Seeking Recommendation I am looking for a source/book on working with Santisima Murete/LHP

[infogenius]

Hi All. I am looking for a source-course-book, etc. on how to work with La Santisima Muerte on the left Hand Path and without any christian elements or aspects, using items that are fairly easy to get in the USA, especially online. I have an excellent set of books that teach how to work with her old school that does not include anything christian, which I love, but the items are not exactly easy to obtain. The name of the book is "Miquiztli Cult and Devotion to Santa Muerte" (LINK REMOVED)

If I could work with her old school with easy to find items that would be great.

thanks in advance.

 

[Morell]

There is entire folder on Santa Muerte in the library. I understand almost nothing, but it seems to me, that most Santa Muerte staff people use, is homemade. I remember seeing second hand statue of Santa Muerte made of paper. So even papercraft would do and costs almost nothing.

Any kind of official stuff is not necessary for any kind of spirituality.

 

[Yazata]

There's also posts by old members. Just use the search function. But since she is a Saint I doubt you'd be able to find anything that has no Christian influences...

 

[HoldAll]

The Library post for that collection is a bit confusing, so I'll give you the link here:

Collection - Santa Muerte books

Dear friends this is group of books of Santa Muerte https://mega.nz/folder/1i43gbzL#MYrzIawOH9cBBOFBNRKK4A

wizardforums.com

If you seek recommendations, better go to Book Discussion and Reviews, that's the correction section. Any requests for books go into Book Requests but please mind Rule No. 5: "The request must reasonably be able to be fulfilled (don't ask for super rare books that are not digitized and obviously no one has access to them)". I won't open that FB link but if the book is not on amazon, it will be considered rare.

 

[infogenius]

There is entire folder on Santa Muerte in the library. I understand almost nothing, but it seems to me, that most Santa Muerte staff people use, is homemade. I remember seeing second hand statue of Santa Muerte made of paper. So even papercraft would do and costs almost nothing.

Any kind of official stuff is not necessary for any kind of spirituality.

Thank you very much.

There's also posts by old members. Just use the search function. But since she is a Saint I doubt you'd be able to find anything that has no Christian influences...

Thank you very much.

The Library post for that collection is a bit confusing, so I'll give you the link here:

Collection - Santa Muerte books

Dear friends this is group of books of Santa Muerte https://mega.nz/folder/1i43gbzL#MYrzIawOH9cBBOFBNRKK4A

wizardforums.com

If you seek recommendations, better go to Book Discussion and Reviews, that's the correction section. Any requests for books go into Book Requests but please mind Rule No. 5: "The request must reasonably be able to be fulfilled (don't ask for super rare books that are not digitized and obviously no one has access to them)". I won't open that FB link but if the book is not on amazon, it will be considered rare.

Thank you very much.

Thank you very much.

It says, "

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So, I can't get into the collection for Santa Muerte book list at the moment. I just joined last night.

thanks

The Library post for that collection is a bit confusing, so I'll give you the link here:

Collection - Santa Muerte books

Dear friends this is group of books of Santa Muerte https://mega.nz/folder/1i43gbzL#MYrzIawOH9cBBOFBNRKK4A

wizardforums.com

If you seek recommendations, better go to Book Discussion and Reviews, that's the correction section. Any requests for books go into Book Requests but please mind Rule No. 5: "The request must reasonably be able to be fulfilled (don't ask for super rare books that are not digitized and obviously no one has access to them)". I won't open that FB link but if the book is not on amazon, it will be considered rare.

Thanks

There's also posts by old members. Just use the search function. But since she is a Saint I doubt you'd be able to find anything that has no Christian influences...

Thanks

 

[satanicprinesss666]

Thank you!

 

[niranjan]

this looks interesting

 

[ElectricEgregore]

Hi All. I am looking for a source-course-book, etc. on how to work with La Santisima Muerte on the left Hand Path and without any christian elements or aspects, using items that are fairly easy to get in the USA, especially online. I have an excellent set of books that teach how to work with her old school that does not include anything christian, which I love, but the items are not exactly easy to obtain. The name of the book is "Miquiztli Cult and Devotion to Santa Muerte" (LINK REMOVED)

If I could work with her old school with easy to find items that would be great.

thanks in advance.

Christianity is full of pagan things and adopted practices - it's also for example seen as idol worship and paganism by, as far as I know, almost any hebrew scholar. Then of course we have vibrant theories of all kinds, serpent jesus, gnosticism, and the facts that surround the ways of ritualistic practice (I mean substitute cannibalism is pretty dark even for most occultists) and then there is for example the never ending church and vatican symbolism. The list goes on and on.

