness states. Obviously this was used for destructive purposes but the paper statet that the technology worked in their experiments. (sadly i dont remember much details, it is about 10 years ago that ive read that) Also with all the MK-Ultra papers tons of it was blackened.

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Looks like this 40hz method is being researched to combat Alzheimers too, interesting stuff:

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[Durward]

A newer patent, US6506148B2, manipulates the nervous system.
Patent US20030171688A1 uses a feedback system to adjust your brainwaves.
There are a ton more, many of them are likely only tested behind closed doors on 'volunteers'...

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  : Apparatus and method for remotely monitoring and altering brain waves. A system designed to sense and alter brain waves from a distance without the need for physical electrodes.
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  : Remote magnetic manipulation of nervous systems. Focuses on using magnetic fields to remotely affect the sensory resonance of a person’s nervous system.
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  : Magnetic excitation of sensory resonance. A method that can remotely cause a subject to feel bodily swaying or other physical sensations
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  : Subliminal acoustic manipulation of nervous systems. Describes using subliminal acoustic signals to induce specific emotional states or physiological changes.
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  : Silent subliminal presentation system. A technique for delivering subliminal information via a silent sound carrier.
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  : Method and apparatus for translating the EEG into music. Technology designed to translate brain activity (EEG) into music to induce and control various psychological and physiological states
• US5289438A: Method and system for altering consciousness. Utilizes specific stimuli to change a person's state of consciousness.
• US5213562A: Method of inducing mental, emotional and physical states of consciousness. Focuses on inducing specific brain wave patterns to achieve desired mental or emotional states.
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  : Method to maintain peace through electromagnetic energy targeted to the brain. A system designed to influence behavioral outcomes through targeted energy.

 

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if you have tried months with conventional treatment, it will takes years with esoteric treatment; things do not suddenly get easier when you take the less traveled path. For convention treatment, months is a very short amount of time; conventional treatment involves the same trial and error with medication and modalities. Don't look to esoteric for easier or faster.

i'll be honest, there are some esoteric treatments that take a lot faster than conventional medicine. I've had luck with incurable diseases this way. However its not a matter of consequences and such, as angels arent that kind of beings. Rather its a question of personal path and worth.

So there is a help for depression but that option is down to only certain angels and dragon leaders to administer this change as they have the ability to transform a person spiritually, otherwise the traditional esoteric method involves working with michael are actually a good option that dont take long.

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A newer patent, US6506148B2, manipulates the nervous system.
Patent US20030171688A1 uses a feedback system to adjust your brainwaves.
There are a ton more, many of them are likely only tested behind closed doors on 'volunteers'...

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  : Apparatus and method for remotely monitoring and altering brain waves. A system designed to sense and alter brain waves from a distance without the need for physical electrodes.
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  : Remote magnetic manipulation of nervous systems. Focuses on using magnetic fields to remotely affect the sensory resonance of a person’s nervous system.
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  : Magnetic excitation of sensory resonance. A method that can remotely cause a subject to feel bodily swaying or other physical sensations
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  : Subliminal acoustic manipulation of nervous systems. Describes using subliminal acoustic signals to induce specific emotional states or physiological changes.
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  : Silent subliminal presentation system. A technique for delivering subliminal information via a silent sound carrier.
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  : Method and apparatus for translating the EEG into music. Technology designed to translate brain activity (EEG) into music to induce and control various psychological and physiological states
• US5289438A: Method and system for altering consciousness. Utilizes specific stimuli to change a person's state of consciousness.
• US5213562A: Method of inducing mental, emotional and physical states of consciousness. Focuses on inducing specific brain wave patterns to achieve desired mental or emotional states.
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  : Method to maintain peace through electromagnetic energy targeted to the brain. A system designed to influence behavioral outcomes through targeted energy.

sorry but no, you can only interfere with brain waves not change the production of the wave form with waves. All of what you list dont work. the use of wave form and this is something i learnt from raphael requires precision not available to humans. The waveform must be correct at the exact point, and to do so you have to generate multiple waveforms that converge at the location you want producing the waveform you want with an extremely high degree of accuracy. Each waveform generated most not on its own or in partial combinations produce an unwanted affect either. This method is one of the healing and diagnostic methods i use but requires quite a bit of attention to do and a specific skill set to cause things in an algorithmic manner in the form of magick.

