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Hypothetical spirit farming situation

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Lets pretend someone has loads of trauma and is therefore under constant psychic attack. Whilst they're processing their shadow they can keep up with banishing rituals etc.. but, ultimately, they are at that state which is a beacon to those types of spirits that will feed on these raw energies as they're drawn by the resonance.

Now, what I'm wondering is that instead of seeing it as a negative/detriment could this person use the situation to "farm" spirits ie create his own non physical team, charge up sigils with them or egregore etc? It may just be my eternal optimist speaking but considering that most of these discarnate life forms are either stuck to earth due to unfulfilled desires or caught in the mix as they drifted and can't navigate themselves it seems to represent a particularly interesting arena, yes?
 

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Are you saying spirits who are attracted to this person's distress could be used by him if he finds a way to send them to a weaker / more distressed person to feed on that person's fear / anger / depression etc?
I don't think that if the first person would feel better when those spirits are no longer harassing him, they would still feel a need or desire to return to him afterwards. So he would have to be able to bind them, else they will surely find a way to cause more trouble in his life (in my opinion)
 

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Lets pretend someone has loads of trauma and is therefore under constant psychic attack. Whilst they're processing their shadow they can keep up with banishing rituals etc.. but, ultimately, they are at that state which is a beacon to those types of spirits that will feed on these raw energies as they're drawn by the resonance.

Now, what I'm wondering is that instead of seeing it as a negative/detriment could this person use the situation to "farm" spirits ie create his own non physical team, charge up sigils with them or egregore etc? It may just be my eternal optimist speaking but considering that most of these discarnate life forms are either stuck to earth due to unfulfilled desires or caught in the mix as they drifted and can't navigate themselves it seems to represent a particularly interesting arena, yes?
No, I don't think so. The last thing you want when having such spirits around would be to keep that around. Though using another person who attracts them as a source of them, that sounds more realistic to me.
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Forgot to add... the basic condition of being under load of trauma, that's on itself something you don't want to remain in but to get out of. It's better to heal, than to remain in that state and become food source for larvae. Healing itself in this case is quite a challenge, but it is way more liberating and advantageous than being under trauma and having spirits around.
 
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Yeah, why would you ever want to do this?

Look, i think we've all wanted to go out into the woods and tame a pack of wolves to do our bidding but it's hard enough trying to tame even one, why on earth would you ever think that trying to tame a whole pack - while being mentally fragile, mind you (no shade, just the nature of trauma) - is at all a reasonable idea to pursue????

i am in no way any expert in spirits and more, but i have a lot of respect for them, even ones i might perceive as negative, or "evil". I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU DON'T!!!!

that being said.... if you simply must.... please share your results with us, it'd be like the journal equivalent of supernatural Live Leak.
 

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Like attracts like. They would have a hoarde of restless, depressed and angry spirits sucking the life out of everything around them. Will not bring any good, might work for a few curses, but the farmer will quickly succumb to something regardless.
 

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Lets pretend someone has loads of trauma and is therefore under constant psychic attack. Whilst they're processing their shadow they can keep up with banishing rituals etc.. but, ultimately, they are at that state which is a beacon to those types of spirits that will feed on these raw energies as they're drawn by the resonance.

Now, what I'm wondering is that instead of seeing it as a negative/detriment could this person use the situation to "farm" spirits ie create his own non physical team, charge up sigils with them or egregore etc? It may just be my eternal optimist speaking but considering that most of these discarnate life forms are either stuck to earth due to unfulfilled desires or caught in the mix as they drifted and can't navigate themselves it seems to represent a particularly interesting arena, yes?

I have to make some assumptions here ; you are talking about taking spirits and nurturing / raising them .... getting them 'onside ' to your advantage and development ?

If so a definite yes . On just that . A person with loads of trauma ? I 'd leave that part out . If you are that person or know them , proper therapy is essential , dont muck around with magick as a 'cure' . The other question is , you seem to be talking about spirits 'out there ' and not as part of your psyche ? That is even more complex and even 'mutable ' ( meaning the difference is only due to our perspective ).

A magician should be able to do that .... its part of the essential magical contract .... Eliphas Levis again ;



THE MAGICIAN


O Lord, deliver me from hell's great fear and gloom!
Loose thou my spirit from the larvæ of the tomb!
I seek them in their dread abodes without affright:
On them will I impose my will, the law of light.

I bid the night conceive the glittering hemisphere.
Arise, O sun, arise! O moon, shine white and clear!
I seek them in their dread abodes without affright:
On them will I impose my will, the law of light.

Their faces and their shapes are terrible and strange.
These devils by my might to angels I will change.
These nameless horrors I address without affright:
On them will I impose my will, the law of light.

These are the phantoms pale of mine astonied view,
Yet none but I their blasted beauty can renew;
For to the abyss of hell I plunge without affright:
On them will I impose my will, the law of light.
 

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Lets pretend someone has loads of trauma and is therefore under constant psychic attack. Whilst they're processing their shadow they can keep up with banishing rituals etc.. but, ultimately, they are at that state which is a beacon to those types of spirits that will feed on these raw energies as they're drawn by the resonance.

Now, what I'm wondering is that instead of seeing it as a negative/detriment could this person use the situation to "farm" spirits ie create his own non physical team, charge up sigils with them or egregore etc? It may just be my eternal optimist speaking but considering that most of these discarnate life forms are either stuck to earth due to unfulfilled desires or caught in the mix as they drifted and can't navigate themselves it seems to represent a particularly interesting arena, yes?
Sounds like a Familiar, to me.

Yes, I know I sound like a broken record sometimes. I can't help that.
The saying 'when all you have in your toolbox is a hammer, everything looks like a nail' comes to mind.

Really, I expected to see a lot more threads here about Familiars than I do. Aren't they traditional?
 

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Really, I expected to see a lot more threads here about Familiars than I do. Aren't they traditional?
That is indeed a question. Yet there is difference between traditional superstitions and traditional magic. There is no way to tell how familiars, servitors etc. were used in history or how much they are used nowadays, apparently less that you would expect. I have no familiar, no idea where to get one or even why to bother with one, actually. Maybe people are today more solo, less willing to connect and that shows in occult life too.
 

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My Familiar showed up to defend me, in sort of the same manner as described in the OP.

I did not summon her, expect her, or look for her. She 'saved' me pure & simple.

Someday, I'll post about all that in my Journal. When I have the strength and frankly, courage to do so.
 
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