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[Help] I can't light incense

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Firetree

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What kind of charcoal are you using? I recommend the self igniting kind but even it requires a good bit of burning before it's really lit, and sometimes you need to blow on it to keep the embers going.

Is that the stuff that fizzes ? I used to find it funny because as the fire fizzes across the block ( saltpeter or something ?) in a line of little sparks , in the dark it makes a cool little light show , and in a group ritual some people seemed to enjoy that as the best part :D
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Just hold the stick or sage in the flame of your candle for a couple of seconds. How hard can it be. If you use loose white sage then one leaf is enough to fumigate your room. Placing loose pieces of anything in a bowl and then trying to light that is never going to work..

Maybe we need a tutorial on it :sneaky:
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I'll say it again. Moisture. Relative humidity. Moisture gradients. Water loves to get into absolutely everything.

Those silver packets the charcoal disks come in, I'm pretty sure that's mylar, or a cheap version of it. Better than plastic for keeping moisture out. Once that packet is open, that charcoal will soak up atmospheric water like a sponge which makes it a real PITA to keep it lit. Same with all your dried plant matter, sage etc.

Whenever I've played around with flint and steel, or ferrocerium and a striker, the dryness of the tinder has been a large factor in how easily it will catch a spark and sustain a useful ember.

Carefully dry your incense, sticks of wood, charcoal etc. Store it in an old jam jar, or something with a lid that forms a tight seal that will keep the moisture out.

Like I said, a jar with rice in the bottom of it .... hang on ... not cooked rice :D

Good point about moisture though ; I can use paper to light my indoor fire but it doesnt work well . If I first hold it above the flaming stove gas ring , steam comes out of it, the paper gets stiffer and burns bright and hot . Hold a sheet of newspaper in front of the fire and you can see moisture gassing off it .

I guess for some ... we are going to have to go down this path ;




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Good point about moisture though ; I can use paper to light my indoor fire but it doesnt work well . If I first hold it above the flaming stove gas ring , steam comes out of it, the paper gets stiffer and burns bright and hot . Hold a sheet of newspaper in front of the fire and you can see moisture gassing off it .
I wrapped some tinder, wood shavings etc in foil and put it in the oven for 15 minutes. When I unwrapped it, it was steaming. Soon as it cooled down I transferred it to sealed jars. Moisture is so omnipresent it's easy to not notice it.
 

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This has been an ongoing issue since I began doing this. Incense just will not light for me. I put it in an incense burner, light it with a lighter, and nothing. I put it on a piece of coal, and light the coal, and there's nothing. I get incense sticks, and they light up when I give an excess of fire. But the ashes dirty the altar mat. I use a bundle of sage, and it lights, but the more it blackens, the harder it is to light again.

I ordered some miniature pieces of wood online. They came today, but were too long. Basically, they were twice the height of my burner. I break a piece in half and lit them. They work, but the fire was too strong, and was really making smoke. So, I had to put it out with a mini extinguisher I keep in my room. My room is airing out right now.

This is very disheartening.
I wouldn’t take this as a spiritual rejection or a bad omen. From what you described, this sounds much more like a practical/fire-safety issue with the type of incense, the burner, airflow, and the material being burned.

Loose incense, resins, herbs, and woods do not behave the same way as incense sticks. Some resins will not “catch fire” directly; they need steady heat from properly lit charcoal or an electric incense heater. Some woods need very controlled heat, otherwise they flare up and produce too much smoke. Sage bundles also become harder to relight because the charred outer layer blocks the fresh material underneath.

A few suggestions:

Use a proper heatproof burner filled with sand, especially if you are working with charcoal. The sand stabilizes the charcoal and protects the burner.

Let the charcoal become fully hot first — usually glowing and partially gray/ashed over — before placing incense on it. If the coal is weak, the resin or powder may just sit there and do nothing.

For altar work, you could use a ceramic ash catcher, a small plate under the incense stick, or a burner with a wider tray so the ashes do not fall onto the altar cloth.

