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"I Am the Way, Truth and Life"

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This is a saying that long got me to ponder. Then I finally understood it. It means that when you find your personal Truth, you will find the Way and Life itself.
You can find the Way before that and use it to get to the Truth and Life. Also brings to mind Tao Teh Ching, "The nameable thing is not Tao" or "The Way that can be named is not the Way".
 

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Some think that "I am" is a noun - referencing the spiritual core that Is - before existence
 

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Some think that "I am" is a noun - referencing the spiritual core that Is - before existence
Well it's more like 'spirit intelligence'. The realm of Spirit is usually AHIH or "I Am".
 

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That gives a second interpretation to the statement

I leave aside whether "truth" is a reification
 
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This is a saying that long got me to ponder. Then I finally understood it. It means that when you find your personal Truth, you will find the Way and Life itself.
You can find the Way before that and use it to get to the Truth and Life. Also brings to mind Tao Teh Ching, "The nameable thing is not Tao" or "The Way that can be named is not the Way".
I like it, nice train of thought.
 

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Isn't this what Jesus said? That HE is the Way, Truth & Life & not you?
 

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This is a saying that long got me to ponder. Then I finally understood it. It means that when you find your personal Truth, you will find the Way and Life itself.
there is one saying which says, "there are as many truths as there are people".

problem is that "truth" can be only one.
ex. if one truth contradicts another truth then what is truth?
 

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problem is that "truth" can be only one.
ex. if one truth contradicts another truth then what is truth?
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In Hebrew if I translate it literally it means: “ Truth will grow from the land & Justice will be seen from the sky”.
The land in Qabbalah is considered Malhuth: the place of judgement, that why in Hebrew we say: ”True judgement”.
 

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@Viktor If we assume each person is world of its own, then in their world there could be a different truth than in our world & no the Truth in all worlds exists.
 

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In Hebrew if I translate it literally it means: “ Truth will grow from the land & Justice will be seen from the sky”.
The land in Qabbalah is considered Malhuth: the place of judgement, that why in Hebrew we say: ”True judgement”.
Seems like there is same verse in
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If we assume each person is world of its own, then in their world there could be a different truth than in our world & no the Truth in all worlds exists.
yes, if we assume a world is personal, but in reality there is only one world.

existence of personal worlds doesn't affect real world, therefore we can also say that personal truth doesn't change the truth (of real world).
the point being that we each have our own personal truth, but our personal truth is personal, not real world truth.

real world truth I think must be able to answer great questions such as, who are we, where did we come from, are we alone etc.
we might have different opinions (personal truths), however in reality there is only one truth logically possible to answer these questions.
 

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there is only one truth logically

Logic operates upon axioms (assumptions)

Trueness is a relationship and therefore requires a context - e.g. a door post is true - to a plumbline (local gravity)

Truth however is a noun, not requiring a context.

Being true (to a person/principle/context) is turned into a thing.

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Logic operates upon axioms (assumptions)

Trueness is a relationship and therefore requires a context - e.g. a door post is true - to a plumbline (local gravity)

Truth however is a noun, not requiring a context.

Being true (to a person/principle/context) is turned into a thing.

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This while not incorrect is also not exclusively so in regard to "truth",

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of truth is discussed and debated in various contexts, including philosophy, art, theology, and science.

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Some philosophers view the concept of truth as basic, and unable to be explained in any terms that are more easily understood than the concept of truth itself.

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Thus truth can be about true\false in some context but it can also be about "truth" about life or existence or truth itself such as "what is truth" question.
 

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Hopefully the English language has words that can encompass the depths of Existence and Beingness.
I don’t think any language has words like that because those experiences are so deep
 

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This is a saying that long got me to ponder. Then I finally understood it. It means that when you find your personal Truth, you will find the Way and Life itself.
You can find the Way before that and use it to get to the Truth and Life. Also brings to mind Tao Teh Ching, "The nameable thing is not Tao" or "The Way that can be named is not the Way".
This is likely in reference to the path of the Philosopher's Stone and its life-giving liquid.
 

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This is likely in reference to the path of the Philosopher's Stone and its life-giving liquid.
Or the quest for holy grail, the motive is similar, eternal life or youth, healing powers etc.
 

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The cup and chalice... well yes there was a meteorite that did regenerate but it was a black disc eventually put in a well. Then taken to India. But I am the way and the life... I've been thru the school's christ has and know the mysteries. Believe me. He's talking about a pyramid secret.
 

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He's talking about a pyramid secret.

I had some hopes that the genuine secrets were not about physical plane situations - as compared with astral, mental, buddhic, atmic, monadic and logoic plane situations.

And all of those planes are subplanes of the Cosmic Physical Plane

And the cosmic planes are subplanes of the Universal Physical Plane.

And the universal planes are subplanes of a greater plane for which I do not know a human naming.
 

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The cup and chalice... well yes there was a meteorite that did regenerate but it was a black disc eventually put in a well. Then taken to India. But I am the way and the life... I've been thru the school's christ has and know the mysteries. Believe me. He's talking about a pyramid secret.
I don’t understand what you’re talking about, but I’ve been able to feed off telúrico energy & achieve some physical plane, the regular one, manifestations.
 

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I don’t understand what you’re talking about, but I’ve been able to feed off telúrico energy & achieve some physical plane, the regular one, manifestations.
I am the way and .... Refers to the path or the steps up the pyramid... Thiss is a multifaceted allegory for one thing.
Through the measurements of the pyramid and going up the steps... you know the way... You get the numbers you get the ( ) of the stone...
I am the life.
O+ DO+
------------TE
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----------LA
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--------SO
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------FA
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---- (ME)
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-- RE
V DO+


The way up, The life... the alchemical and spiritual mirror of the functons of stone starting with the southern redness the white wolf sulfer and the element assocated with hell or the depths of fire all the way upward to (and yes the elements are in PURE alagory as it so happens) god and gold the element of pure positive ion, The paharoah.. ( he who walks with god ) the throne of osiris was the ark. God sits in heaven but his feet rest upon the ark, The ark and the holy of holies in which it was housed was of gold , The stone produces gold... And is an element that only holds a positive ion... God being the aspect of the sun related to gold, the giver of light and creaton and the positive charge.
The aspect of shiva or the black hole , female aspect of negative polarity where ether is compressed and geometry is lost leaving nothing but ---- a straght line to be recycled. through the process of the stone you understand this construct.... it is the way... god is the sustainer... the sun.. THE LIFE. the stone shows you the way... it gives THE LIFE. i am the way and the life. its an alagory you understand... 33 years old until he preformed a miracle and was known. 11 years horus. 11 years thoth, 11 years Ra... He was a pharoah dude. An annointed keeper of wisdom, and did himself use and posess the ark. by way of this knowledge. he knew the pyramid and how the pyramid shows you... the path to god. the way and the life.

there are somany allegorical correlations i could speak for hours upon the subject...
 
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