So it is better to use other methods. Supernaturally there are 2 ways use. First is the use of a calming energy, one that helps the situation/environment, and 2nd is addressing the cause of the depression and solving it. This is the better method to use and something you can do working with angels. alternatively the other method i mentioned certain types of beings are much more immune to depression and trauma because they have a mechanism of healing naturally.

 

[Eris'AppleWorm.]

I relate a lot to what you and others in this thread have said. I used to struggle with depression, and in the immortal words of Mitch Hedgeburg, "I still do, but I used too to."
Personally my depression is often fueled by guilt and shame coming from an emotionally turbulent childhood with a lot of time spent by myself. A big revelation for me was how much of my depression was fueled by feeling ashamed of being depressed. Any advice I took or methods of feeling better I tried were self sabotaged by the fact i felt shitty about feeling depressed. Like the fact that I felt this way made me a failure in some regard and wasnt just a part of being human. Learning to accept and embrace my feelings are what started to help me feel better internally which helps me make better decisions externally.

 

[Durward]

This is the better method to use and something you can do working with angels. alternatively the other method i mentioned certain types of beings are much more immune to depression and trauma because they have a mechanism of healing naturally.

Like many other formats, the external, like angel assistance, is external and is like most other crutches that don't change the format or problem, but only supply something to lean on, again. People can trade addiction for religion, like they do in AA. And you can trade a crutch for a crutch, but that isn't independent or empowering.
Just like with all supernatural, occult, esoteric practices, you have to be in charge and in control of yourself and your practices. Self motivation, self-healing, and doing the practices to correct the brainwaves, e-motions, and addressing your issues. Dumping on helpers is again avoiding the permanent solution and reaching out to what is likely imaginary helpers that feed even more disappointment when it doesn't work. Like some angel has the time or interest in helping the 48 million people (just the USA numbers) that are depressed... angels are for the special and the selected few, not for every person that comes along.
Again, my opinion, of course. So get the undies out of that wad and move on.

 

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Like many other formats, the external, like angel assistance, is external and is like most other crutches that don't change the format or problem, but only supply something to lean on, again. People can trade addiction for religion, like they do in AA. And you can trade a crutch for a crutch, but that isn't independent or empowering.
Just like with all supernatural, occult, esoteric practices, you have to be in charge and in control of yourself and your practices. Self motivation, self-healing, and doing the practices to correct the brainwaves, e-motions, and addressing your issues. Dumping on helpers is again avoiding the permanent solution and reaching out to what is likely imaginary helpers that feed even more disappointment when it doesn't work. Like some angel has the time or interest in helping the 48 million people (just the USA numbers) that are depressed... angels are for the special and the selected few, not for every person that comes along.
Again, my opinion, of course. So get the undies out of that wad and move on.

Angel assistance may be external but its the same as having a friend help you out. The real work is internal. This isnt a bad thing when it comes to angels as angels avoid forcing things unless absolutely necessary. You arent using a crutch. You have not been in depression before to even understand it based on how you speak. There is no such thing as a crutch because any help you can get, any help is worth it except for one that plans to ruin you later.

I was dumping on your solution because it is bs, essentially pseudoscience very much like blood ozone therapy, which doesnt work. I pretty much understand the underlaying problem and the mechanics of said treatment to know that it wont work. What you suggests dont work because the brain is chemistry and the only way to trigger chemistry without using chemicals is with creating the conditions for it to happen, hence you need an ultra precise and powerful wave generator that humans do not have. This is why i know it is bs. The clinical way to treat depression is to use chemicals to prevent a negative mood or motivation as you attempt to do something because to someone depressed, any action is like climbing a mountain. You immediately feel tired straight away just thinking about it. bs scientific treatment wont solve it. Even though i know the methodology supernaturally, i know that humans do not have the capability to produce this method with physical tools.

Angels have the time and capability to deal with any number of people, because you lack the most basic understanding of them. They exist outside of time, in multiple places all at the same time. Hence they have no limitations on how many people they can help only how much power they can apply per session. Some angels literally are very powerful that they can be mistaken for gods as they have the abiltiy to create. Angels essentially are beings that have advanced long ago, they are way ahead of us in every way in their evolution and i understand quite a bit about them from their pov and their own science including what they see. However angels require that you ask them and maintain a basic set of requirements as a person to ask for their help.

 

[Durward]

Angel assistance may be external but its the same as having a friend help you out. The real work is internal. This isnt a bad thing when it comes to angels as angels avoid forcing things unless absolutely necessary. You arent using a crutch. You have not been in depression before to even understand it based on how you speak. There is no such thing as a crutch because any help you can get, any help is worth it except for one that plans to ruin you later.

