Seeking Recommendation I need a Evocation 101 guide

[Hund]

I know there's a lot of sources and every book has it's own thing to do it's thing, i tried few of them but generally i did not like them. my practices about summoning was just "winging it" for 8 years straight. Generally it worked, but i want to start from scratch and I want to make my own evocation technique about one spesific deity and her servants, i probably can write her names with some chalk or something and wing it too but i want to learn absolute basics and start from that.

I know it sound ridiculous but i rarely see the difference when summoning. I think i always invoked them. I run into this pretty often: whenever I ask an entity for something, the answer I get is usually something like, “Bring me down into the world.” It’s not always like that—sometimes they actually seem to “come down” on their own—but most of the time, that’s how it goes.

I'm not a native english speaker, and not a good speaker generally. if my writing is confusing i'm more than happy to elaborate, just ask.

 

[dzb10035]

I think the important part to understand is what guides have you already read? There are a number of different books on evocation as a subject. If you tell us what you have already read, then we can give you more tailored suggestions.

 

[Hund]

I think the important part to understand is what guides have you already read? There are a number of different books on evocation as a subject. If you tell us what you have already read, then we can give you more tailored suggestions.

I read koetting's books about Azazel, Kblan tragna, Ars Goethia, Ars Notoria and some random books that i find on telegram that i did not care their names.

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So my theoric knowledge is:
1. You should get a power source which is bigger or equal than your target, can be it's chant, sigils or something like that, do stuff to call upon that power.
2. call the spirit's names and ask
3. go with the flow

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My theoric knowledge is so garbage that it's a miracle i survived this long.
I use stuff that i acquired along the way to have some sort of control along the way.

 

[dzb10035]

Koetting's books are not amazing for learning the basics of evocation and the Ars Goetia is very complex for a beginner. Ars notoria is not even directly relevant for evocation.

2 book that will work great for you:

1. Summoning Spirits - Konstantinos

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- Jason Miller


These books start from the basics and will offer you practical steps to working with spirits. They are not complex and they should be accessible to a beginner. I don't know what language you speak, so the english gap might be a small issue, but google translate / AI can always help if needed. Use these 2 and you can get a good foundation. Evocation is a complex art and there are a lot of ways to do it. Just get your information from good sources, not from Telegram if you can help it. EA Koetting is not amazing when it comes to many things. I understand that Evoking Eternity is decent, but a lot of his work is not very well balanced for a beginner sometimes. But it is your choice, not mine.

 

[Hund]

I had some issues on another forum because I used AI to translate my posts, and people started suspecting that I was being AI. That’s why I’ve been trying not to use it.

I speak Turkish.

The technique I’m going to develop should be completely detached from Abrahamic traditions. I don’t want it to be anti-Abrahamic either, like the Qliphoth. Just straightforwardly pagan. No angels, no Sitra achra.

When I look at the reviews of Summoning Spirits, I see that people think it’s very anti-demon.

 

[dzb10035]

True, but there is a lot to be gained from looking at all types of sources. Ritual structures, theory, and ideas can be gained from all sources. If you feel that you don't want angel names or divine names, then that is fine. You can always avoid using these things while keeping the structures proposed by the book and using the theory.

You can try the Jason Miller one. He is usually pretty Pagan and varied, his approach is also very good with respect to spirits.

 

[Hund]

True, but there is a lot to be gained from looking at all types of sources. Ritual structures, theory, and ideas can be gained from all sources. If you feel that you don't want angel names or divine names, then that is fine. You can always avoid using these things while keeping the structures proposed by the book and using the theory.

You can try the Jason Miller one. He is usually pretty Pagan and varied, his approach is also very good with respect to spirits.

Yeah, this book is much more general, and it seems to give me a better idea of where to start with this. Thank you so much.

 

[dzb10035]

Yes of course. I hope you get a lot of good out of it.

 

[HoldAll]

Koetting's books are not amazing for learning the basics of evocation and the Ars Goetia is very complex for a beginner. Ars notoria is not even directly relevant for evocation.

2 book that will work great for you:

1. Summoning Spirits - Konstantinos

2.

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- Jason Miller

For completeness sake: the Jason Miller and the Konstantins (collection) books are also in the Library as PDF files.