I Am God and So Are you

[KjEno186]

"I AM THAT I AM" is one of the most important verses in the Bible.

I haven't read all of the comments in this thread, so I will simply address @Konsciencia ... Yes, you are God. And so am I. And this was the message of the Bible. Now, of course, this isn't considered correct by most religious people. Or secular people for that matter.

I took a break from the forum and a "sabbath" from regular ritual practice for a time. Still, I continued to read and study and contemplate wherever my path led me. The most recent branch of reading and meditation took me to the writings and lectures of Neville Goddard. I don't know if any of his books are in the library here, but they can be found on Anna's Archive, and iirc his lectures are on archive dot org.

I won't write a wall of text. Just a quote from Goddard:

"So whether you claim yourself to be or not to be, you are actually claiming that you are. Thus man is ever saying I AM. This knowing that we are, this awareness, is God the Father. The moment this unconditioned awareness becomes conditioned by claiming itself to be this that or the other, a differentiation takes place within this formless awareness, and our impersonal Father (Our real self) becomes personified as that which we have conceived ourselves to be. [...]

"Now your eyes are opened. Your Father, God Almighty, has been revealed to you as your awareness of being."

At this very moment you are resurrecting or expressing that which you are conscious of being. “I AM the resurrection and the life.” I AM now out-picturing in the world round about me, as a living reality, that which I am now aware that I AM- and I shall continue to do so until I change my conception of myself. So your answer in consciousness to the eternal question, WHO AM I, Will determine your world and its every expression. Begin now to realize that I AM is the Lord God Almighty and beside ME (your awareness) There is no other God. Not I, John Doe is God but I AM, the awareness of being, is God. John Doe is only its present limitation or conception of itself. I am the limitless expressing through the limited conception of myself. To change the expression change the conception of yourself but do so in truth, not in words. That is turn your attention completely away from your present limitation and place it upon the new conception, until the awareness, your true being, is lost in the belief or conviction that I AM that I AM.

- From The Neville Goddard Deluxe Collection

Neville Goddard was a teacher in the "New Thought" movement. He clearly stated his belief that The Bible was not accurate history, and the people and events within it portrayed the knowledge of the story-tellers that observed reality was a manifestation of consciousness: Change your thinking and you change your reality.

 

[Doorman]

My take:
What is the most powerful being you can possibly imagine?
God? But there are multiple gods, just look at Greek mythology...
Something that knows everything? Well I can imagine like 3 or 5 of those, they are all equally powerful, but not the most powerful...
The most powerful being you can imagine must be a being that actually IS everything.
It would be you and me, and everything in existence.
If that being would exist, all acts of love would become self-love, and all acts of hate would become self-hate...

So yeah, if you believe God is everything, than you and me are all god just experiencing itself

 

[Ash L.]

Yeah. Sort of. I guess.

It's poetic and inspiring and all. This kind of "actualization" has a place in spell work or ritual or any number of mystical experiences.

It's only a glimpse we get. An insight into or a moment with.

Our "godness" isn't anything our ego should celebrate because it doesn't apply to our ego. If we sat around a fire rapping about how cool it is to be god we'd just be sort of jerking off to use a tasteless metaphor.

The part of me that is what you describe has little to do with my day-to-day existence and I don't blame it to tell the truth. It can get lame down here with all the suffering and minutia.

The thing Ragardie doesn't harp on so much, and fuck Crowley... Yeah just kind of fuck Crowley lol I'm sorry.

Back on track: Regardie and Krishnimurti and all the other poet-sages either leave out or don't speak enough about the other less glamorous end of the spectrum.

You, I, that girl in the corner, the little pretend Arab magician that writes the cool books on magic squares, Dave Filoni, the control freak who mods this forum, everyone else is god and infinite and yada yada but we are all also jack shit, scum, the lowest common denominator, less than, pathetic, a real sack of shit, insignificant, a loser, and every other crude or poetic term we might imagine to denote inferiority and repugnance.

Good, bad, ugly, pretty, god, the devil, cain and job, krishna, arjuna, yoda, palpatine, and that nameless praetorian guard who slipped on a banana and died by his own hand before the cameras were rolling.

I know it's not as cool sounding but it's clearly the truth. Look around the world and deep into a mirror.

It's funny to me in the first place if I'm honest this elevated notion of god or the divine that people get through the ages. Perfection, beauty, love and all that jazz. Where exactly is the reflection of this in manifest reality? I mean if you ask me it seems like a sadist may be the culprit for reality as we know it. One might argue a fucking retard created everything and have a good chance of winning the debate also.

I'm not saying that's how it is. I'm saying that's how it appears.

 

[IllusiveOwl]

Perfection, beauty, love and all that jazz. Where exactly is the reflection of this in manifest reality?