I was dumping on your solution because it is bs, essentially pseudoscience very much like blood ozone therapy, which doesnt work. I pretty much understand the underlaying problem and the mechanics of said treatment to know that it wont work. What you suggests dont work because the brain is chemistry and the only way to trigger chemistry without using chemicals is with creating the conditions for it to happen, hence you need an ultra precise and powerful wave generator that humans do not have. This is why i know it is bs. The clinical way to treat depression is to use chemicals to prevent a negative mood or motivation as you attempt to do something because to someone depressed, any action is like climbing a mountain. You immediately feel tired straight away just thinking about it. bs scientific treatment wont solve it. Even though i know the methodology supernaturally, i know that humans do not have the capability to produce this method with physical tools.

Angels have the time and capability to deal with any number of people, because you lack the most basic understanding of them. They exist outside of time, in multiple places all at the same time. Hence they have no limitations on how many people they can help only how much power they can apply per session. Some angels literally are very powerful that they can be mistaken for gods as they have the abiltiy to create. Angels essentially are beings that have advanced long ago, they are way ahead of us in every way in their evolution and i understand quite a bit about them from their pov and their own science including what they see. However angels require that you ask them and maintain a basic set of requirements as a person to ask for their help.

You obviously haven't even bothered to read the actual research and results where these things, from finger mudras to magnetic brain manipulation, to binaural beats, to 40 Hz light treatments, to psilocybin, all show positive results. You have your undies in a wad because you think you have to be right, and can't accept that there are many methods to health, and not just praying to angels. Most of the people who try to pray things away or depend on religion end up in jail for abuse because they should have taken that child to the emergency room instead of believing in prayer or angels. That has a very small percentage of any actual results that matter to anyone except those who think they know everything and are blinded by fake belief.
You obviously haven't bothered to even look at the facts of brainwaves and what is actually happening, or looked at why people have a serotonin pathway problem that shunts it into becoming toad venom like bufotenine.
So, don't try to lecture me or claim I have never been depressed like you are some expert, because you obviously aren't.
I have been there plenty of times, and it can be fixed by these methods if you stop avoiding the facts and get to work on yourself.
If you make false claims like this again, trying to crap on me and my opinion, you will be ignored permanently because you are then obviously part of the cancel culture that thinks they know everything.

 

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You obviously haven't even bothered to read the actual research and results where these things, from finger mudras to magnetic brain manipulation, to binaural beats, to 40 Hz light treatments, to psilocybin, all show positive results. You have your undies in a wad because you think you have to be right, and can't accept that there are many methods to health, and not just praying to angels. Most of the people who try to pray things away or depend on religion end up in jail for abuse because they should have taken that child to the emergency room instead of believing in prayer or angels. That has a very small percentage of any actual results that matter to anyone except those who think they know everything and are blinded by fake belief.
You obviously haven't bothered to even look at the facts of brainwaves and what is actually happening, or looked at why people have a serotonin pathway problem that shunts it into becoming toad venom like bufotenine.
So, don't try to lecture me or claim I have never been depressed like you are some expert, because you obviously aren't.
I have been there plenty of times, and it can be fixed by these methods if you stop avoiding the facts and get to work on yourself.
If you make false claims like this again, trying to crap on me and my opinion, you will be ignored permanently because you are then obviously part of the cancel culture that thinks they know everything.

i dont need to, i have angelic sight that sees science. This is gonna get long.
First the brain is an electrochemical system, it emits waves as consequence but cant be affected by it unless you can be extremely specific on the waveform. Like with any subatomic particle or molecule if you wish to influence it wirelessly you need to reach it correctly, since the brain is a very complex multicellular group of differing groups of molecules, you have to be extremely precise in the waveform, the intensity. This is not based on frequency.