Avoid burning pieces of wood with an open flame indoors. That can become too intense very quickly, as you already experienced. For woods, an electric incense heater or controlled charcoal method is much safer.

Also, there is nothing wrong with switching to a safer format. Incense sticks, cones, Japanese-style low-smoke incense, or an electric heater are all valid. The spiritual value is in the offering, intention, purity, and consistency — not in struggling with fire until it becomes dangerous.

So I would pause, clean the space, air out the room, and simplify the method. Use something predictable and safe. A small stick of good-quality incense on a proper ash catcher is better than forcing a material that keeps creating stress, smoke, and risk.
 

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Pretty sure there is a moth meme for that somewhere. Or maybe mothman or something? Think it's something the tumblr kids are into.

Wild story. Fairly big moth I'm guessing? My general guideline for candle is have it set up on a metal tray. Place the tray on a surface that won't melt, crack or burn if the metal tray gets really hot. Keep your eye on it at all times. Obviously nothing hanging nearby like curtains or shrunken heads or anything like that.

No accounting for other humans and their clumsiness though(or moths). I have a free range pigeon as well and he sometimes reminds me of an enormous moth.

I don't really do incense or candles these days. I'm a stickler for fresh air. If I want incense there is a high church anglo-catholic church down the road, and they are more catholic than the pope.
I have cats. Except for maybe tea candles, mine are in jars or I put them in a lantern for safety (and if jar, they're usually wide ones or I put heat safe things around to stabilize them). But otherwise, exactly as you said.
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To the OP, if all else fails have you tried wax warmers?
 

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It upsets my allergies lol
I don't normally get hay fever but the birch tree next door must have put out a big cloud of pollen the other day because it was like I had a cold.

Not a huge user of incense either, but I burnt some pine resin today to clear some things. Nice and subtle, not overpowering. The gods of the boreal forests like it.
 

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I'm surprised nobody has suggested OP to get a humidor for keeping their incense materials inside. Traditionally for cigars, but you can use a humidor to regulate humidity for anything you want as long as it'll fit inside. Cigars MUST be kept in a humidor up until at most a couple days before you smoke them or else they'll either completely dry out and practically fall apart in your mouth, or they'll become almost damp and be very difficult to light and produce a lot of foul smoke because of the water content. I can't imagine incense and other burnable fragrances are much different in that regard.
 
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I'm surprised nobody has suggested OP to get a humidor for keeping their incense materials inside. Traditionally for cigars, but you can use a humidor to regulate humidity for anything you want as long as it'll fit inside. Cigars MUST be kept in a humidor up until at most a couple days before you smoke them or else they'll either completely dry out and practically fall apart in your mouth, or they'll become almost damp and be very difficult to light and produce a lot of foul smoke because of the water content. I can't imagine incense and other burnable fragrances are much different in that regard.
I've just never had a problem with incense before at all, much less to an extent that would require humidity control apparatuses. Like here in the PNW, the humidity just in my home can range from 60% in the winter to less than 20% in the summer and incense just has never posed a problem.
 

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I use a tongs to grasp the self-lighting charcoal disc, and hold it over the natural gas range burner. It is lit in less than one minute. Then it goes into a sand-filled brass censor, where it gets resin incense added to the top.
 

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I used to have a problem with charcoal for the incense burner. In Russia, most practitioners use church charcoal for censers. It's not very good quality. My Guru advised me to use charcoal for a hookah. Coconut is best. I also bought a special device for lighting hookah charcoal, which is a small electric stove with a metal strainer in which charcoal cubes are placed. Coal burns very well. Then, with special hookah tongs, I transfer the burning coal into a cast-iron censer filled with sand (a layer of sand at least an inch thick). I put incense or herbs on top of the charcoal. Everything is fine, no problem.
 

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In all neutrality, you cannot even ignite charcoal, nor can you make charcoal out of wood—so why do you practice magic?
 