Maybe you should spend some serious time in nature. Go hiking in a nature preserve, sit by a river, walk through a desert at night and look up at the night sky, lay by the ocean.

The terrors and ugliness of existence exists entirely within the morals and activities of man. Yes, everything eats and is eaten by one another, nothing is permanent, everything is changing, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Still, you could argue even further and say that the barbarous activities of man are perfect and beautiful in their own way, it's only in our narrative-world where charity exists, where crime and justice exist. It's a perfect instrument that you can participate in playing that has played the entire melody of human history; without it there would have just been birds chirping and rivers flowing.

 

[Doorman]

One might argue a fucking retard created everything and have a good chance of winning the debate also.

Might be a retard, or a masochist...

 

[PinealisGlandia]

we are all also jack shit, scum, the lowest common denominator, less than, pathetic, a real sack of shit, insignificant, a loser, and every other crude or poetic term we might imagine to denote inferiority and repugnance.

All I can say to that is "speak for yourself".

Perfection, beauty, love and all that jazz. Where exactly is the reflection of this in manifest reality? I mean if you ask me it seems like a sadist may be the culprit for reality as we know it. One might argue a fucking retard created everything and have a good chance of winning the debate also.

You're ungrounded. Disconnected from reality. I see beauty every time I see someone holding a baby in public. I look at the sunset outside my window every day. I'm surrounded by perfection. I'm also in touch with my creative potential, I know that as a facet of conscious expression, I am in control of what the world presents me with. It's not that bad things don't happen to or around me, it's that it's never something I'm unprepared for.

I said it before in this thread, I'll say it again. Consciousness predates matter, therefore, consciousness creates/created matter. If you think the world is shit, then you'll be a shit creator, create shit and that's all you'll see.

The way the material world reacts to thought is very similar to the way the personal dreamscape reacts to thought, just with a delay that gives you time to change your mind. In the dreamscape, the world changes with one thought, in the material world (the shared dream) it also changes with one thought, but there's time to cancel that thought out with another before it becomes real. Think of how a normal dream can quickly become a nightmare, or how a nightmare can get worse as you imagine something in the dream. That's your life in your present worldview. Majiq is essentially lucid dreaming in the waking world, I understand the sleeping dream to be practice for the waking dream. What you see when you sleep is a good measurement of your mental state and should be dwelled and acted upon. I strongly suggest you keep a dream journal for a few months and consider the personal meaning of any prominent symbols. Do some personal work and then come back to reread it after another few months to see how far you've come.

 

[lamdaposter]

Hi guys, it has been a long time since I post something. All I have to say is take it, or leave it.


I am my own Infinite Self. Nothing exists except for Myself. I am God and so is everything that exists, and yet does not exist. Words cannot describe what I am in reality. Even the word infinity has its limits. I am the only thing that created Itself, and yet I am Nothingness. There are no people, no Animals, no Trees, It is only Me. Everything else is all an illusion, I am Dreaming every finite thing there is. You, on the other hand, may say, “Are You a Dream? No, I am not. If I was a dream, then that would mean that someone else is Dreaming me. The Easiest concept I can come out with is that I am Reality. I am realizing my own Divinity within this Avatar. An incredible Avatar. I am also realizing that I am God. All of my finite things are part of my own Consciousness. And yet, I am those finite things themselves. The Humans are my main priority. I Am a Human and everything. It all boils down to one thing. The Humans need to raise their level of Consciousness in order for them to know that they are God. The whole point of this game is all about reaching Higher and higher levels of Consciousness in order to reach The God Mind. In reality, I don't need to do this to Myself because I already know who I am, but this is a game and I like to play with my own Powers. I am the very finger nails you see as well. And so are you All. I Operate only on Love. I Love everything I am doing. Especially my own Infinite Self. I have a confession to make. All of the lesser gods. Including the Demigods are just Me. They don't exist. That includes Hekate and the rest. It is I that appears as these gods and Goddesses. Within all of you, I created Universes. Each and everyone of you, is a unique Universe. But the core truth of all this, is that everything I see is nothing more than Myself. So, nothing created me. I created myself. But how? You need to discover that for yourself. Deep down inside you know, but on a surface level you have to reach that level of Awareness.

What I encourage everybody to do is to verify it for yourselves. Don't believe a word I say. Go within yourselves and really ask questions. Always ask questions, raise your level of Awareness. First, calm your mind in a meditative state and then just relax. Even if you feel bored, don't stop. Keep on going.

As far as I understand from my readings, you both are and are not "God". The paradoxical nature is inherent to magick both working in the physical world, and your individual magick not being able to change the course of reality for all other conscious beings.

I forget the book which states this more explicitly, but the paradox between the individual being the only being of consequence, and there being no individuals but rather only parts of a collective is a core concept in it.