Lets talk about the first point, affecting brain waves. To achieve the desired result you need to understand the needed waveforms and exact position. The human body is constantly moving even when it is still. However humans dont fully understand DNA so how do you expect knowledge on which wave represents what from the brain wave? You have to hit exact points of each cell with the correct waveform. Humans have no such device capable of this as i've seen the divine use of this method and it is extremely complex. The real measurement was environmental, not due to the device used (patient was in a calming room and the effects measured did not affect the patient only the brainwave measured). Basically it cannot be used in any part to cure cancer because it doesnt influence the underlaying information stored in the cell, and the brain has redundancies. It can affect at best the transmission of information which affects the brainwave but not the information stored in the cells itself, as this is chemical. Information stored in the brain is done via chemical, not emf.

the 2nd and 3rd point, magnetism. Same problem, the patient was in a calming room and the environment changes are the largest measured result which is only perceived not real. The nervous system works on electrochemical activity, it uses a voltage to send signals which the cells create the electrical charge which causes ions to move. at best iron which is attracted by magnets is in the blood, and not in a form that would be attracted by magnets, so no magnetism doesnt help. This is why getting electrocuted causes muscle spasms or disrupts it while causing extreme pain, as it messes the voltage across the nervous system. The body works on chemistry not magnets so you cant affect sensory cells by magnets as they are affected by mechanical factors with molecules. We smell when molecules hit the sensors in our nose, we feel when pressure is noticed by our skin as pressure releases signals, just like each sensory cell is only activated on certain conditions, be it temperature differences for example. So magnets cant affect this. The research may just be bogus or entirely suggested, rather than real.

4th and 5th point, sound triggers signals into the brain, it is at best a motivation factor, or a remembrance. This can only encourage but not solve depression, really shows you dont understand depression but will fails at help where it is most important, which is where someone depressed feels crushed or unable to do something, which is why anti depressents are used to stop this as this is a chemical process. So sound like music is helpful for motivation but is not a sure way to help stop this.

7-8, thats basically the equivalent of ditching your emotions, burying your problems rather than solving them. Not recommended as they will catch up to you at some point.

9 - see point 1.

The Only relevant thing you suggested was music, but thats not a for sure way to solve it. It helps, but music does not have to be tailored or based on brainwaves, rather any music that motivates and improves the mood of the patient can help, but the patient must first want to take the initiative in doing something, in solving it. Chemically anti depressents help a lot more for this case. No solution helps if the patient himself gives up and refuses to do anything.

It also shows on your gross misunderstanding on angels, implying that angels are related to religion when they arent. Prayer is the start of the way of getting in touch with an angel, not how it works. You dont sit there praying and hoping in desperation that angels will invisibly fix things, thats not how it works, although angels can move events and move you into collision with something that could help fix your depression, which happens by solving the underlaying reason of why you're depressed in the first place. When in active contact with an angel, the angel will be like a personal trainer in this, helping move you to take action and solve things, to give you positivity and hope, to comfort your grim opinions on things. Angels are highly evolved beings, recently there was a massive battle, a usual part of an angel's protection, but the number of angel's participating were few and the species applying massive numbers disrupting angels were defeated by few with their world ended. Angels have no limits in how they can present themselves. The billions of humans in number even if we were to expand to trillions does not phase or affect what they do and how they do it. The ability to be outside time allows them to pick when they want to handle things so they have all the time in their world to do things and are immortal as well. The only threats they have to handle that are at their level are only single digits in number at best where we are.

Curing depression requires tackling the cause of it, which is usually some event or something external. I have helped others with depression using the self healing option but this is only offered to few because humans in general arent liked as transformation isnt generally offered. It doesnt cure but it allows the patient to heal and tackle the problem. What you've suggested is very much like all these papers trying to suggest that ivermectin can cure cancer because they drowned cancer cells in ivermectin on a petry dish. I know how these cons work, many of them are either for jokes while some are scams for investments or money. Just because a paper is published, or something is patented with so called "results" does not make it legit. The key thing here is replication, can someone else independent and irrelevant replicate the work? Have you even replicated the work yourself? the reason why i can call bs on you is because i have the angelic ability to see science. Meanwhile you are so adamant you discovered something ignored all because they seem patented, they seem to fit the format of a normal scientific research, but what you didnt realise was the conditions in which they were performed and how the results were gained. This is very irresponsible of you to suggest such scams to people suffering depression. Remember angels do not care if you believe in misinformation, this is an example of harmful misinformation. If it causes harm even if you believed it was good, you are indeed responsible for that evil. I hope you understand why other beings have a really bad view of humans.

 

[StoatCatcher]

i have angelic sight that sees science

Can you elaborate on what you mean by this? I respect the intention of not wanting to fall for pseudoscience when it comes to health but this claim sounds pseudoscientific in and of itself since we don't have the context.

 

[Durward]

Blah blah blah, mental health, blah blah blah, I know more than everyone, blah blah blah, me me me, blah blah blah