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I used to have a problem with charcoal for the incense burner. In Russia, most practitioners use church charcoal for censers. It's not very good quality. My Guru advised me to use charcoal for a hookah. Coconut is best. I also bought a special device for lighting hookah charcoal, which is a small electric stove with a metal strainer in which charcoal cubes are placed. Coal burns very well. Then, with special hookah tongs, I transfer the burning coal into a cast-iron censer filled with sand (a layer of sand at least an inch thick). I put incense or herbs on top of the charcoal. Everything is fine, no problem.
I used to get self lighting charcoal discs 40mm from the international market, but the last 2 times I went they had the Not-Self-Lighting ones. Omg. I tried holding them over the gas stove. Nothing. I tried using the little torch lighter that I normally use to light the self lighting charcoal and when that had zero effect, I used a bernzomatic torch, the kind you can to solder copper pipes. Still wouldn’t light. I mean I literally opened the plastic and put the fire to it and it REFUSED to light. Here in Mexico you can buy self lighting charcoal discs that are freaking huge and they light basically with a match.

our long suffering peer here may benefit from a few things.

I’m not a Wiccan so I don’t have this obsession with “cauldrons” but I have aquired several cast iron ones over the years, including one that holds about 8 liters, it’s huge. I also bought a small one with a lid like a mini dutch oven, when I lived in a tinder box in the 🇺🇸 i was paranoid about immolation of mi casa, so I got several pieces of scrap ceramic tile and stacked them to set the hot kittle on top for insulation. If any kind of conflagration got a little bit too robust, the lid went on and the fyre was extinguished.

nearly all of my incense sticks are burned in a huge, heavy glass cup that I got second hand. Fill it with regular table salt and put your stick in there after you light it. Yeah, the ash has a tendency to want to migrate to the surrounding area, I suppose you could put it on a glass plate but I just factor it in to my cleaning routine. I think about what our ancestors would have been doing in a medieval hut, cave, or tent in Arabia, etc. to put it in perspective for my modern sensibilities. (“This is my specially consecrated magical sword and athame, it is never used except for magical rituals” vs “this sword that I carry every day and used to slay Wulfgar the Strong is what I’m going to use, and hand me that butcher knife we used to slaughter the chickens yesterday, I need to cut some herbs”).

A friend gave me a little sort of melting device, it uses a tea light and has a small brass bowl above it, i use it for oudh aka agar wood aka “aloes” And put a piece of aluminum foil on top if i want to use resin. The smell is much more subtle than if I burn it on charcoal and, obviously, it doesnt set off the smoke alarm like resin on charcoal.

for OP, I recommend using a small pair of tongs, you can actually make your own with a piece of wire from a metal clothes hanger, and use that to ignite your self lighting charcoal either over a candle or with a lighter. You will need to let it burn until it stops sparking and smoking before you set it in your burner, this can take several minutes. For gods sake don’t drop it, you might want to do the lighting over a sink or at least a metal pan. Once it stops smoking you can add your resin or herbs. For smoking effect you can dampen your dried herbs a little bit otherwise they tend to burn up very quickly and not make much smoke. A small mister bottle like for perfume with some distilled water works great 👍

as others have said, even a tiny granule of resin usually puts off more smoke than several sticks of incense, it’s easy to choke yourself out even with an open window. Mortar and pestle does a great job of reducing your resin to a reasonable size, even powdering it if you want.

i’m kind of mixed opinions about smudge sticks, I don’t have any evidence that they were historically used by American Indians until the late 20th century. They aren’t very practical to me at all, while charcoal discs are extremely practical and effective. I suspect that historically people just took coals from the fire and put them on a piece of shell, metal or pottery and then added their herbs and resins, whether it’s European, Asian, African or the different cultures in precolumbian americas. The Asians seem to be the pioneers of stick incense though I don’t know when they first started being used there.

don’t get discouraged, experiment with a few things and try to be safe
 
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