So maybe the whole black and white thinking in general is more christian than the pope himself
I think the optics of course and some other syncretism type things are very common in for example Mexico,
but if we think about it the authors of this mash-up called christianity - they also got it from somewhere.

Santa Muerte is her own deity by now, or as some would say the egregore forked from the source code of christianity,
but responds to the multiplicity of ways of contact.

At least that's my take on this.

I also find this book "Miquiztli Cult and Devotion to Santa Muerte" interesting, I think the mesoamerican gods might have a certain influence/part in the modern ways the ancient violent pre-christian-traditions are continued, mainly by criminals. At least I got the feeling that the author was onto something with incorporating these mesoamerican deities.
Was it explained in the book, or do any of you know if it's known that these gods had part in Santa Muertes origins, or if they are commonly called by these sicario types?

 

[infogenius]

Christianity is full of pagan things and adopted practices - it's also for example seen as idol worship and paganism by, as far as I know, almost any hebrew scholar. Then of course we have vibrant theories of all kinds, serpent jesus, gnosticism, and the facts that surround the ways of ritualistic practice (I mean substitute cannibalism is pretty dark even for most occultists) and then there is for example the never ending church and vatican symbolism. The list goes on and on.

So maybe the whole black and white thinking in general is more christian than the pope himself
I think the optics of course and some other syncretism type things are very common in for example Mexico,
but if we think about it the authors of this mash-up called christianity - they also got it from somewhere.

Santa Muerte is her own deity by now, or as some would say the egregore forked from the source code of christianity,
but responds to the multiplicity of ways of contact.

At least that's my take on this.

I also find this book "Miquiztli Cult and Devotion to Santa Muerte" interesting, I think the mesoamerican gods might have a certain influence/part in the modern ways the ancient violent pre-christian-traditions are continued, mainly by criminals. At least I got the feeling that the author was onto something with incorporating these mesoamerican deities.
Was it explained in the book, or do any of you know if it's known that these gods had part in Santa Muertes origins, or if they are commonly called by these sicario types?

HI. I have this book but a lot of the materials needed are hard for me to get. Otherwise it is a very good book.

 

[dannYves]

La Santa Muerte is technically a synchronized egregore originating from Hispanic Vudú + Santería sects and Indigenous First Nation religions in combination with Roman Catholicism. In the early 20th century she was synonymous to La Catrina or La Calavera Catrina ("The Dapper [female] Skull") which began her transition into what we see today – and she helped to make popular the Mexican sugar skull (calavera de azúcar) well into the late 20th century. Nowadays she is heavily linked to the female variant of the Grim Reaper due to the popularity of North American LHP groups and secularism and their adoption into Latin America, but she is originally Mictecacihuatl, the goddess of death from within the Aztec faiths.

So depending on how you want to approach her is dependent on what aspect you want to embody or focus on.

 

[Morell]

La Santa Muerte is technically a synchronized egregore originating from Hispanic Vudú + Santería sects and Indigenous First Nation religions in combination with Roman Catholicism. In the early 20th century she was synonymous to La Catrina or La Calavera Catrina ("The Dapper [female] Skull") which began her transition into what we see today – and she helped to make popular the Mexican sugar skull (calavera de azúcar) well into the late 20th century. Nowadays she is heavily linked to the female variant of the Grim Reaper due to the popularity of North American LHP groups and secularism and their adoption into Latin America, but she is originally Mictecacihuatl, the goddess of death from within the Aztec faiths.

So depending on how you want to approach her is dependent on what aspect you want to embody or focus on.

This is worth noting. Thanks!

 

[infogenius]

This is worth noting. Thanks!

dannYves, thank you.

 

[MorganBlack]

I am looking for a source-course-book, etc. on how to work with La Santisima Muerte on the left Hand Path and without any christian elements or aspects,

Start with the Catholic prayers to first become familiar with what has a greater probability of being a valid manifestation. Then see what "she" says. She'll probably adapt to you and your own culture.

But if you just start with any goddamnned thing at all , there is no telling what you'll get.

But please please please don't then come on line and explain to us Latinos what she "really" is , or how Catholicism is outdated.

If you do, I swear I am TOTALLY going to evoke Thor into a triangle using the theme from PowerPuff Girls, and a glass of rose' - and when he appears in drag with a giant floppy hammer made entirely of pink foam and sparkly cardboard, scrawled in neon crayon with a drawing of Blossom - then I am TOTALLY coming back online to explain how Mjolnir emits a pathetic, high-pitched 'Squeak!' instead of thunder and ya'll are all are just being silly and traditional.

(Kidding here, but I hope you get my point)